PS3 General Discussion

And what does the fact that there is a 1.2gb difference in file size tell you? Nor does that disprove that there is data that has been put onto the DVD that's encoded in such a way that you can't rip it off or read it nearly as easilly as the rest of the data.
All three rips must be the complete game though, as they all work from hdd. So, it tells me that there is something in the japanese and PAL release that the US one doesn't have. As the games are pretty much the same except of minor differences though, I've no idea what it could be.

Regards
the Interceptor
 
All three rips must be the complete game though, as they all work from hdd. So, it tells me that there is something in the japanese and PAL release that the US one doesn't have. As the games are pretty much the same except of minor differences though, I've no idea what it could be.

Regards
the Interceptor
Hmmm, well the Japanese one is over 6GB. This complicates matters somewhat regarding the size of GT4 :lol:.
 
hello guys, i got a question. in 2 weeks my grandma is going to the USA and i am contemplating if i should get a Xbox360 or wait for the PS3? i have enough $$$ for either one, but if i do wait for the PS3, it will be a while,let's say spring next year and i'll probably end up spending that $$$ on something else. Is it going to be worth gettin the PS3 in the first 6 months of production or should i just get the 360?

thanx,
hafa d.
 
hello guys, i got a question. in 2 weeks my grandma is going to the USA and i am contemplating if i should get a Xbox360 or wait for the PS3? i have enough $$$ for either one, but if i do wait for the PS3, it will be a while,let's say spring next year and i'll probably end up spending that $$$ on something else. Is it going to be worth gettin the PS3 in the first 6 months of production or should i just get the 360?

thanx,
hafa d.
If you ask me, that depends on two things: 1) Which games do you want? If you are GT freak, then you probably don't want a Xbox. If you like Forza or PGR, etc. Xbox might be for you. 2)Do you want Blu-ray player? If you get PS3, you are paying extra for a Blu-ray player. You will want one eventually, but are you ready to buy one this year?(it is a good deal).
 
hello guys, i got a question. in 2 weeks my grandma is going to the USA and i am contemplating if i should get a Xbox360 or wait for the PS3? i have enough $$$ for either one, but if i do wait for the PS3, it will be a while,let's say spring next year and i'll probably end up spending that $$$ on something else. Is it going to be worth gettin the PS3 in the first 6 months of production or should i just get the 360?

thanx,
hafa d.

I'd wait, and buy neither until next summer/fall, when the 360 has played most of it's cards and there's a lot more games out for the PS3.

And like a6m5 said, what type of games do you play the most? Which games/series do you play? What do you plan to use the console for? It really depends on your answers to those questions.
 
hello guys, i got a question. in 2 weeks my grandma is going to the USA and i am contemplating if i should get a Xbox360 or wait for the PS3? i have enough $$$ for either one, but if i do wait for the PS3, it will be a while,let's say spring next year and i'll probably end up spending that $$$ on something else. Is it going to be worth gettin the PS3 in the first 6 months of production or should i just get the 360?

thanx,
hafa d.

já que vc está no GTP, talvez queira esperar o proximo GT... eu iria esperar. vou tentar comprar o meu em janeiro ou fevereiro no paraguai.

não esqueça que temos que esperar os consoles destravados... pelo menos é assim com 95% do pessoal. jogo original é meio sem chance...
 
If you ask me, that depends on two things: 1) Which games do you want? If you are GT freak, then you probably don't want a Xbox. If you like Forza or PGR, etc. Xbox might be for you. 2)Do you want Blu-ray player? If you get PS3, you are paying extra for a Blu-ray player. You will want one eventually, but are you ready to buy one this year?(it is a good deal).

Don't limit the blu-ray drive to just a blu-ray player. It shows benifits for gaming as well.
 
Backup software can be easily fooled if the manufacturer wishes to hide data.

That's the unhidden number I've shown. When you pop the disk into the DVD drive, it show 2.51GB.

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That's the unhidden number I've shown. When you pop the disk into the DVD drive, it show 2.51GB.
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That's great. When I pop Snatcher into my computer it says it is 108MB, when the game takes up 404.2MB on my HDD. So multiply that by about 4 for when it is actually put on the disc. (The numbers I came up with Yesterday for music compression were off.)
 
What are we talking about again?

Exactly. BTW, here's some REAL PS3 related material to talk about.

[Daily Online] Sony Talks PS3; Blu-ray Drives Announced
Posted by Jason Unger on Aug 29 2006 @ 10:08 AM
Keywords: Daily Online, Blu-ray, HD DVD, Gaming, Legal, TiVo

Blu-ray leads the news today, with new drives announced from LG and Plextor, Japanese launch plans and Sony America president discussing the PlayStation 3 (PS3).

But first, the DigiTimes is reporting that production of the blue laser diodes needed for Blu-ray and HD DVD drives is still falling short of demand, which will keep the format war dragging on.

Although several vendors, including Royal Philips Electronics, Hitachi-LG Data Storage (HLDS), Sony, Matsu****a Electric, Lite-On IT and BenQ, already announced BD or HD-DVD drives, only Pioneer and Plextor are currently able to maintain actual shipments, according to the sources. Toshiba may soon join them, with volume shipments planned to kick off in September, the sources added.

Utilizing BD drives in its own PS3 game consoles, Sony suspended shipments of blue laser diodes to other customers, the makers indicated, adding that only Nichia, Sharp and Sanyo continue shipping the diodes. Nichia, which currently holds 80% of the global blue laser diode supply, reported that its yield rate for blue laser diodes reached 30%, according to the makers. However, the actual output still falls behind the demand, the makers said.

Speaking of Plextor, the company has announced the PX-B900A Blu-ray Disc drive, a burner set to be released in October with a price of $999.99. LG has also announced their Blu-ray products -- a Blu-ray DVD player, writer and line of desktop PCs (via Engadget).

But history has shown that the format war isn't going to be won on the backs of the technology -- it's the content that will rule. In Japan, 75 Blu-ray movies will be released, including "The Da Vinci Code" and "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl," according to the Blu-ray group.

The discs are set to be available come Christmas-time, according to Reuters, but in Japan, Sony will only have Vaio computers and PS3s available to play the movies.

One last bit of Japanese news -- Microsoft Taiwan has reportedly said that the external HD DVD drive for the Xbox 360 will not be available in Asia because of supply issues, according to the DigiTimes.

CNet News.com has a Q&A with Sony America president Kaz Hirai, asking him about the PS3 launch plans and whether or not consumers will pay $599 for the system.

Hirai: The pricing that we announced for the PlayStation 3 is a price that ultimately offers fantastic value to the consumers. I think that we are offering a very good value for the consumers. We look at our products having a 10-year life cycle, which we've proven with the PlayStation.

Hirai confirms that production hasn't begun yet, but says that 2 million units will be shipped at launch. He also discussed the use of Blu-ray discs in the system, saying that storage is a big factor for both movies and games.

http://www.cepro.com/news/editorial/14890.html
 
We can't say Matsu shi ta :D



Edit: If ps3 has a 10 year cycle, no one really needs to buy it right away if they only see a price and not what it can do.

NOpe, they all have to buy it at launch cause if they're not. The PS3 will die. :sly:
 
WHen they say "10 year life cycle" they mean the amount of time in which the manufacturer will support the given hardware.

Meaning, Sony will continue to produce and suppor tthe PS3 and it's hardware for 10 years, not that a new console will not arrive within ten years.
 
Mr Deap is right on that one, if no one buys the PS3 at launch Sony won't carry on producing them in the millions and the PS3 will die. But theres only going to be 2 million PS3's initially so they shouldn't have any trouble shifting them.
 
No, and unless theirs an official release from Sony it's probably not true.
 
Has anyone heard the news they're downgrading the cpu by 50 hz to reduce production cost?


How would reducing the systems cpu clock speed by 50hz (crap all) reduce production costs?

Probably just a romour.
 
Target shipment of Sony PS3 may be halved
Yen-ting Chen, Taipei; Adam Hwang, DigiTimes.com [Wednesday 30 August 2006]

Sony's target shipment volume of four million PlayStation 3 (PS3) consoles by the end of this year is likely to be cut to two million units because volume production is not set yet, according to sources in Taiwan's game console manufacturing industry.

President and CEO Kaz Hirai of Sony Computer Entertainment America, recently said that Sony is on schedule to deliver two million PS3 consoles in November, another two million in December, and additional two million by March 31, 2007, the sources indicated. However, Sony's OEM makers in China and Japan are still preparing for volume production of the PS3 and there is a short supply of blue laser diodes, a key component of Blu-ray Disc (BD) pick-up heads, and cell processors, the sources pointed out, noting that the situation may halve the total expected shipment volume for November and December.

The Taipei branch of Sony Computer Entertainment Hong Kong declined to comment on the report.

http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20060830A7038.html
 
Kazunori Yamauchi on PS3
The Gran Turismo producer shares his vision for the future.
by Anoop Gantayat

August 30, 2006 - Sony's sudden rush of PlayStation 3 news continues today with a brand new website. The company has opened up a new concept site called PlayBeyond which promises to feature interviews with some of Japan's biggest game talent.

Things kicked off today with a 10 minute interview with Polyphony Digital's Kazunori Yamauchi. The man behind Gran Turismo shared his thoughts on the PlayStation 3 through 9 minute-long segments. We've summarized each segment here. If you don't understand Japanese, refer to this guide while watching.

SEGMENT 1: Yamauchi begins by talking about the changes that the PS3 brings to the gaming scene. First off, graphics. The PS1 and PS2 supported NTSC, but the PS3 makes the move to high definition standards. This means, basically, that the resolution goes up, but Yamauchi notes that as a developer he was surprised with the resolution jump, and he believes game players will also be surprised.

SEGMENT 2: Second, the PS3 brings physics to the scene. The PS2 and PS1 weren't capable of producing the physical world Polyphony wanted to create. With the PS3, they can, for the first time, have actual physical calculations, which contributes not only to the feel of driving, but also to the car's surrounding environment. Yamauchi mentions a few areas regarding the environment: grass on the ground, trees that are growing thick, and leaves blowing in the wind. And, most importantly, lots of people watching the race. You can do all these things without difficulty, and he believes other genres even outside of racers will benefit.

SEGMENT 3: Third, the network. Games until now have been closed -- you buy a game and play it, then buy another game and play it. Yamauchi believes that when most think of networks, they imagine cell phones and something like Internet Explorer. Sony is looking to do something different. The network that we see right now in the homes is just one aspect of networking, not the full thing. Yamauchi wants to make a new network world, something that anyone can understand.

SEGMENT 4: Yamauchi begins by pointing out that when driving, you need a wide view, and you need small details for viewing distant objects, something that requires high resolution. "At last, you can see what you want to see," he says of the PS3. Previous racers have faked it, allowing you to see only 20 or 30 meters. Now, you can see hundreds of meters before you. This will change the overall sense of play. Yamauchi considers it possible that high definition will be brought into homes not because of movies but because of games.

SEGMENT 5: Gran Turismo is a very open game -- it's not something in Yamauchi's head, but something that reflects changes in society, cars and car culture. With the PS3, you can do things like send out the latest car data. "I believe there will be something that changes every day," says Yamauchi. Gran Turismo will slowly change, or evolve, through the weeks and years.

SEGMENT 6: The first thing people think of when one mentions network-ready Gran Turismo is that you'll be able to race other players. That's certainly the case. However, the network is capable of more than that. For the next Gran Turismo, the game's developers, users and the car makers alike will be able to build up a community of car lovers. Yamauchi believes this community has millions of people throughout the world.

SEGMENT 7: PlayStation 3 isn't just a game revolution, but a television revolution. It answers, "What is shown on the television?". Yamauchi has an image of what we'll be doing with televisions in 10 years, and the revolution towards that beings this year.

SEGMENT 8: Games and movies are on equal ground now with the PlayStation 3. While it's tough for developers, they can no longer fall back on the excuse of "it's just a game." It's now required to make finer details, in addition to dealing with increasing data. Yamauchi says that while development is fun, it's also very difficult. Still, he wishes he'd had the PS3 10 years ago.

SEGMENT 9: Yamauchi is asked what the PlayStation means to him. Although making interesting games is his work, he always feels like changing the world. He believes that, as someone who wishes to change the world, the PS3 is a tool for causing a revolution.

There's enough vague commentary in this latest Yamauchi interview to make even Ken Kutaragi blush. Let's hope we get a look at Polyphony's vision for gaming's future not too long from now.

Source: IGN
 
Dont know if you guys have seen this yet, as it slipped through my net, its an In-Depth review of the retail version of PS3, hands on. I havent watched it yet, but Im downloading it now.

LINK
 
Dont know if you guys have seen this yet, as it slipped through my net, its an In-Depth review of the retail version of PS3, hands on. I havent watched it yet, but Im downloading it now.

LINK

Might be a vid I posted a few pages back, not sure.

speed_demon - You can buy as many as you want without pre-ordering, provided they are availble.
 
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