PS3 General Discussion

It all sounds quite nice. I'm sure I'll be very happy with my PS3 when I get it next year. To be honest the only thing you can point a gun at it for is the price, but considering it's approximately the same price as a Premium 360 with HD DVD add-on or nearly half the price of a BR player it's not so bad. It's just not a good price for a games console. But reading that the PS3 isn't just a games console.
Whether or not that's something a consumer wants is a different thing altogether. But this consumer is happy with what's been shown so far.

As for the controller, I usually get through a controller every 18 months or so anyway. I'm a cack-handed SOB sometimes!:dunce:
 
LaBounti
I already saw on another form that the ps3 battery on average should last from 3-6 years depending on wireless use.
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Link, please. And even still, if the PS3 is supposed to last 6 years (or possibly even 10 with the possibility of no disc drive on the PS4, which would make the PS3 the only way to play PS3 games), and the controller can easily poop out in second half of the lifetime of the PS3, I'm pretty sure many other people (including me) aren't just going to get by using a wired controller. I guess we'll just have to pick our poison down the line...
 
to me the biggest annoucment was the ability to download ps1 games and share with 5 other PS3´s...

wtf?

any comments? its awesome if its really what gamespot reported
 
Duċk;2458355
I'm pretty sure many other people (including me) aren't just going to get by using a wired controller. I guess we'll just have to pick our poison down the line...
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Yeah because without wireless we never would have made this far:indiff:

Its just a guess but a battery replacement system could be applied in the future. If Sony can replace a console disc drive they can replace a controller battery. But like tha... ..er JR said, if 8hrs wireless a day(consistant) for 2 years would kill it. meaning normal gaming and charging it would last more than 4 years. 5840hrs for 2 years. 30hr life between charges lets say 500 charges(like psp but has 4-5hrs of life) 15000hrs =5 hardcore PS3 gaming years.

I'm sure the Sixaxis doesnt need more juice as the psp and its battery still shows the same charge time remaining after almost 2 years.
 
Duck - Are you STILL not understanding what I' (and others) have explained more than once? THe PS3 does not HAVE a "10 year life cycle". You're not understanding Sony's words. Sony DOES NOT mean that the PS3 will be the ONLY console on the market for 10 years, from them. THEY DO NOT.

What they mean, however, is that, like the PS1, and the PS2, the PS3 will BE AROUND for a long time. When Sony say's a LIFE CYCLE, they mean the time in which they will CONTINUE to support that platform with accessories and continued production. THe PS1 was in production for TEN YEARS, and it's accessories are still being made and sold today in other countries. This will be the same for PS2, and PS3.

So, HOPEFULLY that clears some stuff up for you?
 
Jeremy Ricci
Duck - Are you STILL not understanding what I' (and others) have explained more than once? THe PS3 does not HAVE a "10 year life cycle". You're not understanding Sony's words. Sony DOES NOT mean that the PS3 will be the ONLY console on the market for 10 years, from them. THEY DO NOT.

What they mean, however, is that, like the PS1, and the PS2, the PS3 will BE AROUND for a long time. When Sony say's a LIFE CYCLE, they mean the time in which they will CONTINUE to support that platform with accessories and continued production. THe PS1 was in production for TEN YEARS, and it's accessories are still being made and sold today in other countries. This will be the same for PS2, and PS3.

So, HOPEFULLY that clears some stuff up for you?
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Reread my post.
Duċk;2458355
if the PS3 is supposed to last 6 years (or possibly even 10 with the possibility of no disc drive on the PS4, which would make the PS3 the only way to play PS3 games),
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Tell me, where did I mention that the PS4 will come out in 10 years? I said that the PS3 may last 10 years. And since there's a growing possibility that the PS4, which will probably come out 5-6 years from now, won't have a physical disc drive, and since if that's true, you probably won't be able to play PS3 games on your PS4, and so your PS3 will be used for several more years just to play your PS3 games.


EDIT: Fight Night Round 3 photo comparison.

Xbox 360

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PS3

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I seriously can't believe how big of an improvement...

EDIT2: In-depth details about what the XMB contains.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/740/740601p1.html
 
That's a good read at IGN. Not read it all yet but it says the PS3 does not upscale DVDs. I assume it means 720p upscaling as it should do 480p. However they say the 360 does upscale 720p? I didn't think so. I'll have to look later.
Anyway, all looking good so far.

Edit: I think there will be a lot of updates added to the PS3 over time. As far as I can see threre's plenty to play with at the moment.
 
But remember guys, even though right now PS3 will not upscale PS2 games to high def, a single firmware update from Sony will do it in the future.:dopey:
 
Duċk;2458210
When I saw the $50 PS3 controller, I just laughed. The Wii has a better motion system, rumble, and it's wireless. And it's $40.
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The Wiimote and chuk are $60, you need both to play.
 
LaBounti
360 does not upscale DVD's, the screen flashes down to 480p.
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Yeah, that's what I thought. That's naughty of IGN to say -
On a down note, SCE informed us that DVD upscaling was not part of the PS3 multimedia feature set. The Xbox 360 upscales DVDs, so it's surprising to see SCE go without the feature.
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Or at least mis-informed.
 
Guys:

ED. NOTE - IGN previously reported that SCE had confirmed an omission of upscaling features. We have since checked our interview notes and have found that the comment that led to this report was more vague than we understood at the time -- SCEA President Kaz Hirai commented that backwards-compatible games will "run in their original form", which does not specify exactly whether display adjustments do not fit the "original form." We apologize for the confusion, and will ask SCE as soon as possible for clarification. Please stop posting on message boards that "SONY SUX" for the time being.
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http://ps3.ign.com/articles/740/740601p5.html
 
LaBounti
360 does not upscale DVD's, the screen flashes down to 480p.
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Not entirely correct. It DOES upscale if you use the VGA cable. With the VGA cable, the 360 will upscale the video to the resolution you have it set to output in the dashboard. This was part of the "Spring Update" to the dashboard the 360 received this year. But yes, using the component cables, the most you will get is 480p.

CT
 
It's reasonable to assume the PS3 will receive an update allowing the same.
One thing I've not read officially; is there a VGA lead for the PS3?
 
slackbladder
It's reasonable to assume the PS3 will receive an update allowing the same.
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Totally possible. And, judging by how often, and how many times, they updated the PSP, I think we can be assured of multiple updates (of varying importance).
slackbladder
One thing I've not read officially; is there a VGA lead for the PS3?
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That I haven't heard either, but it would be nice. I have my 360 hooked to my HDTV by component. But I have 2 friends who use the VGA cables on PC monitors, and it looks great. Its a nice cheap way to play the games in HD without needing a new TV if you don't already have one.

CT
 
Well, the cables that come with the system doesnt upscale then:). I'd guess with VGA it would have to upscale. But who uses vga connectores on HDTVs for Xbox360? I can see for pc monitors but not for HDTV's yet until 1080p update comes out, but thats about $40 cable upgrade.

No enhancements for PS1/2. sux big time. maybe They will update the firmware to allow it. Or some genius will create a Liunx ps2 emulater seeing it has the Cell SDK included...
 
LaBounti
But who uses vga connectores on HDTVs for Xbox360?
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Not many, I wouldn't think. But, there are a decent ammount of sets out there that have VGA inputs. And, with all the devices we hook up to our sets these days, having an extra way to go HD without losing a component or HDMI input is nice.

CT
 
I have VGA for my 360, I just never watch DVD's on it! It gives me a few extra resolution options and lets me plug my PS2 into the component on my TV, which is nice.

Sony will replace controllers if/when the battery life ends - www.engadget.com
Now I normally don't go on engadgets word but still.. However, what do you do in the meantime without a controller?
 
Tenacious D
The Wiimote and chuk are $60, you need both to play.
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Ah, forgot about that. :ouch:

And KENJIusa, if you say "omg duck got pwned again", a genocide on a 3rd world country will start. Just beware of that.
slackbladder
Sony will replace controllers if/when the battery life ends - www.engadget.com
Now I normally don't go on engadgets word but still.. However, what do you do in the meantime without a controller?
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1. If that's true, then that's great news.

2. I suppose you just stay on GTP for a week until it comes back, or you can play your X360 (:D), or you could go to a retailer and trade it in for a new one if Sony sets up this program up so that you can do it instantly through a local retailer.
 
Duċk;2459081
Ah, forgot about that. :ouch:
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Well, to be honest, you weren't totally wrong. You don't NEED the nunchuck, per se. The Wiimote is $40, and if all you want to play is Wii Sports, WarioWare, Monkey Ball or other simple games like that, you don't really NEED the Nunchuck. So, depends on what games you are going to be playing really.

I was visiting my parents last weekend. They are getting a Wii almost entirely just for Monkey Ball and Wii Sports golf and tennis. They are buying the console and 3 other Wiimotes, but no other nunchucks. For simple games like that, which is what they are going to be using it for when having parties and what not, no extra nunchucks are needed. So, it isn't required for every game. But for some, yes, it will be obviously needed.

CT
 
IGN
Sony Reveals PS3 Pack-Ins, Pricing
Find out what's in the box and what you'll pay for games and gear.
by David Adams

October 19, 2006 - At this year's SCEA Gamer's Day, Sony not only talked about the power of the PlayStation 3, but finally iterated what gamers will find inside the box and announced software and peripheral pricing. For both editions of the new console, here's what Sony is packing in:

  • One Sixaxis controller (with a 20 meter wireless range and 30 hours of battery life on one charge.
  • According to Sony it's "ready to go out of the box.")
  • AC cord (no external power source or brick)
  • USB mini-cable
  • Ethernet cable
  • Multi-AV cable with composite connectors
The box we saw pictured -- for the 60 GB edition -- had a simple black and white design. It was fairly large, however, and includes a handle.

In addition to the box contents, Sony offered a first list of prices. First party software will sell for a suggested $59.99. Peripherals available at launch include the wireless Sixaxis controller for $49.99 and a memory card adapter for $14.99. A Blu-ray player remote will be available in December for $24.99.

As a treat, the first 500,000 PlayStation 3 units shipped will include the Blu-ray edition of Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby. The bonus puts the Blu-ray edition of the Will Ferrell film in customers' hands ahead of its retail release on December 12.

According to SCE president Kaz Hirai, the PlayStation 3 is in full production and coming off the line "literally as we speak."
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So, it looks like the rumor that the PS3 will come with an HDMI cable is wrong...

Also, what was the price of 1st-party X360 titles? $50? Or $60?
 
Duċk;2459168
So, it looks like the rumor that the PS3 will come with an HDMI cable is wrong...
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Of course, if it did come with it, then all the critics wthout HDMI displays who complain about having to buy things they don't need would find another reason to whine. ;)

For those that do have HDMI displays... check the internet, you can get excellent HDMI cable for less than a $1 per foot. Don't get fooled by "high-end" HDMI cable... with very rare exceptions, there are NO differences in performance between these cables. I've been involved in several cable shootouts, including one last year involving no less than a dozen different HDMI and DVI cables ranging in price from $5 to $500.

The only important thing to consider is the length needed, and for runs longer than 3m I would suggest using a 24AWG cable, and possibly even 22AWG cable for 15m+ runs. However, for short runs, even 28AWG HDMI cable performed equally as well as 22AWG cable in the tests I was involved in.
 
Jeremy Ricci
^^ Most are $50, but I think they're starting to release them at $60 IIRC.
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Ok, thanks.
Digital-Nitrate
Of course, if it did come with it, then all the critics wthout HDMI displays who complain about having to buy things they don't need would find another reason to whine. ;)
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There's a difference. It'd be like buying a car, that you originally thought would just come with 18" rims, leather seats, and a sunroof, and they throw in an XM radio with a free year subscription for free. You can't complain about that.
 
IGN
Sony Uncertain of PS3 Shipment Targets
One exec admits the company is having "production issues."
by David Adams

October 20, 2006 - Even as it slashed its annual profit forecast this week, predicting a drop of 35 percent, the company officially stood by its intention to ship six million PlayStation 3 units worldwide by March. At launch, the company has said it expects to ship 400,000 PS3s in North America and 100,000 in Japan.


Despite official confidence, however, at least one Sony executive is suggesting that the company may not meet its targets.

Speaking to Bloomberg, SCEA co-chair Jack Tretton admitted that the launch figures, which some see as already relatively low, are not a given. "The honest answer is it's more of a target," he said. "Clearly we've had production issues."

Sony launches the PlayStation 3 in North America on November 17. With PS3s in short supply, competing systems may be more tantalizing. Nintendo will debut its Wii console days after the PS3 ships, while Microsoft's Xbox 360 enters the holidays with a year's head start.
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...Thoughts?
 
I'm not buying at launch, because of a lack of games that I really want to play exclusive to that system. So, I can't say that I'm too hurt by this. But really, its just been a constant stream of bad news for Sony with this. They just can't get much going good for them.

The PS3 is coming in very short numbers when that is VERY MUCH not what they need, they are embroiled in the whole "exploding batteries" debacle, and now their own stand alone Blu-Ray player has been delayed, AGAIN, as well. They are in DIRE need of some good press, and sadly, I don't think the PS3 by itself is going to generate enough of it.

CT
 
Duċk;2459313
...Thoughts?
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A Sony rep told me over a week ago, they guarantee 250,000 will make it to NA launch, but they don't know if they'll reach the 400,000 quota mark they announced at TGS.

Like I said, I'll try, with minimal effort, to get a PS3 on launch day. If not, no big deal. I don't really have a game I would love to get on launch day. Even my choice to get COD3 is starting ween, thanks to all those annoying yells heard in the latest demo at Gametrailers. Meh :crazy: .
 
Circle T
I'm not buying at launch, because of a lack of games that I really want to play exclusive to that system. So, I can't say that I'm too hurt by this. But really, its just been a constant stream of bad news for Sony with this. They just can't get much going good for them.

The PS3 is coming in very short numbers when that is VERY MUCH not what they need, they are embroiled in the whole "exploding batteries" debacle, and now their own stand alone Blu-Ray player has been delayed, AGAIN, as well. They are in DIRE need of some good press, and sadly, I don't think the PS3 by itself is going to generate enough of it.

CT
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I think once the PS3 is out, and as long as it lives up to expectations, a fair amount of pressure will be off Sony's back. But it'll take a month or two before things start swinging. Even the 360 had bad news at the beginning with reports of consoles going wrong. Unfortunately the same thing may hit the PS3 too. After all, nothing works 100% and with demand high and stock low there will be complaints of broken consoles hitting the web, left, right and centre.
 

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