Vettel Challenge

[599GT]

As long as you glitch for X2010 Prototype alone - I'm ok with that and I don't care.

Also, S.Vettel challenge is by no means impossible with a controller. Yes it is hard but not impossible.
Again, congrats to everyone who got it without glitching.

 

[strela]

sorry guys.. I'm just a liar.. in fact I'm doing this becouse of my younger brother.. he really want me to get the platinum so he could brag in front of his friends.. how can I disapoint him?...he's only 6.. it's only small cheat for a noble case

 

[isildur]

Same ****, different forum Still no answer.

No duplicating one of the 1000+ cars to get the car you want and otherwise can't get is not the same as glitching the hardest challenge in the game for no reason. At leat no one tells me a reason only comes up with excuses.... again.

The permanent borrow glitch only helps for one trophy and that is to get to a 1000 cars. It takes about an hour to reinstall and in that hour I can buy a hundred cars so it's not really cheating.

Edit: If your only reason is to get the car and you don't care about getting the platinum, Then yes the Vettel glitches are faster. But most people I see are doing the glitch to get the platinum trophy and I still don't see why. Can someone please give me an answer about that now?

You ask a good question which I will answer though I am not speaking on behalf of others.

The permanent borrow glitch I used to get some cars I did not have, which helped with the 1,000 cars trophy.

The vettel glitch I intend to use to win the challenge and get the platinum trophy.

Does this answer your question?

 

[shepzki]

Well, I can safely say I used no glitch to get my Platinum trophy, I guess there is some moral high ground to be had there. However, what other people choose to do with their game is entirely down to them, they paid for the game like everybody else and it doesn't bother me one bit.

My main game is now finished, so I started again a couple of weeks ago on another account and did the entire challenge again with my trusty DS3. Once you have done it, it just doesn't seem that hard 2nd time round. Even the Grand Tour event, which I really struggled with 1st time fell within about 90 minutes 2nd time.

Put the effort in and get the reward, like I say I have nothing against glitchers but somewhere deep down they will eventually feel hollow they did it that way.

 

[Max Cavalera]

I dont understand this. People here are condemn the people for using the glitch on Vettel. But some people here use the Permanent Borrow Glitch, and i believe many of you used this glitch!


So. if you use one of this glitch, you are a cheater to. Simple! you cant condemn the people who use the glitch on Vettel, because you use some glitchs of the game to. And i believe most of you use the Nurburgring glitch online to earn money and XP...

 

[599GT]

at that glitch.
You can't compare B licence test with the hardest challenge in the game, you just can't.
The only people who support glitching are the ones who glitch themselves.

 

[Fluk3]

The permanent borrow glitch only helps for one trophy

...The Vettel glitch only helps for one trophy

 

[Max Cavalera]

...The Vettel glitch only helps for one trophy

 

[leepangfu]

You are completely missing my point. I'm not saying people who use this glitch are bad people so stop going in defense mode and say stupid things that make no sense please. I'm wondering why you want to have the platinum trophy by glitching. Is it because you can't stand that you have put all the time in the game but can't finish the last challenge or maybe because you are somehow addicted to getting the trophies and can't play a game for fun before you have it. So that's what I'm wondering because I would hate to have that trophy knowing that I didn't really earn it. Maybe we're just different. I'm just trying to understand it

 

[Fluk3]

I think you missed my point. Why is glitching ok to get a certain trophy but not ok to get another?

You are completely missing my point. I'm not saying people who use this glitch are bad people so stop going in defense mode and say stupid things that make no sense please. I'm wondering why you want to have the platinum trophy by glitching. Is it because you can't stand that you have put all the time in the game but can't finish the last challenge or maybe because you are somehow addicted to getting the trophies and can't play a game for fun before you have it. So that's what I'm wondering because I would hate to have that trophy knowing that I didn't really earn it. Maybe we're just different. I'm just trying to understand it

I'm not in defense mode, personally I couldn't care less about whether I complete the Vettel challenge or whether I get a trophy, neither improve my life in any way and what I said was not stupid, I was pointing out the double standards, it's ok to glitch for a certain trophy, but not another?

I'm not for or against people glitching, so long as it does not ruin another persons experience when they are playing the game. In this case someone having a trophy doesn't effect other players. If this was glitching in an online race, then I would be against it.

What I am for though is people being allowed to play a game how they see fit and not be told by others how they should play it. No-one has the right to tell other people what they should or should not do.

 

[Max Cavalera]

I think you missed my point. Why is glitching ok to get a certain trophy but not ok to get another?



I'm not in defense mode, personally I couldn't care less about whether I complete the Vettel challenge or whether I get a trophy, neither improve my life in any way and what I said was not stupid, I was pointing out the double standards, it's ok to glitch for a certain trophy, but not another?

I'm not for or against people glitching, so long as it does not ruin another persons experience when they are playing the game. In this case someone having a trophy doesn't effect other players. If this was glitching in an online race, then I would be against it.

What I am for though is people being allowed to play a game how they see fit and not be told by others how they should play it. No-one has the right to tell other people what they should or should not do.

I understand what you say. If they use the Borrow Glitch to get one trophy, why others cant use Vettel Glitch to get another trophy to?

 

[isildur]

I think you missed my point. Why is glitching ok to get a certain trophy but not ok to get another?



I'm not in defense mode, personally I couldn't care less about whether I complete the Vettel challenge or whether I get a trophy, neither improve my life in any way and what I said was not stupid, I was pointing out the double standards, it's ok to glitch for a certain trophy, but not another?

I'm not for or against people glitching, so long as it does not ruin another persons experience when they are playing the game. In this case someone having a trophy doesn't effect other players. If this was glitching in an online race, then I would be against it.

What I am for though is people being allowed to play a game how they see fit and not be told by others how they should play it. No-one has the right to tell other people what they should or should not do.

100% agree with you.

 

[leepangfu]

I think you missed my point. Why is glitching ok to get a certain trophy but not ok to get another?



I'm not in defense mode, personally I couldn't care less about whether I complete the Vettel challenge or whether I get a trophy, neither improve my life in any way and what I said was not stupid, I was pointing out the double standards, it's ok to glitch for a certain trophy, but not another?

I'm not for or against people glitching, so long as it does not ruin another persons experience when they are playing the game. In this case someone having a trophy doesn't effect other players. If this was glitching in an online race, then I would be against it.

What I am for though is people being allowed to play a game how they see fit and not be told by others how they should play it. No-one has the right to tell other people what they should or should not do.

I completely agree with you. Like I said I don't care if you glitch for a trophy but I just want to know why people would want to do that. Because I wouldn't like to get an award for something I didn't do. Sorry that I called your post stupid but every time I ask this I get that kind of responses and most of the time they are not thought through in any way. I still haven't got one answer to my question while like 10 different people on 2 forums already replied.

I've glitched in other games but not to get some award that adds nothing for me without actually doing the things necessary. That's why I see differences in different glitches. Everybody who completed the Vettel challenges will probably agree with me that you get a great feeling of accomplishment when you finally made it. Something that not many challenges offer you in games. Something like winning a game with your footballteam. That's the only reason I want that trophy. I don't give a **** that I now have a picture of a silver colored trophy somewhere on my PS3 but I remember the work I put in to it. Doing it with glitches won't give that feeling.

I've used glitches to make the game more enjoyable for me. In GT5 with duping cars to trade for cars I want to use.

Edit: About the borrow glitch to get a trophy. That is just plain ********. No one will reinstall his game a couple of times per day to get about 24 cars while you can do 6 seasonal races and buy a 1000 karts in a tenth of the time if you really want that trophy.

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

Gsus, some guys don't get it.

The S.Vettel times are all done by S.Vettel, the current F1 championship leader, with a wheel (look the following video). Not with a dam DS3.



Yea some guys with hyper sensitive thumbs can beat the challenge with a DS3, but it's 1000x harder as with a wheel.
So, because I don't have a wheel or enough skill with a DS3 I am not allowed to get the platinum trophy?

Each their own, but there's a point where it's getting pointless. Things need to be done & if I can archieve my goal only through a glitch, I have no scruple to use it.

And these glitches aren't very easy, the Monza one is nearly as hard as doing it legitim. Took me now around 2 days to figure it out how to do it & be fast enough doing it to get it within the reqired time.

Play your game as you want. As long as they don't glitch online, it don't have to bother you. If it does, feel free to contact PD and ask for a patch.
So stop the flame war, it's most likely getting patched the next time. :tup:

 

[leepangfu]

Gsus, some guys don't get it.

The S.Vettel times are all done by S.Vettel, the current F1 championship leader, with a wheel (look the following video). Not with a dam DS3.



Yea some guys with hyper sensitive thumbs can beat the challenge with a DS3, but it's 1000x harder as with a wheel.
So, because I don't have a wheel or enough skill with a DS3 I am not allowed to get the platinum trophy?

Each their own, but there's a point where it's getting pointless. Things need to be done & if I can archieve my goal only through a glitch, I have no scruple to use it.

And these glitches aren't very easy, the Monza one is nearly as hard as doing it legitim. Took me now around 2 days to figure it out how to do it & be fast enough doing it to get it within the reqired time.

Play your game as you want. As long as they don't glitch online, it don't have to bother you. If it does, feel free to contact PD and ask for a patch.
So stop the flame war, it's most likely getting patched the next time. :tup:

Here thank you. You are the first one to give a real answer!

 

[Max Cavalera]

Gsus, some guys don't get it.

The S.Vettel times are all done by S.Vettel, the current F1 championship leader, with a wheel (look the following video). Not with a dam DS3.



Yea some guys with hyper sensitive thumbs can beat the challenge with a DS3, but it's 1000x harder as with a wheel.
So, because I don't have a wheel or enough skill with a DS3 I am not allowed to get the platinum trophy?

Each their own, but there's a point where it's getting pointless. Things need to be done & if I can archieve my goal only through a glitch, I have no scruple to use it.

And these glitches aren't very easy, the Monza one is nearly as hard as doing it legitim. Took me now around 2 days to figure it out how to do it & be fast enough doing it to get it within the reqired time.

Play your game as you want. As long as they don't glitch online, it don't have to bother you. If it does, feel free to contact PD and ask for a patch.
So stop the flame war, it's most likely getting patched the next time. :tup:

I would like to see Vettel doing that with the DS3. 👍
And another one, Vettel dont do that times. Monza 2:04, Nurburgring 2:08 and Suzuka 2:10. The times he did it its the ghost on the track. That ghost its Vettel. And that ghost dont do that times, i believe do 1.5s more.

 

[mattythedog]

I would like to see Vettel doing that with the DS3. 👍

+1. We should email red bull racing, and then PD can lower the times to the vettel DS3 time.

 

[leepangfu]

The thing we forget is that Vettel probably set that times after a couple of laps and we have months to beat it. If he would have played this game for a year with a wheel and we had to beat his best times then no one would even come near gold Best driver of this generation! I hope he surpasses Michael Schumacher in championships. Seemed like a great guy when he was on Top Gear.

 

[nahkajeesus]

Don't really mind cheating, but don't also like all the excuses people make up for doing it.

Was more of a personal challenge at least for me doing this event with a DS3. Was never really stuck and could feel myself improving every day.

There probably are people that have put 100+ hours to this challenge and are nowhere near gold, and i can understand why you would glitch when you feel that you are completely stuck.

 

[kaijinx1]

Mate, you won't be a GlitcherKing after some tries. It's like with the driving skills, you need to practice. Really, no joke.

It's not about full throttle, you have to "glitch" your way in like a worm. Practice & you'll get what I mean.
For practice use the practice mode, then when you know how it works, back to the Vettel challenge. 👍

Thanks for your advice. Yes, I just push hard on the throttle.
How about the wheel? Should I steer left, or right, while glitching on the throttle?

 

[599GT]

- Vettel challenge isn't impossible with a pad, so please shut up with "I don't have a wheel" excuses
- You can't compare a time consuming trophy (Car Collector) with a skill related trophies (Platinum and Gold Standard), you're really stupid if you compare those two
- I understand that many people will do this just for a car (X2010 Prototype) but there are many people who will do it for Platinum and then brag about having S.Vettel done legit


If you glitch it - admit you're glitching because you lack skill to complete it so you resort to those desperate means, don't make ten different excuses every hour.

 

[isildur]

- Vettel challenge isn't impossible with a pad, so please shut up with "I don't have a wheel" excuses
- You can't compare a time consuming trophy (Car Collector) with a skill related trophies (Platinum and Gold Standard), you're really stupid if you compare those two
- I understand that many people will do this just for a car (X2010 Prototype) but there are many people who will do it for Platinum and then brag about having S.Vettel done legit


If you glitch it - admit you're glitching because you lack skill to complete it so you resort to those desperate means, don't make ten different excuses every hour.

True..no one should make excuse..but there is a bit of contradiction in your statement and i quote..."You can't compare a time consuming trophy (Car Collector) with a skill related trophies (Platinum and Gold Standard), you're really stupid if you compare those two"..if i get it right, and please correct me if i have, you are inferring that it is ok to make excuse for the former but not the latter..is this correct?

I am still trying to get my head around how it impacts everyone of us how others choose to play.

 

[Caz]

Gt5 needs a participant trophy. This will be awarded after golding everything but the red bull challenges. It will be spray painted to look platinum.

 

[599GT]

True..no one should make excuse..but there is a bit of contradiction in your statement and i quote..."You can't compare a time consuming trophy (Car Collector) with a skill related trophies (Platinum and Gold Standard), you're really stupid if you compare those two"..if i get it right, and please correct me if i have, you are inferring that it is ok to make excuse for the former but not the latter..is this correct?

I am still trying to get my head around how it impacts everyone of us how others choose to play.

Are you that stupid? Tell me please, do you need skill for getting the Car Collector trophy? You obviously do, nevermind.

 

[isildur]

Are you that stupid? Tell me please, do you need skill for getting the Car Collector trophy? You obviously do, nevermind.

Bro, easy with the insults. We are only having a discussion/debate. We don't have to agree or share the same view point, but we can still respect eachother and put our views across without without insults. Make sense?

 

[Max Cavalera]

I think some people here need this:

 

[599GT]

"Vettel doesn't even do gold times" - Vettel does very slow laps on all 3 tracks. He does bronze times.
The point of the challenge was/is to beat him/to catch up with him.

"Go easy on the insults, we're just having a debate here" - Well, I'm trying to go as easy as I possibly can but people who talk nonsense really provoke me into saying things which are innapropriate, appologies.


In the end, I don't care - do as you like, just don't expect respect/virtual pat on the back (all you who glitch for Platinum).

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

Thanks for your advice. Yes, I just push hard on the throttle.
How about the wheel? Should I steer left, or right, while glitching on the throttle?

Yes, you need the throttle to "slide" into the wall (glitch zone) & mild throttle to get out of it. Steer left & right to "break" faster out.

For Monza, after you are in & the angle is sub-optimal, drive a bit left forward, then right return & use the trottle to slide back and out of the fence. 👍

- Vettel challenge isn't impossible with a pad, so please shut up with "I don't have a wheel" excuses
- You can't compare a time consuming trophy (Car Collector) with a skill related trophies (Platinum and Gold Standard), you're really stupid if you compare those two
- I understand that many people will do this just for a car (X2010 Prototype) but there are many people who will do it for Platinum and then brag about having S.Vettel done legit


If you glitch it - admit you're glitching because you lack skill to complete it so you resort to those desperate means, don't make ten different excuses every hour.

Sounds like someone is really peeped.

I understand that. But a flame war isn't helpful. Here you can let off your steam: Official PlayStation® Community

Enough said about DS3 vs. wheel. Point.

Go create a thread in the GTP video section "I am the master, S.Vettel beaten with a DS3!", post your 3 replays there & put the link to it in your signature.

Cash in the roses, the kisses & the champagne. Let your EGO grow. :tup:



The bad thing is you can't proof that you have done it with a DS3 .......................................

 

[tALEz]

599GT - save your hassle man.
There's no point you continuing arguing here. The cheaters vastly outnumber the rest.
Heck, even the mods condone the use of cheat. How are you going to argue with that?

It has now come to a point where the cheaters are picking on the non-cheaters. When in fact, they should be feeling bad themselves for cheating.
But no, they're not just making excuses, they're even proud of it. And now you look like the weirdo or freak who completed it with a DS3.
Do you want to stoop to that kind of level?

Look at the various reasons they've come up with:

"I don't want to spend whole life on one unrealistic challenge."
"I'm saving electricity and the nature by cheating."
"It is designed for a wheel. I don't have one."
"Other ppl did it cause of luck."
"My cheating is not ruining other ppl's experience, isn't it?"
"It's just a freaking game, I can do whatever I want."
"We can use borrow glitch, why not Vettel glitch?"
"To glitch itself is not easy, it's just as hard as doing it legitimately." <--- LOL WUT
"They didn't do it with a DS3, they can't even prove it."

Seriously?


There's even someone from this thread who PMed my friend and then me, asking us to help do the Nurburgring challenge for him.
But as soon as the Nurburg glitch was exposed, he immediately said he golded it himself, without cheat.
He says he did not cheat on Nurburg, but he admitted to cheating on Suzuka.
And while he claims he's not defending cheaters, he's obviously coming with reasons to protect them (and himself included?) in this thread.

At first they were just like "Hey calm down man." But now do you not see that they're ganging up on you because they're jealous?
They can't do it. They call your X1 gold a 2-lap-luck-race, they call you an ego-maniac, they tell you to go make an own thread for yourself.
They've already done the cheat. No doubt they are using all avenues to defend that now.
They will always have the final say. There are probably 1000's of them (most are likely just kids too), and you are just 1 of the alien-few.

Initially I visited this thread (and a few other threads) thinking we'd have good discussions on how to conquer the Vettel challenge legitimately.
But I was wrong, it's turned into a glitch thread, and now it's a bash the non-cheaters thread.


To cheaters - Yes you are right, it's your game, you can cheat however you want, it's not online/competitive play so it won't affect me.
Please cheat all you want! This just makes the non-cheat group even smaller, and the DS3 group even more exclusive. Hoo-ray for being even more proud, way-to-go ego!
But let me point out that there will ALWAYS be haters, especially when there're cheaters.
In sports, in academics, in life, in games too YES. Whenever you cheat, ppl WILL have less respect for you.


Examples (not even involving competitive play, just single person game-situations):

A: Hey man, I scored a perfect 300 in a single bowling game! / Hey man, I scored a 147 point break in a snooker game!
B: Awesome dude! How'd you do it?
A: Oh I cheated. =]
B: Huh?? Shouldn't you be feeling bad about that, instead of boasting to me?
A: **** you, others already cheated by using special bowling-balls / cues to play.
B: But how can you compare that to cheating??
A: BAH it's the same, go away man!

A: I won a game of Chess against a Level_10 Expert Computer.
B: Wow great dude, that's insanely hard!
A: But I cheated.
B: WTF?

A: Yo I scored a perfect 100% in my Calculus test.
B: What really? I couldn't even get 60%.
A: I cheated though.
B: What the...
A: But I'm not ruining your experience am I?

How can you not expect haters when you cheat?
Hey even the mods hated/disapproved of my thread because they were jealous, despite it being a valid non-cheat thread.
Truth is you cheated. You didn't expect to come here and have 100% congratulations and red carpet did you?
Why be synical and make fun of the non-cheaters now? Shouldn't it be the other way...

Let me add that I myself don't support the borrow glitch at all, and neither have I even used it before.
It's just a couple of others who say they're okay with it, but not the Vettel glitch. +__+ Which I strongly disagree with.

And sure yes the X1 challenges + gold times were probably designed with 'wheel in mind' and likely not the DS3.
But isn't PD already aware of this? Isn't this the reason they came up with the controller sensitivity option in patch 1.06 which made the challenges alot easier?

The bad thing is you can't proof that you have done it with a DS3 .......................................

How much more jealous can you get? So if you can't do it, that means others can't do it too?
You seem to be posting within reason a couple of pages ago. But when you started getting more cheaters on your side, you then begin discrediting the non-cheaters?

I won't post my own links since you probably won't believe me. But pls check these videos:


eg: After the 0:32 and 0:45 marks


eg: After the 0:54 mark

Notice how 'jerky' those small-turns are. Tell me those are done with a wheel and not a DS3.

And what about this tidgney guy from the forums then. Some of you may know him.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=158883&page=3
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=178446
Some even regard him as a 'GT god' because he was the first and only to ever gold the challenges with a DS3 prior to patch 1.06 (that means no controller sensitivity options then).
He had a wheel, but still insisted on doing it fairly with a DS3.

With a wheel, he even beat gold times by more than 2, 3 and 5 seconds.
And he has tutorials to even help guys out there.
Should we call his videos fake and say that he still can't prove any of them?

Like I said, please cheat all you want. But kindly do not belittle or make fun of those who did it fair and square.
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[DriftStyle]

I went down to my friend's house earlier and he wanted me to do the Vettel challenge with his DS3. I managed to get a 1 minute 6 second lap before spinning out on the second lap. It just annoys me that it's two laps... But there's the challenge. Its quite easy with a DS3 compared to a wheel, but it just takes some settings tweaking and some practise.