But don't forget, he claims in an earlier post that went back and golded Suzuka legit after he already glitched it.
If it was that easy for you to gold after you glitch, then why did you glitch?![]()
I totally agree!
Why does GTP encourage glitching is beyond my comprehension.
I golded Vettel without glitching (used the Suzuka glitch but got gold legit too after I golded Nurburgring).
Community is already sad - I mean, people willing to delete their game data and waste 1h just because of 1 car is funny proof how ****ed up this community is.
Same goes for Vettel, xp glitch and trading.
I don't encourage but it's something I or anyone can't fight with. The only people who can fight with this are the GTP staff members but they don't, so that's why we have all of the things I've mentioned above.
In GTA - offline cheating doesn't affect others.
In GT5 it does, you can get Platinum and brag even though you didn't deserve it.
Platinum's worthless now, I didn't get Platinum just for bragging, I got Platinum because I love this game.
Yes, initially I used Suzuka glitch, hell, if it wasn't discovered I wouldn't have touched the Vettel Challenge.
Thank you Suzuka glitch, for bringing me back to Vettel and forcing me to get all golds using sixaxis.
Afterwards (after Nurburgring) I tried Suzuka legit - gold in 2h.
I've gotten good with Vettel, all because of one glitch.
But what the f...now? You can glitch Nurburgring too? Unfair, just unfair to the people who got it legit.
But hey, X2010 Prototype was always worthless.
LOL, LOL, LOL.
Wow, **** this now.
I spend 6 days killing myself doing that ****ing challenge and now ALL 3 ARE GLITCHABLE?
LOL?
Now even people who couldn't gold Monza will have all gold, wow.
It's not a problem, it's just...some people (aka me and many more peeps) spent really hard time getting those challenges done without glitching.
And now people can get them done without any skill whatsoever, and added to that, GTPlanet totally approves glitching.
Golding S.Vettel on a pad was a huge achievement and now, (almost) everyone can say the same.
In total, I spent 6 days on S.Vettel and roughly 4000km.
But I guess those people who glitched for Vettel will get stuck on challenges like IC-3, A-8, Grand Tour Eiger Nordwand, AMG Begineer Sector 4 and some more, because you can't glitch there, can you?
at that glitch.
You can't compare B licence test with the hardest challenge in the game, you just can't.
The only people who support glitching are the ones who glitch themselves.
- Vettel challenge isn't impossible with a pad, so please shut up with "I don't have a wheel" excuses
- You can't compare a time consuming trophy (Car Collector) with a skill related trophies (Platinum and Gold Standard), you're really stupid if you compare those two
- I understand that many people will do this just for a car (X2010 Prototype) but there are many people who will do it for Platinum and then brag about having S.Vettel done legit
If you glitch it - admit you're glitching because you lack skill to complete it so you resort to those desperate means, don't make ten different excuses every hour.
"Vettel doesn't even do gold times" - Vettel does very slow laps on all 3 tracks. He does bronze times.
The point of the challenge was/is to beat him/to catch up with him.
"Go easy on the insults, we're just having a debate here" - Well, I'm trying to go as easy as I possibly can but people who talk nonsense really provoke me into saying things which are innapropriate, appologies.
In the end, I don't care - do as you like, just don't expect respect/virtual pat on the back (all you who glitch for Platinum).
tALEz, well done man, well done.
What a speech.
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PS1 wasn't connected to the internet, was it?
PS1 didn't have trophies, did it?
GameShark, push button codes & so on, were ok in that era since you didn't affect anyone by your actions.
I've said - glitch, I don't care (why should I) but if you had glitched, please, leave your ego at the doorstep and don't try to make any excuses.
Platinum is meant for people who have skill to complete what the game has asked. If you can't complete a challenge that means you don't have the skill required and you don't deserve the Platinum trophy.
Simple as that.
You must be one of those glitchers who have convinced themselves that they actually deserve Platinum.
I know a little bit of psychology and I can say that the quoted guy suffers from a bad case of narcissistic personality disorder.
Elitism maybe?
It exists on almost every game.
Simply plat is 1337 and you can have a sig like this *look down @ my sig* on a forum with 190.000 members, j/kbut as I've said - some people will convince themselves that they really do deserve plat even tho they glicthed for it, that makes me go "grrrr" (not really).
I never denied using Suzuka glitch, after all - it brought me back to the challenge.
After Suzuka I did Monza and after Monza I did Nurburgring - legit since you couldn't glitch on those 2 maps back then.
When I did Monza and Nurburgring I realised that it's not impossible at all, infact it's very doable so I did Suzuka after I did Nurburgring.
I have the replays saved and will be doing the challenge on other account too.
Good ammount of jealousy there I see.
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I said, I never denied using it.
The problem is (for those who can't see) - people who can't even get silver legit (which is very easy, on all 3 tracks) can now go around with gold and attack people who got it legitemetely.
People even glitch on Monza, you should get shot.
I have the replays of all 3 tracks saved on my PS3. I can't upload since I can't record.
I could send the replays (upload them on GTP) but why should I go that far to prove a point to glitchers?
Fact of the matter is - I can beat the challenge while you/glitchers can't so you resort to glitching, since it's your only way of getting this challenge done...or you can do this:
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'sup?
I'll be accepting offers after PD repairs the glitch. đź‘Ť
I haven't touched Vettel since I bronzed it (in early February), I saw the Suzuka glitch and I did it.
I never played Vettel since I was one of those people who cried "I don't have a wheel, it's impossible without" etc.
Suzuka glitch got me back on Vettel, sort of - so I tried Monza legit. Got gold in 30 minutes, "this isn't hard at all, it's perfectly doable" I thought.
5 days later I golded Nurburgring too, after I golded Nurburgring I've re-done the Suzuka - gold in about 2 hours.
Yes, I thought of glitching the challenge at first - but I have given up on glitching and resorted to doing it fair and square, so don't put me in the same category with you since I actually beat the challenge farily.
I've given splits, tips, settings etc to help people and this is how people act towards me? Sad.
I haven't touched Vettel since I bronzed it (in early February), I saw the Suzuka glitch and I did it.
I never played Vettel since I was one of those people who cried "I don't have a wheel, it's impossible without" etc.
Suzuka glitch got me back on Vettel, sort of - so I tried Monza legit. Got gold in 30 minutes, "this isn't hard at all, it's perfectly doable" I thought.
5 days later I golded Nurburgring too, after I golded Nurburgring I've re-done the Suzuka - gold in about 2 hours.
Yes, I thought of glitching the challenge at first - but I have given up on glitching and resorted to doing it fair and square, so don't put me in the same category with you since I actually beat the challenge farily.
I've given splits, tips, settings etc to help people and this is how people act towards me? Sad.
Bro..noone is berating u for giving out tips to help others. That's very admirable of you. Noone is giving you agro for doing them "legit". Also noone is telling you how to play your game. What people like me find amusing is that you have raved and ranted in this thread spewing out vile about glitching and how glitchers are cheats etc. Only for it to come to light that you have actually done the same thing you have been giving others agro about.
Platinum is meant for people who have skill to complete what the game has asked. If you can't complete a challenge that means you don't have the skill required and you don't deserve the Platinum trophy.
Simple as that.
You must be one of those glitchers who have convinced themselves that they actually deserve Platinum.
I know a little bit of psychology and I can say that the quoted guy suffers from a bad case of narcissistic personality disorder.
Sorry I'm still not understanding here.Because I have 2 other accounts, prepared them for platinum.
Glitching Monza is a real challenge. No joke. We should deserve a "GlitcherKing" trophy for it.![]()
Wow seriously? I've to say I strongly disagree with your ingenious example here.You don't have to, but it's imo not very clever to blame the glitchers for using "the easy way" when it's clearly PD's fault.
If you leave your car unlocked over the night then don't blame the thieves for stealing your car audio system.![]()
I'm sorry I can't speak for himself, I'm not him!Exactly, we can only guess. And that brings me to another question.
Why should anyone who have golded the Vettel Challenges legitim (like he stated) creating a thread like this & asking "indirectly" how to glitch?
Anyways..fellow "glitchers", let's put this to bed now. Each to their own.
Exactly. It's getting pathetic.
And we have better things to do. F.e. glitching the 24h NĂĽrburgring endurance race before the 1.11 patch (30/Aug).
Happy glitching, guys.đź‘Ť
I said this.Actually it DOES somewhat reflect on the person's mentality, morale, discipline - however you want to put it.
(Exorcet) ...reflects on the mentality of someone. Actually, it might do the latter - someone who glitches rather than moan about people glitching probably has a better sense of priorities; at least I feel that way.
That's not even remotely the issue here. The stated question does not matter.If something is very tough, it's always better to cheat your way through?
What do these things have to do with glitching VC? Nothing. How can you glitch inventing the lightbulb, realistically?- Thomas Edison failed 10,000 times before succeeding. Should he have screwed the light bulb and opt for the matches/lighter instead?
- J.K. Rowling (author of Harry Potter series) was rejected by twelve different publishers and was told to "go get a day job". Should she have given up and worked at PizzaHut instead? Should she have slept with someone to get her book published?
Sure these aren't video games, but do they share a similar concept? I can give you plenty more examples.
Error 1 - There is no proper wayWhen the going gets tough, the tough gets going.
But no, it's 'crazy' to do it the long-proper way? It's more common sense to find glitches?
You're not very good at reading people. You also probably did not use common sense when writing the above quote. If I don't like the game, why am I playing and enjoying it? Comments like the one you just made have been made often. They never fail to make the person stating them seem less clever than they think they are. No insult meant, it's just the truth. I mean ask yourself, does what you say even make sense? Someone approving of cheating means that someone hates the game?Forgive me if I'm wrong, but seems like you (and for sure alot others) really hate the game. Why are you still playing it? What did you get the X1 prototype for?
It would mean that the mods would be policing how people should play their games, which is insane. True cheating - which is clearly not well understood here - is inherently wrong. Those do get shut down. Glitching is not cheating or inherently harmful. It is completely legitimate - exactly as legitimate as doing the VC according to its rules. Closing threads on glitching is proof as biased behavior and lack of acceptance of differing opinions.Sorry I'm not understanding this. Care to explain?
And what about mods locking 'non-cheat' threads, but allowing multiple 'cheat' threads instead?
I've not tried the glitch, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of this statement (although Monza is by far the easiest part of the VC), but wouldn't anyone attempting to glitch do so in hopes that it is easier than following the rules?Glitching Monza is a real challenge. No joke. We should deserve a "GlitcherKing" trophy for it.![]()
You really can't "blame" PD, unless they did it intentionally. Mistakes are made. The glitches may be one such a mistake. It's a glitcher's choice to glitch or not.You don't have to, but it's imo not very clever to blame the glitchers for using "the easy way" when it's clearly PD's fault.
If you leave your car unlocked over the night then don't blame the thieves for stealing your car audio system.![]()
This is a good point. People who did the VC with a controller can't really prove it anyone. So they are in the same position they always were in.Exactly, we can only guess. And that brings me to another question.
Ah, but when you glitch, you don't have that enormous sense of accomplishment when you actually beat Vettel, like I finally did 2 days ago. FINALLY.
You dont beat Vettel, because Vettel dont did the times for Gold!
Ah, but when you glitch, you don't have that enormous sense of accomplishment when you actually beat Vettel, like I finally did 2 days ago. FINALLY.
Sorry you have a different definition of cheating. The dictionary shows me this:That's not even remotely the issue here. The stated question does not matter.
-Some people just want the car and don't care about the challenge
-It isn't even cheating (unless it's part of a competition, aka you challenge someone to be the first out of the two of you to beat the VC, etc)
-Even if the answer to your question is "no", it does not mean that it's always bad to "cheat". Glitching the VC has no effect on anyone.
Not saying they have anything to do with glitching VC. I did mention they're not video games.What do these things have to do with glitching VC? Nothing. How can you glitch inventing the lightbulb, realistically?
But consider this. If Edison discovered a phone that let him call the future and discover safe, reliable, energy efficient lightbulbs - and he did not use it and instead tried to invent the lightbulb himself, he would be an absolute moron.
If J.K. found a magic button that would get her book published, that would have been the best solution. It didn't exist for her, so she did what she had to do.
Fortunately for GT5 players, the magic phone and magic button do exist. They have no counterpart in real life, and this kind of voids your whole comparison.
So doing it without glitch is not a proper way? Okay, we have to disagree here.Error 1 - There is no proper way
Error 2 - The tough did get going. They put their minds to work and found the quickest way to their goal. They should be congratulated on their work and creativity.
Like I said I may be wrong, I mentioned you 'seem' and included other people as well.You're not very good at reading people. You also probably did not use common sense when writing the above quote. If I don't like the game, why am I playing and enjoying it? Comments like the one you just made have been made often. They never fail to make the person stating them seem less clever than they think they are. No insult meant, it's just the truth. I mean ask yourself, does what you say even make sense? Someone approving of cheating means that someone hates the game?
It's part of the ridiculous "you like driving so anything related to cars should make you happy/ if you don't like all forms of car interaction, you hate cars period" argument. It's sickening how illogical it is.
Let me pose you a question - since you love grinding away at the VC for hours, do you also enjoy getting stuck in a traffic jam for hours? They're both driving right? Think of it as an endurance race. No saves too, you're stuck in 0-5 mph bumper to bumper traffic for a good nonstop 5 hours straight. For someone who loves GT5, this must be a positive experience correct?
Or will you choose to be logical and admit that one can dislike parts without disliking the whole?
And you want to know why I got the X1? To drive and race it, since the game is about driving/racing and I like to drive/race. Especially the racing part. What else would I do with it? Put it on my mantle and gloat about? Drive it around in circles online because it's exclusive and do nothing with it because no one else has one? Well, doesn't that sound fun.
And this makes sense why? The level system is non sense. The "skills" required to earn about 99% of the cars in game include grinding and skipping days via license tests. One's A-Spec level is a meaningless number. A-Spec level 40 is no more deserving of an X1 than a level 0.
If you want to drive it, you shouldn't be forced to earn it. If you want to earn it, go ahead.
To be honest, I don't think you even need to consider the competition to find that GT is outdated in a lot of ways. The GT1 racing transmission is better than GT5. On a number of things, they've got backwards.
How long does it take to figure out a proper aerodynamics model where downforce causes drag?
How about brake temperature?
Is a tuneable ECU too far beyond imagination?
The graphics and physics have continually improved at least, but everything else has pretty much stagnated. And of the things that have consistently improved, I think that one has been given way too much attention (graphics).
Yes. Attack the problem not the symptoms.
Though if PD remains stubborn, the suggestion in the first post is a good idea for getting around the pointless credit limit.
Duping works better though.
People race each other, and they can't even get up to highways speed limits. Anything that moves can be raced.
There is no option in game for driving 20 hp cars on the road, even though that's the only place they were ever meant to go.
It wouldn't have been too difficult for PD to find some mountain roads to model instead of race tracks for us to cruise on with our GT convertibles like Astons and Mercedes at highway speeds through AI traffic.
They didn't do this though. They made a racing game instead.
It was in GT5P until people forced PD to remove it. I agree with the anti rubberbanders. There are better ways to make the AI better. My problems with it was the lack of consistency. I don't mind the AI having an advantage. They need one, but magic catch up is a bit silly.
I do not understand this mentality. Why is making money so important? Playing the game just to increase credits makes no sense at all. You should play the game race.
So no, Seasonals have no impact on A-Spec. The only way that Seasonals would make A-Spec redundant would be if every A-Spec event was a Seasonal.
Why do you need an incentive? Shouldn't the incentive be the enjoyment of driving, and not the increase of a % completion counter?
GT5 was by far the most tedious and time intensive when it comes to getting cars. The La Festa seasonal is the first thing that approaches GT2's Speed 12 grinding.
That's your fault. You can't complain about using the FGT to easy win when no one forced you to use the FGT. It's better without restrictions because it allows the largest amount of people to be satisfied.
Suggested restrictions are required though, since it's almost impossible to make the AI challenging.
I blame PD. They need a difficulty level. "They want to please casuals" is no excuse. They need qualification so that higher difficulty races are possible to win. They also need more laps because 3 lap racing is a joke.
This isn't a universal fact though. I could care less how rare something is. As a matter of fact, I prefer less rarity, so that you could actually race [against] these things.
I do respect peoples' desire for exclusivity, but it's clear that GT and perhaps any game can't try to compromise the issue. Separate modes are needed for separate interests. If the fanbase realizes this, and pushes this instead of arguing for only their desired arrangement for the game, it might become realistic that PD disposes of their outdated game design and pleases all parties.
Agreed
Modes where the player creates the experience are generally superior.
My idea for future GT is to do away with Arcade, put GT Mode on the side, and make Simulation Mode the main feature. No credits, no trophies, no points or score. Just the player, they player's 1000+ cars, and the ability to make any combination of tracks, AI cars, and online/split screen player cars.
As for current arcade mode, I don't like how it selects cars. Also, online is completely superior.
They are fun, but they're all horribly modeled. Some of them don't even have front downforce yet GT5 treats them like modern GT1 race cars.
Why is that bad? Serious question. There isn't really any negative consequence to that. While on the other hand, disallowing such a switch simply reduces the realism for the game. You can fit any engine into anything. Somethings just take more work.
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I'm sick of credits. And all of you are probably sick of me saying that. But I'm sick of credits. Why are you going to force someone to grind some boring race 5 billion times just to have a nice car? If it's for "game balance", that should be up to the player. That's how it is right now. Anyone can start the game with the X1, just borrow it from someone. Veyron powered Minis aren't going to be very threatening.
But of course, in the unlikely event that PD comes to their senses and creates a game mode where driving comes first, then they can do whatever they want with GT Mode.
That's one of two things:
PD wasting time on something that doesn't need fixing.
PD wasting time fixing something because of bunch of people complain about it even though it doesn't really matter.
Quite honestly no one should care. Not PD, and not the people who don't glitch. I don't think it's fair to blame glitchers for other peoples' irrational behavior.
Who wouldn't? GT5 is severely lacking in content. How you play doesn't change that fact.
Of course it would take much longer to play the game as it was in 1.0 and without glitching, but it would also take a long time to play the game if you drove for 5 seconds every day. That's what PD did. They put out a game with almost nothing in it and then put a level system on it to make it look like it's full of things to do. The XP system deserves to be glitched.
I don't really get it either. The Platinum is a meaningless arbitrary achievement, so I don't get why you'd want it without following its rules. But to each their own. Also I didn't know that N24 hr didn't count toward game completion. It makes me even more confused. Either way, it's not something I'll have to deal with. If I ever decided that I wanted to do N24, I'd do it online.
You're clearly missing the point here.It would mean that the mods would be policing how people should play their games, which is insane. True cheating - which is clearly not well understood here - is inherently wrong. Those do get shut down. Glitching is not cheating or inherently harmful. It is completely legitimate - exactly as legitimate as doing the VC according to its rules. Closing threads on glitching is proof as biased behavior and lack of acceptance of differing opinions.
The multiple thread thing doesn't hold much water. There are many repeated threads. GTP is big, and there are only so many moderators. To ask for 100% flawless performance from them is too much.
That's pretty much the definition of cheating. The same definition I use.Sorry you have a different definition of cheating. The dictionary shows me this:
- Act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, esp. in a game or examination
- Deceive or trick
But that's the thing. You're not cheating anyone. You can't cheat the game. It's not a person. Cheating requires a victim.Sure you're not being dishonest to anyone, unfair to anyone or tricking anyone. You're just doing it to the game, you're cheating the game.
What's the advantage in that? Single player can't be cheated. Online has car restrictions.You gained an advantage, in your case getting the X1.
They're called cheat codes because misnomers exist.There's a reason what ppl call them (some even quoted me a couple of pages ago) cheat codes in those console/PC games. People using cheat codes aren't affecting anyone too right.
Again, the word cheat is not being used properly.Most people even admitted openly that they already cheated by glitching VC. Are you that conceited to think otherwise.
I do agree with the bold. The examples you presented are unrelated to anything else in this thread. Edison could not glitch the lightbulb. Edison also did not refrain from taking the easy way out. Any scientist will always look for the easiest way to do something. It might not seem that way, since a lot of things scientists do seem complex, but it's really the only logical way to do something. The glitches did as Edison did. They were presented a hardship and found a solution.Not saying they have anything to do with glitching VC. I did mention they're not video games.
Just saying they share a similar concept. Values like perseverance, dedication, or discipline come to mind.
I'm sure these principles mean something to you, but just not in GT5 or video games huh.
Well I have to ask, what makes doing it without glitching proper? The rules for the VC are simply arbitrary rules established by PD. What if PD had made the rules such that getting bronze was good enough to get all three X1's. Would that not be proper since it was easier?So doing it without glitch is not a proper way? Okay, we have to disagree here.
And compared to doing without glitch, the 'tough got going' considering it's the quickest and more effortless way to their goal? And furthermore should be commended too? Again we have to disagree.
Post 1 - I comment how people should have unlimited access to X1. I clearly hate the level system, but nothing hints about disliking the game completely.Why did I say you 'seem'? Well looking at just some of your posts in the GTP forums:
I am.But it sure does sound like you are very dissatisfied with many aspects of the game, or at least with PD to quite a certain degree.
Your example of traffic jam, comparisons with driving, endurance races, and GT5 love is even more foolishly illogical.
You don't have to "cheat". That's up to the individual. But you shouldn't expect a pat on the shoulder for doing it "legit", nor should you consider yourself superior to people who disagree with you.But you're absolutely right I'm not very good at reading people.
I'm also not clever enough to cheat, then totally twisting my way into calling it not cheating, and finally expecting a congratulatory pat on the shoulder.
In addition, I'm also not bright enough to insult people, then outright calling it not insulting. Kudos to you for such manipulation. đź‘Ťđź‘Ť
My first X1 was acquired by bronzing VC in ~ December/January. I didn't want the others because I thought they only differed visually, but I found out that I was wrong and that the carbon had a variable transmission. I then traded for an X1 Carbon, found that someone put the rigidity mod on it, then golded the VC to get a stock Carbon. I never used the borrow glitch. Though I had also tried to get Blue X1 while it was tradeable since it's my preferred color, maybe I'll borrow glitch that. My current plan is to wait until I'm Level 40, then buy the Blue X1 with Remote Race money.And okay, so you glitched the challenges just to get the X1.
But couldn't you get the car via the borrow glitch? I mean weren't you doing that already (by the looks of your posts in borrow-glitch threads)? Or perhaps buying the car by reaching certain A/B-spec levels?
Isn't that much easier as compared to waiting or trying so hard to glitch? I'm just wondering here (serious question).
You're clearly missing the point here.
No doubt GTP is big, and probably have only a handful of moderators. And no one expects 100% flawless performance from them (never even said this).
But allowing multiple cheat threads (relating to X1 challenge), each amounting up to more than 5 pages (surely they cannot have overlooked?), and quickly locking threads (also relating to X1 challenge, but just 1-2posts) out of jealousy - that somehow shows biased behavior to me (again just my view only).
Perhaps you don't even know what I'm referring to, because you didn't choose to comprehend the whole picture. But not blaming you here, so pls don't judge me.
I know you're not a mod, so you can't speak on their behalf. Nonetheless you're doing a great job. I'm sure the mods love you and hate me very much. đź‘Ť
Like I said before (if you even read my earlier posts here), whether you call it cheating, true cheating or even not cheating at all - please go ahead and cheat however you wish to.
And no it's not affecting anyone, never before said it is.
You really can't "blame" PD, unless they did it intentionally. Mistakes are made. The glitches may be one such a mistake. It's a glitcher's choice to glitch or not.
Now what I think Sony should do is stop trying to pretend that trophies and preventing "cheating" are so important, and gives players an option. When a game starts up, give players to choice to play how they want, but at the cost of giving up trophies. If the player wants trophies, they get to start a new save along side their current one, and extra tight measures are used to prevent exploiting.
LBP sort of did this. You could copy someone else's save so you could skip the tedious developer made levels and jump into the level creator which was basically the point of the game, yet for some reason locked and restricted initially. If you did this, you lost trophies forever. I only regret not finding this before I manged to get a couple of LBP trophies.
I used the glitch for Suzuka and Nurburgring.
After spending an hour trying to glitch Monza, I gave up and and did it legit in an hour!
I couldn't care less if people glitch or not. If you have completed 99% of the game legitimately and then glitched for 1% that doesn't mean your some kind of evil cheater.
Unfortunately it did. I tried to go out of the track at Suzuka, getting out was the same as before and took little effort. But almost immediately after getting out I was reset. So if anyone plans on using the glitch don't upgrade yet!NokkienCan someone confirm if the patch has plugged this glitch or not?
NokkienGolded Vettel on 3 accounts check
Best time on Monza: 1.56.363 check
9 X2010s check
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