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AT FPV F6 Typhoon Review

I can picture Jeremy Clarkson driving this one screaming POWERRRRRRR the whole time and leaving the camera car behind in a trail of tire smoke. It's without a doubt a tail-out style street-chomper. Taking it through the tight twisties laying on the gas, you can amuse yourself for hours with sideways antics. And it goes without saying that it's fast in a straight line - the weak-of-stomach ought to bring an airsick bag.

So the car's got plenty of power and with proper throttle modulation it corners relatively well, but I do have a few complaints. Even with very long gearing, wheelspin cuts in REALLY easily, even in the power dropoff zone approaching 6K RPM, and if you're not careful and extend a drift for a milisecond too long, it'll either snap back on you or spin. Switch to a manual gearbox and drive it in the richest part of the band, and forget about it - you better have your affairs in order. I noticed you edited your diff settings over the night to weaken them - they might ought to have stayed in place. To take an extended sweeper requires very precise partial lift, since even at medium-high speed, too much throttle will unhook you. Too MUCH lift though, and the noseheavy sedan will understeer. Turn in, especially under braking, is difficult as well, unless you really chuck it in hard and break the back loose. My criticism is biased though - I'm not a huge fan of cars that rely on power oversteer to stay on the line. I like to have it available if I really get on it, but I don't want the car to REQUIRE it.

If the car were mine, here's what I'd do. For starters (and I know it looks awful on this car), a wing. This would obviously sort out a LOT of issues. A softer front suspension - though the car is obviously got some heft to suspend up front, I think with additional ride height, a softer front would make it more obedient. A SLIGHTLY softer rear suspension - It's not bad as is, but I think very slightly relaxing it might also help keep it on the straight and narrow. Relaxed stabilizers, particularly in the front - The back isn't awful, but having it so stiff up front, in my experience, increases the likelihood and severity of snap-back with the tail out. More initial torque in the diff - this would help dramatically to keep the car on the line. Combine that with a bit more camber at all four courners, some mild positive toe and weaker front brakes to counteract the difficulty at turn-in under late braking, and I think you'd see your lap-times drop. The car wouldn't be nearly as much fun to drive casually, but it would really mean business on the track.
 
Thankyou CLS for your review and also racerx510 for your seemingly overlooked praise of the RUF. The FPV was designed with exactly that in mind, a fun but incredibly quick and balanced street car, without wing and on Sport tyres. Wheelspin was therefore bound to come into it, but maybe it's the way I use the throttle and brakes, as I thought this car was incredibly good for controlling wheelspin. The brakes were once again meant to be controllable, you can brake into those high speed corners and not stray off line, but they may be worth a look in. As for camber and toe, the Falcons are currently fairly praised in Australia for their balance, and I found that adding toe and/or camber ruined this balance and resulted in more tail out action from the car trying to turn too much. As I've said before, increasing the diff settings on initial torque never really helps much with wheelspin, just makes the car that much harder to turn. You bring up some good points, points that I've tried many a times on testing them to see if I could make improvements, but in the end they hinder the cars performance. A carefully modulated throttle through the corners and you will never crash this car. Thanks for the in-depth review again. I'll look into the brakes issue for sure.
 
Based on what I've seen tuning wheelspin-prone cars, I have disagree with you on the initial torque - it controls how strongly the diff is applied, and in the game, that means it functions essentially as a multiplier for your acceleration diff figure. Not a whole-number multiplier for sure, but it DOES seem to increase how early and how strongly the diff cuts in (at least from my experience). And though it might not cure the wheelspin, it would at least reduce the severity of the sideways action. Your car though, your call. All that said, it's a blast to bomb around in! 👍
 
Allright, I'll try doing something with the diff and maybe some small rear toe setting to counterbalance. I just tried tinkering with the brakes, and making it more un-balanced than it is hurts turn in, strage huh? Being balanced is certainly what this car loves, I'm now off to test diff and toe, I know increased camber won't work, and the current suspension "stiffness" set is what gives it the ability to turn.👍

Edit: I never changed the diff settings by edit, I added the picture ;)

Edit 2: Alright, after just doing some settings tests I want you to try these settings and tell me whether it's better or worse. I found it resulted in more wheelspin and more understeer on the whole.
Toe: 0/-2
Initial Torque: 60 (just to prove a point)
 
60 is WAY too strong - that results in a totally locked differential. The negative rear toe is what's causing the extra wheelspin - it encourages rear-end step out, thereby more wheelspin. I gotta run for now, but I'll play around with it some later tonight.
 
Exactly, the rear toe is what does it, but with an initial torque higher than 5 the car understeers too much, so it's a question of will you take a moment's pause before stepping on the throttle at full bore just to save wheelspin and still have a remarkably quick driving style. Anyway, I'm open to trying to solve this problem after you have a play with it. Bye for now :)
 
AT Aston Martin DBR9

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Parts to Buy:

Semi-racing exhaust
RC Brakes
Brake balance controller
NA Tune stage 3
Port polish heads
Engine balancing
Race Computer chip
FC Suspension
FC Gearbox
RC Flywheel
Triple clutch
FC LSD
Carbon driveshaft
R3 Tyres
Weight Reduction stage 3
Rigidity increase
A wing
Oil change

Settings:

Brake Balance: 3/5

Suspension
Spring Rate: 10.5/9.5
Ride height: 86/86
Damper bound: 3/3
Damper rebound: 6/6
Camber: 3.0/2.0
Toe: 0/0
Stabilser: 4/5

Gear ratios: First set auto the each individual gear
Auto: 25
1st: 2.766
2nd: 1.763
3rd: 1.308
4th: 1.021
5th: 0.822
6th: 0.678
Final: 3.800

LSD
Initial Torque: 5
Acceleration: 40
Deceleration: 20

Downforce: 30/30

Driving aids as always 0

Lap record at GVS: 1.42.451

Driving Description: This car is absolutely brilliant, you will never have to worry about losing traction in second gear onwards and the car will always bend at your will. At times the brakes may seem a little quirky, so just brake a little earlier until you get used to the car. My theme continues with this car of making race cars out of road cars that don't have race variants in the game, inspired by the class winning Aston at the Le Mans 24hr last year, the first one to beat the Corvettes in a long time, and when you drive it, you can see why it's a Corvette fighter in this level of specifications.
 
You like Astons do you? They're pretty cool, it just annoys me when Jeremy Clarkson always does his best to promote the British cars and incriminate every thing else. So I ignore his opinions. This car is fun to drive I think, If your idea of fun is pushing unbelievable limits :sly:
 
You like Astons Holdens do you? They're pretty cool, it just annoys me when Jeremy Clarkson ND 4 Holden Spd always does his best to promote the British cars Holdens and incriminate every thing else. So I ignore his opinions. This car is fun to drive I think, If your idea of fun is pushing unbelievable limits :sly:



Just kidding... couldn't resist :sly: Planning to take the Aston for a spin tomorrow afternoon!
 
Hahaha...im the same as him, holden this, holden that. Love the handy work though

Do you have a Holden pool cue, holden cups, nothing but Holden shirts, and some Holden pants, Holden hats, a Holden Ute and your only coversation starter sounds something like this- "So........what cars do you like, I like Holdens." :lol: That's me in a nutshell, but I'm certainly not ignorant to other cars. There's only a select few cars in the world I really truly dislike.
Back on topic though, looking forward to a review from you CLS. In some ways the car was probably underdone so I truly am open to suggestions for improvements. But as you can tell from lap times, it's already very quick.
Update here as well, I've set a new lap record with my Monaro Race Car, a 1.43.402 at GVS, going to update the post.
 
Do you have a Holden pool cue, holden cups, nothing but Holden shirts, and some Holden pants, Holden hats, a Holden Ute and your only coversation starter sounds something like this- "So........what cars do you like, I like Holdens."

thats me exactly down to the bone....i even have holden clock, commodore VT and light up holden glass hologram + pics on my walls of holden merchaindise. My front door is a Peter Brock momerial to the King of the Mountain.
 
thats me exactly down to the bone....i even have holden clock, commodore VT and light up holden glass hologram + pics on my walls of holden merchaindise. My front door is a Peter Brock momerial to the King of the Mountain.

Oh yes, I have a Holden clock too, you have a VT? Mine's a VR...ute obviously.:sly: I can't say that I have a Holden Hologram, but I do have many Holden pics on my bedroom wall, as well as a signed picture and framed of Nathan Pretty, my fave raceing driver. He's the guy who drove the Nations Cup Monaro, a Commodore in the Fujitsu V8s and endurance driver with HRT. I also get very "emotional" watching V8 Supercars.:sly: RIP Peter Brock. I think my Aston Martin is gaining some interest too, people are already talking about reviews which is really good. All reviews are welcome guys, positive or negative.👍
 
funny.. when I hear Bathurst, I recall success of certain japanese cars such as RX-7 and GT-R.. the latter ended up being bit too good competition for V8's. ;) :lol: nothing wrong with V8's, as long as they aren't OHV's.
 
Yes back in the old days Brocky had his Toranas and killed all Japanese Imports and all imports from around the world on Bathurst.
 
Spent a fair amount of time testing the Typhoon and impressions are good; I'll edit this with a full review at some point tomorow + a video

Pyrelli
 
Ford's been smart enough to go OHC. Holden... Not so much.

:lol:

Funny you and Leo should mention that actually, because it's commonly written in auto mags of late that the OHV 6.0L V8 used by Holden/Chevy/Pontiac is a much more well rounded engine with a largely fatter and stronger power and torque curves engine which is also more fuel efficient than the peaky OHC V8 that Ford use. If the engine is good then it's a good engine, regardless of layout.:sly:

Edit: Wow, I just realised I have 4 promised reviews, which is really good for AT. Any reviews are appreciated guys.👍
 
AT FPV F6 Typhoon '04 Review

I have to admit that I've never really paid the Australian garages much attention, which they do deserve, and this car was a nice surprise. In stock form the car had neat handling and was good in all aspects other than its weak engine (not that it was particularly underpowered but its chasis could obviously take much more!).

It was nice to see that the tuning appeared to have some kind of budget and I wasn't going to have to race for more credits 👍. So after applying all the parts and settings, I then took the car to GVS where all the testing was done.

First impressions were good and overall I felt that the car kept much of its stock characteristics with the addition of a much needed power hike. As with all cars of this nature, second gear was all too capable of tearing up the rear tyres if not used with caution; but I won't hold it against this car as that is mainly down to the driver to sort out.

Turning into the long right hander before the straight, the car proved to be well balanced and had good traction. This was a great characteristic as it allowed the car to gain some good speed which is always valuable at GVS. With the stock car in mind, the braking was always responsive and felt hard biting. However in this tune, the brakes were still responsive but felt slightly numb, but in all fairness they never provoked any understeer like the standard braking and in use they were always predictable.

Once into the complex of corners before the sharp hairpin, the car had good turn in as well as a good ability to hold lines. The car was stable, and even with badly timed braking, the car proved to be hard to unbalance. Much like the first corner, braking into the hairpin was predicatable and on the exit care was needed when using second gear; to its credit there was an even chance of being able to use full throttle coming out of the corner but it was a risk I decided not to take on most occassions.

By the way the car handled early on in the lap I did expect more from the setup in the next few corners, however it wasn't all bad news. I'm sure you have your own reasons for it, but I felt the lack of any camber hindered the cars progress through the flowing corners. Whilst turn in and ability to change direction quicky was generally good, once in the corners it wasn't exactly confidence inspiring and had a feel of understeer.

Thankfully, as soon as the faster and longer corners came into view, the cars handling was comparable to that seen in the earlier parts of the lap.

Overall the car has improvements over the stock characteristics, however, perhaps the car is just a little under prepared for the hike in power. In general turn in was good and the braking was responsive and would never be the cause of any problems. One trait of the setup that I particularly like was how the car had kept its ability to hold lines even under some rather harsh/clumsy inputs; meaning that the car has good potential for some fast lap times. The gearing was well matched for GVS, and in my view, probably made controlling the cars power much easier. My only complaints are that perhaps the car could be made to make better use of its tyres during the cornering.

Congratulations on choosing such a great car (both handling and looks) and on creating a well balanced setup!

[Video replay] AT FPV F6 Typhoon '04 @ GVS - 1'55.839 [YouTube]

Pyrelli

Edit: Video now up on YouTube with the relevant links included above
 
Hey AT, maybe to attract some more customers you guys should make the thread a little flashier, just with a picture of the car in the post with the settings maybe. Pictures get people attention:dopey:

Just my .02
Vantage review in near future.​
 
Pyrelli...thanks for the review...NH4S will look it to it in dept.
mustangGT90210...we have just started putting pictures through in the last week or so.
RJ...give up RRV mate before they toss you out...:lol: jokes mate...your welcome here, day or night we have a bed.
 
Hey... RRV is Vince, *Certain person*, and I. :P

But yeah, I've got no problem helping someone out (even if they're a competitor).

As you can remember, I'm sure, N4HS... You as well, Dimplz. AT holds one of my tunes.

"How do we sleep while the beds are burning?!?"
 
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