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So I read that two people were shot at the gun show I was going to go to yesterday. Crazy.
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Yeah, I read that too. Accidental discharge, from what I was told.
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Loaded weapons are banned from these events. I'm surprised the seller could be so careless.
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Apparently it was being held by a 68 year old man when it went off. The gun was being sold by a pawn shop while on consignment.
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Accidental discharges comes down to stupidity...and you cannot outlaw stupidity nor minimize it through 'training'. Case in point; it was a while ago, but a cop had a loaded gun resting on his back seat in his civilian car...take a guess what else was in the back seat.
If you answered his kid, you guessed correctly. If you connected the dots and figured out that said cop was shot by his child, who was in a car seat, you're smarter than the cop.
Darwin never sleeps.
That's why you always assume a gun is loaded unless it is disassembled. Likewise, it's why you never point a gun at anyone...even in a gun shop after you've checked it out 100%. Only point a gun at things you want to kill...
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- jswilli1 / GTP_jswilli1 (GT5 only)
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My dad finally got himself a pistol to compliment his C&C license. He got himself a Ruger LCP:
Tiny little thing, and it's so thin I hardly noticed it in his pocket as he was standing there. Makes it difficult to pull the slide back. Sub-compacts like this are definitely awkward to hold but I guess you get used to it with practice. I've been considering getting one for a year or so now, but shooting isn't high on my list of interests. There are so many other things that cost $400 that I want and I just can't decide!
I was actually looking at this pistol before buying my XD40, here in NM they sell for about $325. When I took my CCW the instructor was selling these little jems. You don't really need a holster just slide it in your pocket. My instructor called it his "Pee Pee" gun, because he travels alot and when he goes into a rest area he just puts in his pocket. You can slide your hand in your pocket, pull out the pistol and conceal it in your palm if need be.
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- a6m5zero
I recently heard that some cop in the Northwest accidentally shot himself while trying to get the shotgun out of his cruiser. I believe he died.
We could never have enough wake-up calls. Once you get comfortable around firearms, you should watch it.
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- Crash852
Question: How hard is it to change the caliber of a handgun? Is it even possible? Say for example, assuming that said handgun was available from the manufacture in 9mm, .357, .40 and .45 variants, is it possible to just swap the chamber, barrel, magazine and breech to accommodate the a different caliber from what cam with the gun originally?
Brett
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It depends on the design of the weapon. Some AR-15s are just a barrel swap away from shooting different rounds. SIG Sauer's P226 chambered for .40 S&W can have the barrel swapped and fire the .357 SIG cartridge. SIG Sauer also makes the modular P250 that can swap barrel and slide to switch between 9mm, .357 SIG, and .40 S&W; the .45 ACP version of the P250 is not near as modular because of the increased size of the .45 ACP round.
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I believe you can swap the barrels on Glock, Springfield chambered in .40 to a 9mm. I have seen the barrels for ~$139. I thought is was a great idea at first but If I have a .40 why would I want to downsize to a 9mm when the ammo is about the same price? The only advantage to going down to a 9mm is a few more in the magazine?
It really depends on the gun. With some, it's easy. With others.. not so much.
I did find out something interesting the other day.. a friend of mine said you could swap out cylinders on a .45LC revolver to accept .45ACP rounds, which are cheaper. That's an easy swap (takes all of a few seconds on my Ruger), and you don't have to change the barrel. A quick Google search just now seems to show they're hard to come by for my gun, so I probably won't bother.
I did find out something interesting the other day.. a friend of mine said you could swap out cylinders on a .45LC revolver to accept .45ACP rounds, which are cheaper. That's an easy swap (takes all of a few seconds on my Ruger), and you don't have to change the barrel. A quick Google search just now seems to show they're hard to come by for my gun, so I probably won't bother.
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- a6m5zero
Yeah, sounds like they are up to the application.
My coworker recently sold a 10mm Glock out of estate sale, only to find a .40 S&W kit that came with a barrel & a trigger later. We weren't sure if the trigger swap was required, but it was part of this kit anyways.
I heard that there's a kit to convert my G17 to a .22LR shooter, but for what I imagine I'd be paying for that kit, I'd rather just by another .22LR pistol for another couple hundred bucks.
P.S. Not gun, but got 'shooting' related merchandise in the mail today.
Last time I went shooting, as you guys saw in the pic, we ended up plowing the snow every step we took. My jeans were soaked up to my ankles. Thanks to my boots, I didn't have to feel the cold.
We've also ended up shooting in the rain before, too. I'm not really an outdoors type, so only pants I had for shooting were jeans? I decided to start looking around for a "shooting pants". Lots of pockets, and had to be weather resistant.
On survival shows I enjoy watching, they've mentioned that you don't want cotton. I couldn't find any wool pants I'd want, so I started looking around for tactical cargo pants.
I ended up settling on 5.11 brand Tactlite Pro cargo pants in black. I think it's 65% polyester 35% cotton, but treated with teflon for protection from moisture & stains. When I looked around google shopping, they went for around $40 + shipping. Police Express Supply came up with I think $28($35-ish w/shipping) or something like that, I decided to just order it. Hell of a discount.
I don't know anything about tactical pants, but quality seems to be really good. Fit is excellent. Not at all tight, certainly not baggy. Just perfect. Well thought out pockets, and their placement. Couple of pockets doubles as cell phone pockets, or for clips. Very nice. I recommend them.
5.11 Taclite Pro
My coworker recently sold a 10mm Glock out of estate sale, only to find a .40 S&W kit that came with a barrel & a trigger later. We weren't sure if the trigger swap was required, but it was part of this kit anyways.
I heard that there's a kit to convert my G17 to a .22LR shooter, but for what I imagine I'd be paying for that kit, I'd rather just by another .22LR pistol for another couple hundred bucks.
P.S. Not gun, but got 'shooting' related merchandise in the mail today.
Last time I went shooting, as you guys saw in the pic, we ended up plowing the snow every step we took. My jeans were soaked up to my ankles. Thanks to my boots, I didn't have to feel the cold.
We've also ended up shooting in the rain before, too. I'm not really an outdoors type, so only pants I had for shooting were jeans? I decided to start looking around for a "shooting pants". Lots of pockets, and had to be weather resistant. On survival shows I enjoy watching, they've mentioned that you don't want cotton. I couldn't find any wool pants I'd want, so I started looking around for tactical cargo pants.
I ended up settling on 5.11 brand Tactlite Pro cargo pants in black. I think it's 65% polyester 35% cotton, but treated with teflon for protection from moisture & stains. When I looked around google shopping, they went for around $40 + shipping. Police Express Supply came up with I think $28($35-ish w/shipping) or something like that, I decided to just order it. Hell of a discount.
I don't know anything about tactical pants, but quality seems to be really good. Fit is excellent. Not at all tight, certainly not baggy. Just perfect. Well thought out pockets, and their placement. Couple of pockets doubles as cell phone pockets, or for clips. Very nice. I recommend them.
5.11 Taclite Pro
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The Kel-Tec seems a bit iffy to me. It seems like a tacti-cool shotgun that may or may not function in a real tactical situation.
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- ForzaTifosi79
The one advantage to going with a conversion kit is you're always firing the same gun. More firing time with the gun = better knowledge and comfort. The disadvantage is having to swap parts whenever you want to fire a certain ammo, plus it probably wouldn't be something you'd want to do at the range so you'll have to shoot whatever the gun is set up for. Looks like $250-300 for a conversion, and you can get a fairly nice Ruger .22 for that so it's a toss-up there. I paid like $330 for my Ruger, which is stainless. The blued versions are under $300.
Brett
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I have not watched this video from Nutnfancy yet, but I did watch his three videos on the Kel-Tec RFB. If I recall correctly, the RFB did not have a single issue in the videos. Two of Kel-Tec's PMR-30s were also tested with the RFB and both had multiple failures ejecting rounds and chambering rounds; but as the videos stated, one of the PMR-30s was fresh out of the box and the other had only had a dozen rounds (some small number) through it.
EDIT: I have not watched the fourth video in the RFB series just yet. I am also going to go back and make sure I watched Part 2 and 3 also; I know I for sure watched Part 1.
It probably depends on the weapon on how easy the swap is.
The .22LR conversion kit for Sig's P226 involves swapping the slide, barrel assembly, and magazine. So for the P226, the change from 9mm to .22LR is just a matter of field striping the weapon, which can be done very quickly.
Skip to around the 20 second mark. The first 20 seconds are just pictures of the weapon.
With a bit of practice, you could do it in twice this time.
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I have not watched any of his videos on the RFB. Still its based on the FAL so it has to be pretty reliable already.
In the video they seemed to have a rough time with the KSG.
In the video they seemed to have a rough time with the KSG.
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- ForzaTifosi79
Yeah, most conversions are just barrel and slide swaps and new mags. Still, even if it is easy and quick I wouldn't want to go field stripping it every trip to the range and I for sure wouldn't do it out in the wilderness. I'd want the comfort of a building and a table to make sure I don't misplace anything. That's just me though.
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The only real thing you can shoot here in the U.K are bolt-action rifles and shotguns (both requiring licenses and valid reasons for ownership).
Pretty sure that unless you join the Armed Forces or have some other exception you'll find it very difficult to shoot pistols or other rifle types.
Quick trip to U.S.A or Southern Asia in order?
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Here's one for A6. I have no idea what they're saying.
Brett
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I watched Nunfancy's KSG video and they do struggle with the weapon. If you noticed, they agreed that extensive training with the weapon would be needed to better manage the problems they were having.
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