Sound Off! Drifting or no drifting?
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Had a look at some D1GP stuff on web, at least its a bit more sophisticated than a meet in a supermarket carpark 
But I found this in the Judging section under the category Presentation
"The most universal component of this category is smoke. The more tire smoke generated by a vehicle while drifting the more points a driver will score. This category previously included the driver sticking hands/legs out the window or opening the door in a turn, but D1 now requires windows to be rolled up and prohibits door opening, demonstrating a shift in emphasis to more technical aspects of driving. "
Hands/legs out the window!
not so far off the truth Greyout
But I found this in the Judging section under the category Presentation
"The most universal component of this category is smoke. The more tire smoke generated by a vehicle while drifting the more points a driver will score. This category previously included the driver sticking hands/legs out the window or opening the door in a turn, but D1 now requires windows to be rolled up and prohibits door opening, demonstrating a shift in emphasis to more technical aspects of driving. "
Hands/legs out the window!
not so far off the truth Greyout
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Hiya! 
I would like Drifting to be added into the game. I have never seen anyone drift before with my own eyes, but to only see them on the net! It's a very interesting type of competition that I really like to enjoy watching. I support for drifting to be in GT4, but maybe not as something you MUST do to get 100% completion because not everyone like drifting and also becuz how some of you say its not "Racing." And I do agree too. Drifting is not a competition about getting the best time on a lap or more. It's about style! It could be a race if you wanna talk about "Drift racing" but I dont see how that can really be judged on style and lap times at the same time. Drifting should be judged on the way it always have.
I would like Drifting to be added into the game. I have never seen anyone drift before with my own eyes, but to only see them on the net!
It's a very interesting type of competition that I really like to enjoy watching. I support for drifting to be in GT4, but maybe not as something you MUST do to get 100% completion because not everyone like drifting and also becuz how some of you say its not "Racing." And I do agree too. Drifting is not a competition about getting the best time on a lap or more. It's about style! It could be a race if you wanna talk about "Drift racing" but I dont see how that can really be judged on style and lap times at the same time. Drifting should be judged on the way it always have. 
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- JMarine25
WEBSITES OF MENTION:
http://www.d1gp.com
http://www.d1gp.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=6
As I was on special assignement, I decided I'd provide the websites above for the drifting inexperienced. These are some links related to the D1 Grand Prix. They are from the US D1GP official website. It provides history and such of drifting including some of the past events and upcoming ones. A lot of people said it would be something big, even motorcycle man Dave Despain said it was fun. So be sure to check these sites out because when drifting comes to GT4, at least you'll have some perspective as to what this drifting deal is all about. If I find any more on competitions themselves and what scores are given, I'll update in the future.
And the poll has been LONG closed, so people want drifting in GT4 because they love to.
That is all, take care.
http://www.d1gp.com
http://www.d1gp.com/index.asp?PageAction=Custom&ID=6
As I was on special assignement, I decided I'd provide the websites above for the drifting inexperienced. These are some links related to the D1 Grand Prix. They are from the US D1GP official website. It provides history and such of drifting including some of the past events and upcoming ones. A lot of people said it would be something big, even motorcycle man Dave Despain said it was fun. So be sure to check these sites out because when drifting comes to GT4, at least you'll have some perspective as to what this drifting deal is all about. If I find any more on competitions themselves and what scores are given, I'll update in the future.
And the poll has been LONG closed, so people want drifting in GT4 because they love to.
That is all, take care.
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I have four things to say to all of the negative aspects.
1.) The real DRIVING simulator. Since when is this game just about racing. It is about motoring.
2.) People said that imports were a fad. That Civics, Eclipses and all manner of frontdrive grocery getters would be gone from the scene within a couple of years. Here we are, more than a decade later, with more slammed Civics than Japan itself! This sort of "fad" sticks.
3.) Advertising for the GTO. One of the few things they say in the commercials about it is that it is a rear drive (as is flys around a street corner sideways). This time, American makers do not want to get left in the "smoke" of the Japaneses makers. Drift is here for good.
4.) An ESPN anchor interviews a drag racer "Was that some of this new sport drifting that we saw out there". Drift has been accepted by the race community at large, as it has been around (in a non-competitive way) for a LONG time.
I kind of doubt that drift will be a prerequisite to getting 100% sim mode completion. Just do not try to argue that it should not be incorperated because it is not racing. This game is about driving, not just race driving.
1.) The real DRIVING simulator. Since when is this game just about racing. It is about motoring.
2.) People said that imports were a fad. That Civics, Eclipses and all manner of frontdrive grocery getters would be gone from the scene within a couple of years. Here we are, more than a decade later, with more slammed Civics than Japan itself! This sort of "fad" sticks.
3.) Advertising for the GTO. One of the few things they say in the commercials about it is that it is a rear drive (as is flys around a street corner sideways). This time, American makers do not want to get left in the "smoke" of the Japaneses makers. Drift is here for good.
4.) An ESPN anchor interviews a drag racer "Was that some of this new sport drifting that we saw out there". Drift has been accepted by the race community at large, as it has been around (in a non-competitive way) for a LONG time.
I kind of doubt that drift will be a prerequisite to getting 100% sim mode completion. Just do not try to argue that it should not be incorperated because it is not racing. This game is about driving, not just race driving.
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- JMarine25
GeorgeyMoney put together some good points. I know that some road racing fans will stereotype oval racing because of monotonous "turn left" motorsport. But let me tell you. EVERY motorsport will have stereotypes. I hate all the b*tching about all the tricked-out Japanese cars going sideways and looking good doing it. Well hell, some of the stuff I think is crap is loved by some Americans. Some of the stuff I love is crap by some Americans. And as far as drifting goes, you're not going to lose friends or respect because you sling around a car sideways. You're not going to lose your "true American" status by getting into seeing an Altezza or RX-7 drift on track. This is simply trying out new things. If you love to do that, then drifting is can't miss. I LOVED drifting the RX-7 in Arcade Mode around tracks like Tokyo R246 and SSR11. I've even did that to a Panoz Esperante GT1, for God's sake! Thank you, Don Panoz!
Go ahead. Give drifting a try. I see nothing wrong with drifting. Think of it as rally racing, only that you're not off-road and you don't normally have a 4WD car. My buddy McLaren'sAngel made a post on this page kind of reinforcing what I've mentioned. And that is all until next time. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll continue watching this rerun of "Fifth Gear."
Go ahead. Give drifting a try. I see nothing wrong with drifting. Think of it as rally racing, only that you're not off-road and you don't normally have a 4WD car. My buddy McLaren'sAngel made a post on this page kind of reinforcing what I've mentioned. And that is all until next time. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll continue watching this rerun of "Fifth Gear."
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It's driving in a racing context, stop bringing that up.
Drifting will be necessary for 100% and I doubt they're about to ruin the image of drifting that they're trying to bring to the masses of unexposed gamers with a terrible drift mode - it'll be on par with everything else PD makes.
Drifting will be necessary for 100% and I doubt they're about to ruin the image of drifting that they're trying to bring to the masses of unexposed gamers with a terrible drift mode - it'll be on par with everything else PD makes.
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i guess its all in how you view the game
personally, i have no intention of getting 100%, i'm buying the game to cruise around in my favorite cars, check out some less-known cars, compare overall drivability, etc, etc. in GT3 i only race to get enough money to buy my next car, i will happily cruisa around a track at low speeds just to get the feeling of how the car handles at a lower speed.
IMO, its a Driving simulator that just happens to have a racing game embedded in it
and don't gimmie any of that "your not hardcore unless you get 100%" crap, i play games for fun, not to acheive some goal that some developer "thinks" i should aim for, thats not fun, its monotonous
personally, i have no intention of getting 100%, i'm buying the game to cruise around in my favorite cars, check out some less-known cars, compare overall drivability, etc, etc. in GT3 i only race to get enough money to buy my next car, i will happily cruisa around a track at low speeds just to get the feeling of how the car handles at a lower speed.
IMO, its a Driving simulator that just happens to have a racing game embedded in it
and don't gimmie any of that "your not hardcore unless you get 100%" crap, i play games for fun, not to acheive some goal that some developer "thinks" i should aim for, thats not fun, its monotonous
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I know you know that I was trying to identify drift as a legitimate part of the game. I was not trying to discredit the fact that this game is about racing. I just hate to see people saying that it should not be included because it is not about making good times. (However, it is about going fast at a very steep angle.) That is not a fair argument and I think that everyone knows that. Apples and oranges. These are two entirely different motorsports, to compare one to the other is just silly.
The only thing that I think matters is GT4 being a fun game. Will an extra icon for drift make the game less fun for time attack Nazis? No.
Any other points that we have not heard? A unique post about drift being in GT4? Please, share.
The only thing that I think matters is GT4 being a fun game. Will an extra icon for drift make the game less fun for time attack Nazis? No.
Any other points that we have not heard? A unique post about drift being in GT4? Please, share.
Eagle
You didnt see Gt4 Prologue Pal Bonus Disc, didnt You? Even there one guy or maybe even mr. K.(Im not sure in 100% if it was Kazunori) has said that ppl say, that gt is about racing, that its a racing simulator, but he thinks that it is a driving simulator.
And I think driving is:
- circuit racing,
- street driving,
- rally driving,
- drifting,
- etc.
If your car moves and if you control it, you're ure driving, simple. You're drifting, you're controling it, you're driving. And complaining about this, that drifting will be in is sick, i could complain about F1 racing, Le Mans or Yaris comp, because i dont like it, but im not complaining..
ps. To get 100% you have to be good in everything, so in drifting too
Just my 2 cents..
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- SolidFro
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Dude, rear wheel drive has always been included with the GTO option since 1964. Looks like Japan got left in the dust.georgeymoney
The 'drift' mode in GT4 will most likely be similar to a license test. To see if you can kick the rear out and make it around the corner the fastest, not some sort of 'competition' like D1 or whatever it's called.
Until we see proof of a drifting mode in GT4, besides the phrase 'drift mode' on a Power Point presentation, I wouldn't hold my breath for a drifting mode in GT4.
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Way to invite all the drift fans to repeatedly post about how KY said it was going to be in somewhere or another.
I know the definition of driving and I know the various types of motorsport incorporated in GT, but saying we should have something in simply because it's the real driving simulator doesn't make sense - right from the name we're not just talking plain old driving. Like I've said, there is no "Drive your kids to the soccer game" Cup or anything. There's a tonne of things that fall under your incredibly general definition of 'driving' that aren't included yet, and some of them with good reason. So stick to real reasons like the fact it's a legitimate, internationally recognised form of motorsports, with competitive, professional, sanctioned competitions and a large fan following, and you'll do a lot better.
I know the definition of driving and I know the various types of motorsport incorporated in GT, but saying we should have something in simply because it's the real driving simulator doesn't make sense - right from the name we're not just talking plain old driving. Like I've said, there is no "Drive your kids to the soccer game" Cup or anything. There's a tonne of things that fall under your incredibly general definition of 'driving' that aren't included yet, and some of them with good reason. So stick to real reasons like the fact it's a legitimate, internationally recognised form of motorsports, with competitive, professional, sanctioned competitions and a large fan following, and you'll do a lot better.
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Firstly Viper Zero, the fact that the GTO was a rear drive in 1964 does not mean that the American auto makers beat Japan in anyway (though they have). And of course the second point is that my post was about current marketing. They are making a point of the GTO being a rear drive. Would that ordinarily be a selling point? Not a point worth that much attention! Did you not read the "...(as it flys around a street corner sideways)." part of my post? The point was that American makers want to get involved in this new sport.
See, if you want to say **** like that Viper, refer to good points like Eagle's. See, Eagle made a good point there, and I agree with it. Had you mentioned the fallacy in my argument, you might have gotten somewhere in the conversation.
See, if you want to say **** like that Viper, refer to good points like Eagle's. See, Eagle made a good point there, and I agree with it. Had you mentioned the fallacy in my argument, you might have gotten somewhere in the conversation.
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I didnt like drifting at first, because i was a noob with cars.... 
.....now im almost a pro especially on GTseries *cough* 
Anyway, i really love drifting, cus its nothing that you will learn to handle in an hours or so. You really need practise a lot... even the worlds best drifters makes quite a lot of misstakes...Its also the power that you feeling, and feeling that you drifting at the edge to loose control..
tip: Watch the "drift bible" you will learn a lot how to drift, really good... created by Bestmotoring buy it or " dow*lo*ad " it
.....now im almost a pro especially on GTseries *cough* Anyway, i really love drifting, cus its nothing that you will learn to handle in an hours or so. You really need practise a lot... even the worlds best drifters makes quite a lot of misstakes...Its also the power that you feeling, and feeling that you drifting at the edge to loose control..
tip: Watch the "drift bible" you will learn a lot how to drift, really good... created by Bestmotoring buy it or " dow*lo*ad " it
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I think it should be in. It would be fun. and as far as NFSU goes that was no display of drifting. And if it is in GT4 i think we should get some D1 licensed cars.
I would love to see drift in GT4!! I'm a complete n00b but i would like to learn. Having a drift license would be a good way to teach peolple that drift isn't just some silly car sliding but a real "sport" with alot of technique involved. i wouldn't mind if it was needed for completion or not, but it is a racing technique so no more of this "it's slow, it's not racing" whinney bull****. Thank you.
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Cyrix is a booby head!
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JohnBM01
How many have you had? Tsuchiya is the Drift King.
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for 99% of corners, grip is the fastest, but the really really tight ones that force you to drop to 1st or 2nd can be done faster with a well planned and well executed drift (that means no initiald D style 4 wheel drifting, a mere loss of traction in the rear for an 1/8 of a second is all it takes to swing the car around into a better exit line)
drifting has a place in racing, drifting has a place in driving... drifting has a place in GT4
drifting has a place in racing, drifting has a place in driving... drifting has a place in GT4
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incubusnb
I'm converted now. Some of my times round the track in db.granturismo.de are faster on sports tyres because the back end slides a bit more alowing the nose to point in the right direction quicker than if you steered it round.
Sometimes it is faster to drift 👍
