Vettel Challenge

[mattythedog]

Got gold on Monza today. Gave up on using a DS3 and dug out my wheel from the cupboard. The feeling I got having toiled away and then finally beating gold by around a second was tremendous.

 

[599GT]

tALEz, well done man, well done.
What a speech.
👍

 

[teecro]

@ tALEz - After reading your long post, yes I did read all of it. I have a couple things I'd like to say.

Please go back and read the very last sentence that you wrote. Why is okay for you to make fun of or belittle the cheaters but you are telling them not to do the same to non-cheaters?

Have you ever used any of these at any time...
Codebreaker?
Game Shark?
Game Genie?
Push button codes? [Example - up, up, down, down, left right, left, right, b, a, select, start.]
Codes that you type into a cheat menu? [Examples - DK mode on Goldeneye or unlock all songs on a Guitar Hero.]

If you have answered yes to any of those, then your whole argument goes out the window. [Of course to save your point, you probably wouldn't admit to it anyway.]

Yes, I glitched Suzuka and Nurburgring. By the way, I also did Monza legit.
I will openly admit to doing so and will not try to say otherwise.
Am I jealous of the ones that did it legit? Not at all, more power to them for doing so and congrats.
Do I feel bad or guilty about glitching? Again, not at all. My schedule doesn't allow me the time to be able to do so. Between working nightshift, raising a daughter, spending time with my family, and trying to get my business up and running, how much time is really available to devote to such a challenge?
You can say that I'm making up excuses, but it's the truth.

If you did think about all the 'excuses' that have been said through here, maybe you'd realize they aren't just excuses but legit reasons. [I will say some really are just excuses.]
Think of the people that physically can't do it. [Examples - Not fast enough reaction time, or they have arthritis.]
What about the people that don't have the time to devote to such an insane challenge. [Like me.]
How about the people that say it's just a game and it's not hurting your gameplay in any way. Think about it, it's true. It's not like they are doing it online to you. It's an offline glitch, you remain untouched by it. [I may have glitched this but I never glitch in online play, as it effects other people.]
Think of the people that honestly don't care about the gold or silver and just want the X1 Prototype.

I do understand that you have this feeling of pride for doing all legit and that's great, good job.👍 But please don't have an elitist attitude about it and imply that everyone who does this is the same and make us out to sound so low.
I do understand your side as well, you feel cheated due to the fact you toughed it out and then this is stumbled upon.
Don't forget, you may feel cheated that this is here, but you will still be able to say you did it legit. That isn't getting taken away from you.
There will always be arguments like this for as long as there are games.

I am not trying to make things worse, but trying to possibly show the other side in a civil manner. No flaming, no name calling, nothing out of line..

 

[Exorcet]

Before anyone else posts it.
Wow, unfair to us who did it legit, eh?

No it's not. As someone who did it legit, I congratulate him on finding a better way.

Platinum now means nothing because glitching is actively encouraged by certain members in this forum and allowed to be published by GTPlanet, hence why this thread and similar still exist. The only reason for this is because so many people out there do not have the skill to complete GT5 without cheating. It just discredits the game. Hopefully the next update will patch the glitching in this event.

Platinum never meant anything. It's a trophy, there isn't much worth less than those. A challenge is something that you do for the challenge, not the prize. Why do you need your shiny bunch of pixel to feel like you accomplished something? Shouldn't your feeling of accomplishment come from the accomplishment itself? Anyone who glitched the VC got a Plat, but they didn't fulfill the Plat requirements. It's the latter that's important isn't it?

I totally agree!
Why does GTP encourage glitching is beyond my comprehension.
I golded Vettel without glitching (used the Suzuka glitch but got gold legit too after I golded Nurburgring).
Community is already sad - I mean, people willing to delete their game data and waste 1h just because of 1 car is funny proof how ****ed up this community is.
Same goes for Vettel, xp glitch and trading.
I don't encourage but it's something I or anyone can't fight with. The only people who can fight with this are the GTP staff members but they don't, so that's why we have all of the things I've mentioned above.

As if glitching is bad or reflects on the mentality of someone. Actually, it might do the latter - someone who glitches rather than moan about people glitching probably has a better sense of priorities; at least I feel that way. What's wrong with glitching? Deleting and reinstalling a save for 1 hour < Spending a year trying to gold an event. If you want the car ASAP, you'd have to be crazy to get it "legit". This is common sense.

The word "Challenge" is a dead giveaway here. lol Using the DS3 is extremely difficult to beat the Vettel Challenge (without glitching) but not impossible.

The X2010 is a fantasy car, you have to adapt your driving technique and learn how to drive the car fast. If you hate it, no ones forcing you to do it.

For me, the only point to the Vettel was to get the X1. Had there been no prize I would looked to it as a challenge and not an annoyance. There's no reason to lock the X1 in the VC. And there is no reason to find annoyance with people glitching a stupid unlock system.

Yes, most probably because alot of the moderators can't complete the X1 Challenge without cheating so they keep threads like this on here so they actively encourage cheating to get evidence on how to do it.

If mods locked "cheating" threads, it would be an embarrassment to the forums and a great display of immaturity.

 

[599GT]

PS1 wasn't connected to the internet, was it?
PS1 didn't have trophies, did it?

GameShark, push button codes & so on, were ok in that era since you didn't affect anyone by your actions.

I've said - glitch, I don't care (why should I) but if you had glitched, please, leave your ego at the doorstep and don't try to make any excuses.

So, because I don't have a wheel or enough skill with a DS3 I am not allowed to get the platinum trophy?

Platinum is meant for people who have skill to complete what the game has asked. If you can't complete a challenge that means you don't have the skill required and you don't deserve the Platinum trophy.
Simple as that.
You must be one of those glitchers who have convinced themselves that they actually deserve Platinum.
I know a little bit of psychology and I can say that the quoted guy suffers from a bad case of narcissistic personality disorder.

 

[Exorcet]

PS1 wasn't connected to the internet, was it?
PS1 didn't have trophies, did it?

GameShark, push button codes & so on, were ok in that era since you didn't affect anyone by your actions.

They still don't effect anyone. Gameshark, etc, is still OK.

Platinum is meant for people who have skill to complete what the game has asked. If you can't complete a challenge that means you don't have the skill required and you don't deserve the Platinum trophy.
Simple as that.
You must be one of those glitchers who have convinced themselves that they actually deserve Platinum.
I know a little bit of psychology and I can say that the quoted guy suffers from a bad case of narcissistic personality disorder.

Deserve Platinum? I want all of my trophies deleted. They are the epitome of worthlessness.

I don't remember what the website is that lets you look up a PSN user's trophies, but I can assure you that I probably have less than 50% trophies for every game I've ever played.

I play GT5 to race, nothing matters but online. I have a B license only because when I first got the game, I though getting a license would boost XP so I could quickly bypass the ridiculous level system. Once I found out that it didn't, I didn't try a license again. My completion % is 47 (it was around 30, but then I decided to get some of the prize cars).

I have no motive except to promote rational thinking. Complaining over glitching as if it takes away from the game is ridiculous.

EDIT - looked at the time stamp, you weren't referring to me 599. Still, this pretty much sums up how I feel on the issue.

So, because I don't have a wheel or enough skill with a DS3 I am not allowed to get the platinum trophy?

I must ask though, why do you (whoever that line was quoted from) want the trophy if you're going to get it without following its rules. It's not like car in that having it adds to your gameplay. It's pretty much a nothing. It does nothing. It's worth nothing. What is the appeal of having some pixels show up on screen? And why is it worth more than doing something challenging?

EDIT

I found the trophy site

Replace "Exorcet" with any PSN ID to see trophies.

http://us.playstation.com/publictrophy/index.htm?onlinename=Exorcet

 

[teecro]

PS1 wasn't connected to the internet, was it?
PS1 didn't have trophies, did it?

GameShark, push button codes & so on, were ok in that era since you didn't affect anyone by your actions.

I've said - glitch, I don't care (why should I) but if you had glitched, please, leave your ego at the doorstep and don't try to make any excuses.

If that was directed at my post, I'm not sure where you took it that I had ego involved with this.
I also wasn't trying to make excuses, but show the other side of this with real reasoning and elaboration, instead of in the fewest words.
I just want to keep things civil.

If the gameshark and push buttons are ok because they didn't affect anyone, how is this glitch not okay?
Did me glitching Suzuka and Nurburgring affect you or your game in any way?
If it's about now other people can get the Platinum trophy, why does that bother you so much? Where is the GT5 platinum trophy going to take you in life?

 

[599GT]

I don't like playing online.
Community is bad, people are either too slow (so that they cry for track changes/leave when they get smoked) or too stupid. The only fun I get is from offline play.
I don't have a wheel yet (looking for G27 for quite some time now) so getting Platinum on a 3 year old sixaxis is a huge achievement, at least for me.
I never play games for trophies, GT5 is the only game I'll ever get platinum on. Trophies are a stupid fuction in my oppinion but nevertheless - it was an achievement. What now? Almost everyone can get platinum, still I wonder...if someone goes through all the hassle for some of the trophies (The Air of Experience, Car Collector etc) maybe that person really deserves Platinum, who knows...anyways nothing else to say for now.

If that was directed at my post, I'm not sure where you took it that I had ego involved with this.
I also wasn't trying to make excuses, but show the other side of this with real reasoning and elaboration, instead of in the fewest words.
I just want to keep things civil.

If the gameshark and push buttons are ok because they didn't affect anyone, how is this glitch not okay?
Did me glitching Suzuka and Nurburgring affect you or your game in any way?
If it's about now other people can get the Platinum trophy, why does that bother you so much? Where is the GT5 platinum trophy going to take you in life?

Wasn't reffering to you (ego, excuses).

My life is irrelevant to my skill in GT5.

 

[Exorcet]

I don't like playing online.
Community is bad, people are either too slow (so that they cry for track changes/leave when they get smoked) or too stupid. The only fun I get is from offline play.
I don't have a wheel yet (looking for G27 for quite some time now) so getting Platinum on a 3 year old sixaxis is a huge achievement, at least for me.
I never play games for trophies, GT5 is the only game I'll ever get platinum on. Trophies are a stupid fuction in my oppinion but nevertheless - it was an achievement. What now? Almost everyone can get platinum, still I wonder...if someone goes through all the hassle for some of the trophies (The Air of Experience, Car Collector etc) maybe that person really deserves Platinum, who knows...anyways nothing else to say for now.

Yes but, what I'm saying is that the achievement has value. The trophy does not. Even if everyone was given Plat just for tuning on the game, you would still have the achievement of completing the Plat checklist - you have done something that others can't. I don't see why someone should care that it's possible to get Plat easily, because getting Plat and achieving Plat are no longer the same thing.

By the same token though I don't get why one would put effort toward Plat at all just for sake of having an image pop up on screen. If someone gets Plat by glitching, they haven't accomplished anything. The challenge of getting a Plat is meaningless unless a player says "Yeah, that sounds challenging, I'll try to do it." Instead we have people going "Platinum will make me [seem better?] [more respected?] [????]." I just don't get it.

 

[599GT]

Elitism maybe?
It exists on almost every game.

Simply plat is 1337 and you can have a sig like this *look down @ my sig* on a forum with 190.000 members, j/k but as I've said - some people will convince themselves that they really do deserve plat even tho they glicthed for it, that makes me go "grrrr" (not really).

 

[Max Cavalera]

PS1 wasn't connected to the internet, was it?
PS1 didn't have trophies, did it?

GameShark, push button codes & so on, were ok in that era since you didn't affect anyone by your actions.

I've said - glitch, I don't care (why should I) but if you had glitched, please, leave your ego at the doorstep and don't try to make any excuses.




Platinum is meant for people who have skill to complete what the game has asked. If you can't complete a challenge that means you don't have the skill required and you don't deserve the Platinum trophy.
Simple as that.
You must be one of those glitchers who have convinced themselves that they actually deserve Platinum.
I know a little bit of psychology and I can say that the quoted guy suffers from a bad case of narcissistic personality disorder.

PS1 dont have online, thats right. And the people using this glitch on Vettel Challengem are using this online? No. Dont have nothing online. Sorry man, you lost.

 

[599GT]

PS1 dont have online, thats right. And the people using this glitch on Vettel Challengem are using this online? No. Dont have nothing online. Sorry man, you lost.

You sync the trophies, right? I think that's online, don't you?

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

There are probably 1000's of them (most are likely just kids too), and you are just 1 of the alien-few.

It's not a matter of age, and the younger guys are probably more skilled (reaction time). There are not a lot guys on the planet capable to beat the Vettel Challenge with a DS3. But with a wheel.

"To glitch itself is not easy, it's just as hard as doing it legitimately." <--- LOL WUT

Try the Monza glitch & tell me it's easy. You are watching a 2 minute glitcher video on Youtube & think it's pillepalle. Glitch Monza & you'll get what I mean.

Btw. Monza was the only one I could goldish legit, with a DS3. And I have spent days on the other ones. Result = broken DS3.

And sure yes the X1 challenges + gold times were probably designed with 'wheel in mind' and likely not the DS3.
But isn't PD already aware of this? Isn't this the reason they came up with the controller sensitivity option in patch 1.06 which made the challenges alot easier?

Improvement, yes. But it doesn't eliminate the advantage of a DS3 compared to a wheel. It's still a drama.

How much more jealous can you get? So if you can't do it, that means others can't do it too?
You seem to be posting within reason a couple of pages ago. But when you started getting more cheaters on your side, you then begin discrediting the non-cheaters?

I never said it can't be done with a DS3. But only some aliens are uber enough to beat it with a DS3. I am human, sorry I had to glitch to get it done.

I am not proud of it & I don't brag with a "GT5 Platinum" banner in my signature.

I am more upset that PD can't made the Vettel Challenge doable for an human. Every hillbilly can goldish it with a wheel. It's for sure not balanced!

I won't post my own links since you probably won't believe me. But pls check these videos:

Notice how 'jerky' those small-turns are. Tell me those are done with a wheel and not a DS3.

You can do "jerky" turns with a wheel as well. It proof nothing.

There is no "Player X using a DS3" or "Player X using a wheel" - symbol on the screen of your replay.

You can't proof it. Sadly.


And again: don't blame the glitcher for glitching, blame PD for not fixing their game. No holes = no glitchers. It's their business, not ours.

 

[599GT]

If you think wheel will drive for you - you're very wrong.
It's not easy with wheel, it's easier than with a pad but not easy.

Wheel won't make you faster, wheel will just make it easier for you to drive fast - you'll be much more consistent.


You ever driven with a wheel? I guess you haven't since you make those silly comments.

 

[G24]

If you think wheel will drive for you - you're very wrong.
It's not easy with wheel, it's easier than with a pad but not easy.

Wheel won't make you faster, wheel will just make it easier for you to drive fast - you'll be much more consistent.

You ever driven with a wheel? I guess you haven't since you make those silly comments.

Yep I gotta agree with 599GT, all the wheel does is add a new level of realism, and maybe two foot driving -other than that it's no easier than the controller. I'm only 1/100 sec away from golding Suzuka with the D3S pad, and it is doable.
Advice to anyone doing the vettle challange - practice in TT mode until you can equal lap times, then head over- it's easier to race the tracks when you don't have to learn the car a the same time.

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

If you think wheel will drive for you - you're very wrong.
It's not easy with wheel, it's easier than with a pad but not easy.

Wheel won't make you faster, wheel will just make it easier for you to drive fast - you'll be much more consistent.


You ever driven with a wheel? I guess you haven't since you make those silly comments.

Yea, that's what I mean. It's not about speed, it's about control & precision. 900° on the wheel & what again on the DS3?

Do you think I don't know what's the plus is of a wheel? If it where that easy to drive a car with 2 sticks, then we wouldn't have a wheel, a accelerator pedal & a brake pedal in our cars.



Show me videos where Kaz goldish all 3 Vettel Challenges with a DS3 & I stop moaning. 👍

Nuff said.

 

[Si-UK]

@ tALEz - After reading your long post, yes I did read all of it. I have a couple things I'd like to say.

Please go back and read the very last sentence that you wrote. Why is okay for you to make fun of or belittle the cheaters but you are telling them not to do the same to non-cheaters?

Does it really need an answer?.....well it evidently does...

If you CHEAT....you lose all credibility, yes that does make you low and you haven't acquired the skill to complete the CHALLENGE fairly.

Please don't try to think you're on the same level playing field as people that do the challenge legitimately and that you have an argument to justify your cheating because it simply does not hold any weight.

Have no time to do it fairly so i'll glitch and get it over with?...that is lame. No one is forcing you to do the challenge and a little practice each day or whenever you can will gradually see an improvement. Fact. If it doesn't, then that is just unfortunate, it will just remain at your best achievement be it Silver or Bronze.

It's not rocket science here, it doesn't mean as some people seem to suggest that it's telling people how to play their game....No of course it isn't, no where in this thread has anyone told you how to play your game. It's become a discussion about values in cheating against non-cheating... maybe the cheaters would prefer a different word?...perhaps it's being called a cheat that makes people so defensive but that is the harsh reality of it.

There are more and more videos appearing online showing people completing Gold legitimately on the Vettel Challenge with a DS3 so to make an excuse that people have to cheat to get gold with the DS3 is complete rubbish. Just improve your driving skills. If you can't...well it's just a game, move on, do something different.

 

[tALEz]

Please go back and read the very last sentence that you wrote. Why is okay for you to make fun of or belittle the cheaters but you are telling them not to do the same to non-cheaters?

Oh I'm sorry if you think I was belittling them. I was merely explaining several things:
- what the thread has turned into
- that the cheaters can cheat all they want
- that the cheaters can't expect 0 hate when they cheat
- that this guy ZeGermanBastorD and some others shouldn't make fun or discredit the non-cheaters
while giving some examples.
If you still insist that I was belittling them then I apologize.
Perhaps the fact that I already mentioned - cheaters will get less respect?
Or perhaps the cheaters were starting to make fun of the non-cheaters? Should I keep quiet and stop posting too.

Have you ever used any of these at any time...
Codebreaker?
Game Shark?
Game Genie?
Push button codes? [Example - up, up, down, down, left right, left, right, b, a, select, start.]
Codes that you type into a cheat menu? [Examples - DK mode on Goldeneye or unlock all songs on a Guitar Hero.]

If you have answered yes to any of those, then your whole argument goes out the window. [Of course to save your point, you probably wouldn't admit to it anyway.]

Codebreaker - I'm sorry I don't know what that is.
Game Shark, Game Genies - I assume these are for the PS1? Really sorry, I never owned a PS1 in my life before.
Push button codes - What is this?
Codes that you type into a cheat menu - Sorry never tried before.

Even if I say no, you probably won't believe it anyway. But I admit that I've cheated before in life in one way or another.
Did I feel bad? Yes. Did I accept reprimanding? Sure. Did I get make fun of because of cheating? Well certainly!
Did I turn the tides 180° and make other ppl look bad instead? Hell no.
I'm sure it's safe to say that everyone has 'cheated' before in their life.
Does that eliminate all arguments about cheating then? Hmm, I'm not sure about this one...

Yes, I glitched Suzuka and Nurburgring. By the way, I also did Monza legit.
I will openly admit to doing so and will not try to say otherwise.
Am I jealous of the ones that did it legit? Not at all, more power to them for doing so and congrats.
Do I feel bad or guilty about glitching? Again, not at all. My schedule doesn't allow me the time to be able to do so. Between working nightshift, raising a daughter, spending time with my family, and trying to get my business up and running, how much time is really available to devote to such a challenge?
You can say that I'm making up excuses, but it's the truth.

Thanks for your congrats.
Never said YOU were jealous that we did it legit. It's only a select few that until NOW are still trying to discredit the non-cheaters.

Totally understood regarding your life situations (I too am a married man, have a family and run my own business).
But this begs the question again - Why is it so important that you absolutely have to cheat? What is beyond the X1 golds that you're looking for? Is it really the platinum trophy? Is it the carbon car? (Not being cynical here, just trying to understand)

And if you read my earlier post, I mentioned that
- assuming I still haven't completed the challenges now, I would still never glitch just to get gold. I'd keep at it probably 1-2hrs per day, even if it meant I'll not be getting gold for at least many more weeks.
I also know a friend who stuck at it without giving up (all the while being aware of the available glitches) until he got gold finally without cheat.

If you did think about all the 'excuses' that have been said through here, maybe you'd realize they aren't just excuses but legit reasons. [I will say some really are just excuses.]

So are they reasons or excuses here? I'm sorta confused. Pls make up your mind.

Think of the people that physically can't do it. [Examples - Not fast enough reaction time, or they have arthritis.]
What about the people that don't have the time to devote to such an insane challenge. [Like me.]
How about the people that say it's just a game and it's not hurting your gameplay in any way. Think about it, it's true. It's not like they are doing it online to you. It's an offline glitch, you remain untouched by it. [I may have glitched this but I never glitch in online play, as it effects other people.]
Think of the people that honestly don't care about the gold or silver and just want the X1 Prototype.

Again, totally understandable about everyone's different situations.
But I hope you understand my post too. I'm telling the cheaters to cheat all they want.
I'm not saying "screw your arthritis" or "screw your busy schedule". I'm not saying they're affecting me, so please go ahead and cheat.
I was (again like I said) pointing out they can't expect 0% haters (did you?), and they shouldn't make fun of the non-cheaters instead. Do you get what I'm repeating here?

As if glitching is bad or reflects on the mentality of someone. Actually, it might do the latter - someone who glitches rather than moan about people glitching probably has a better sense of priorities; at least I feel that way. What's wrong with glitching? Deleting and reinstalling a save for 1 hour < Spending a year trying to gold an event. If you want the car ASAP, you'd have to be crazy to get it "legit". This is common sense.

Actually it DOES somewhat reflect on the person's mentality, morale, discipline - however you want to put it.
If something is very tough, it's always better to cheat your way through?
- Thomas Edison failed 10,000 times before succeeding. Should he have screwed the light bulb and opt for the matches/lighter instead?
- J.K. Rowling (author of Harry Potter series) was rejected by twelve different publishers and was told to "go get a day job". Should she have given up and worked at PizzaHut instead? Should she have slept with someone to get her book published?
Sure these aren't video games, but do they share a similar concept? I can give you plenty more examples.

When the going gets tough, the tough gets going.
But no, it's 'crazy' to do it the long-proper way? It's more common sense to find glitches?

For me, the only point to the Vettel was to get the X1. Had there been no prize I would looked to it as a challenge and not an annoyance. There's no reason to lock the X1 in the VC. And there is no reason to find annoyance with people glitching a stupid unlock system.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but seems like you (and for sure alot others) really hate the game. Why are you still playing it? What did you get the X1 prototype for?

If mods locked "cheating" threads, it would be an embarrassment to the forums and a great display of immaturity.

Sorry I'm not understanding this. Care to explain?
And what about mods locking 'non-cheat' threads, but allowing multiple 'cheat' threads instead?

It's not a matter of age, and the younger guys are probably more skilled (reaction time). There are not a lot guys on the planet capable to beat the Vettel Challenge with a DS3. But with a wheel.

Never said it was a matter of age.
Okay... younger guys are probably more skilled, awesome. But sorry, I don't get what is your point here?

Try the Monza glitch & tell me it's easy. You are watching a 2 minute glitcher video on Youtube & think it's pillepalle. Glitch Monza & you'll get what I mean.

Btw. Monza was the only one I could goldish legit, with a DS3. And I have spent days on the other ones. Result = broken DS3.

Okay... I take your word that glitching Monza is just as hard as doing it legitimately.
So then why are ppl still glitching Monza when doing it legitimately is just as hard? Why did you still want to glitch even though you already golded it legitimately?
Very confused here. Is glitching more fun?
And nope sorry I won't try the glitch, but thank you.

Improvement, yes. But it doesn't eliminate the advantage of a DS3 compared to a wheel. It's still a drama.

Never said it was eliminated at all. Just said it made it alot easier.
And I think you meant 'disadvantage' instead of 'advantage'.

I never said it can't be done with a DS3. But only some aliens are uber enough to beat it with a DS3. I am human, sorry I had to glitch to get it done.

I am not proud of it & I don't brag with a "GT5 Platinum" banner in my signature.

I am more upset that PD can't made the Vettel Challenge doable for an human. Every hillbilly can goldish it with a wheel. It's for sure not balanced!

Ah so you're sorry, okay.
And you don't brag about it cause you cheated, good for you! Not sure about others though, we can only guess.
So the Vettel Challenge is still not doable for humans even after patch 1.06?
And anyone (including hillbillies) can gold the challenges with a wheel? I didn't know that, thanks for pointing that out.
Thus those with wheels but still can't gold the challenges, they're even less than hillbillies?

You can do "jerky" turns with a wheel as well. It proof nothing.

There is no "Player X using a DS3" or "Player X using a wheel" - symbol on the screen of your replay.

You can't proof it. Sadly.

You can do them with a wheel too? Sorry I didn't know that. I never had a wheel.
You're the expert with a wheel.
In that case yes I can't prove it. Would you like to go tell the others and tidgney that they can't prove it as well?
And just out of curiosity, would you mind showing a video of the 'jerky' small turns that is done with a wheel? With proof as well?

And again: don't blame the glitcher for glitching, blame PD for not fixing their game. No holes = no glitchers. It's their business, not ours.

So because there's a hole, you must glitch? And when you cheat, it's their business, not yours?
Wow, okay I will keep that in mind.

 

[Max Cavalera]

You sync the trophies, right? I think that's online, don't you?

LOL. Dont iterfer with you. I dont play with you, and i can get the trophies without play with any other player.

Another question. why Vettel dont do tha times using a DS3? And, why the Gold Times arent the times of Vettel? Because the times he did it its 1.5 seconds more. The ghost on the track its Vettel.

Like the GT-R Record. That record its real, but now exist another record, but when they did the game its that record and they put in game that record. hey dont put the time with 2 seconds less.

 

[599GT]

Because Vettel didn't have 9 months to practice with GT5 you ****ing ****.
You have sensitivity adjustment, what more do you want?

 

[isildur]

Because Vettel didn't have 9 months to practice with GT5 you ****ing ****.
You have sensitivity adjustment, what more do you want?

Ouch..temper temper..

 

[599GT]

But hey, glitching is as hard as doing it legit.

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

Okay... I take your word that glitching Monza is just as hard as doing it legitimately.
So then why are ppl still glitching Monza when doing it legitimately is just as hard? Why did you still want to glitch even though you already golded it legitimately?
Very confused here. Is glitching more fun?
And nope sorry I won't try the glitch, but thank you.

Because I have 2 other accounts, prepared them for platinum.

Glitching Monza is a real challenge. No joke. We should deserve a "GlitcherKing" trophy for it.

So because there's a hole, you must glitch? And when you cheat, it's their business, not yours?
Wow, okay I will keep that in mind.

You don't have to, but it's imo not very clever to blame the glitchers for using "the easy way" when it's clearly PD's fault.

If you leave your car unlocked over the night then don't blame the thieves for stealing your car audio system.

Ah so you're sorry, okay.
And you don't brag about it cause you cheated, good for you! Not sure about others though, we can only guess.

Exactly, we can only guess. And that brings me to another question.

Why should anyone who have golded the Vettel Challenges legitim (like he stated) creating a thread like this & asking "indirectly" how to glitch?

So, as many of you may know - out of the track related glitches are present on many tracks (Sarthe, Monza, Nurburgring, Fuji, Daytona & Suzuka are confirmed).
I did the Suzuka one for gold in S.Vettel and I managed to get out of the track on both Monza and Nurburgring quite easily - but my car kept getting reset back to the track.
So I thought this: if I downgrade my GT5 that I'll be able to gold the remaining two without the annoying car reset...so I downgraded my GT5 (deleted the game data and reinstalled without updating) and I was dissapointed...I couldn't leave the track on 1.05.
There is something in 1.10 which makes leaving the track extremly easy.
I'm posting this so that it gets noticed and fixed. PD messed something up big time on 1.10.

A bit suspicious, isn't it?

 

[isildur]

Because I have 2 other accounts, prepared them for platinum.

Glitching Monza is a real challenge. No joke. We should deserve a "GlitcherKing" trophy for it.



You don't have to, but it's imo not very clever to blame the glitchers for using "the easy way" when it's clearly PD's fault.

If you leave your car unlocked over the night then don't blame the thieves for stealing your car audio system.



Exactly, we can only guess. And that brings me to another question.

Why should anyone who have golded the Vettel Challenges legitim (like he stated) creating a thread like this & asking "indirectly" how to glitch?



A bit suspicious, isn't it?

Hahahahahahahahaha...he is so busted. LMFAO here.

 

[599GT]

I never denied using Suzuka glitch, after all - it brought me back to the challenge.
After Suzuka I did Monza and after Monza I did Nurburgring - legit since you couldn't glitch on those 2 maps back then.
When I did Monza and Nurburgring I realised that it's not impossible at all, infact it's very doable so I did Suzuka after I did Nurburgring.
I have the replays saved and will be doing the challenge on other account too.
Good ammount of jealousy there I see.

 

[teecro]

I never denied using Suzuka glitch, after all - it brought me back to the challenge.
After Suzuka I did Monza and after Monza I did Nurburgring - legit since you couldn't glitch on those 2 maps back then.
When I did Monza and Nurburgring I realised that it's not impossible at all, infact it's very doable so I did Suzuka after I did Nurburgring.
I have the replays saved and will be doing the challenge on other account too.
Good ammount of jealousy there I see.

Then why are you hating so much on glitchers and people doing this when you are just as guilty?

 

[599GT]

I'm not a ****. 👍

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

👍

I said, I never denied using it.
The problem is (for those who can't see) - people who can't even get silver legit (which is very easy, on all 3 tracks) can now go around with gold and attack people who got it legitemetely.
People even glitch on Monza, you should get shot.

I have the replays of all 3 tracks saved on my PS3. I can't upload since I can't record.
I could send the replays (upload them on GTP) but why should I go that far to prove a point to glitchers?

No one attacks anyone, only you are a bit upset.

You are a glitcher (you said it, not me), you are one of us, you are evil.

Stay to it & stop the flame war.

I'll be accepting offers after PD repairs the glitch. 👍

Are you the one, offering to goldish the Vettel challenges for 25€ on Youtube? (read the Youtube desription)

"You have to understand i won't do it for nothing... but it will only cost you 10€ per track. Special offer: 25€ for all 3 tracks!"

The new GT5 scam is born.

 

[teecro]

No one attacks anyone, only you are a bit upset.

You are a glitcher (you said it, not me), you are one of us, you are evil.

Stay to it & stop the flame war.

But don't forget, he claims in an earlier post that went back and golded Suzuka legit after he already glitched it.
If it was that easy for you to gold after you glitch, then why did you glitch?

 

[isildur]

No one attacks anyone, only you are a bit upset.

You are a glitcher (you said it, not me), you are one of us, you are evil.

Stay to it & stop the flame war.

hahahahahahahahahaha.....this is so brilliant...OMG