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Lexus LF-A: The Long and Winding Road
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- 924
Agreed. To wake up to that sound on a daily basis is worth the sticker price alone. Toyota tried to sell it to pre-selected clientele, but it worked its way into idiots who go and crash it into trees while trying to play Schumacher. But somehow one wormed its way into the hands of Paris Hilton (who hasn't crashed it, as far as I know).
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You'd hope it would win. It does cost £125,000 more
It does not.
Price as tested:
LF-A $375 000
599 $396 000
http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezf...lication/977a05660e5c8064c42926d63c6e7888.pdf
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Because I don't think the price is particularly relevant. It is far closer in performance, specifications and purpose to the 458 than it is the 599.Why compare it to the 458 Italia? It's closest in price to the 599 and shares a similar layout.
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It is?
The LFA is front engined with a transaxle.
The 599 is front engined with a transaxle.
The 458 is mid-engined.
LFA weighs about 3600lbs
599 weighs about 3700lbs
458 weighs about 3300lbs
LFA - 0-60=3.6 / 0-100=7.6
599 - 0-60=3.4 / 0-100=7.0
458 - 0-60=3.3 / 0-100=6.9
LFA - £340k
599 - £207k
458 - £170k
They're all supercars so i don't see how they have differing purposes
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Meaningless.
Or, to be quite a bit more accurate:
LFA weighs about 3570lbs
458 weighs about 3450lbs
599 weighs over 3900lbs
Again:
LFA - 0-60=3.6 / 0-100=7.6
458 - 0-60=3.3 / 0-100=7.4
599 - 0-60=3.8 / 0-100=7.8
I already said that price isn't relevant, and those figures aren't even remotely accurate for this test anyways.
Here's some more specs:
Size:
LFA (L, W, H, WB) - 177 inches, 75 inches, 48 inches, 102.6 inches
458 (L, W, H, WB) - 178 inches, 76 inches, 48 inches, 104 inches
599 (L, W, H, WB) - 183 inches, 77 inches, 52 inches, 108 inches
Engine Displacement:
LFA - 4805cc
458 - 4497cc
599 - 5999cc
Because one is a nearly 4000 pound Aston Martin competitor based on a shortened 2+2 frame, and the other one is decidedly not. Plus the constant direct comparisons made in the text of the review about how close the LFA is to the 458 in "spirit."They're all supercars so i don't see how they have differing purposes
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Bollocks. 
All three are supercars, only differences are that two are front engined and one is mid engined, and two of them are flagship models.
All three are supercars, only differences are that two are front engined and one is mid engined, and two of them are flagship models.
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- 924
Honestly, in this price and performance bracket, no one cross-shops. You either have your mind set on a Ferrari or on the Lexus. All these comparisons are quite pointless IMHO. You can weigh each car's merit independently, but none of these were built solely to outdo their competitors.
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Who, from what I've read, is starting to lose his cred with the motoring world. A sad story, really... http://jalopnik.com/#!5781765/the-sultan-of-bruneis-rotting-supercar-collection
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Bump.
Surprised nobody has posted this yet.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/02/lexus-lfa-nurburgring-package-smashes-nordschliefe-production-re/
Surprised nobody has posted this yet.
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/09/02/lexus-lfa-nurburgring-package-smashes-nordschliefe-production-re/
Autoblog.com
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Too bad it couldn't stay that way, to be frank.
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Saw that early in the morning too, apparently Iida managed to shave 22 seconds of his previous best run. New tires? New suspension? Witchcraft?
Either way, I don't think that being faster than the already stupidly fast cars was the main appeal of the car in the first place, I still want one badly for the sound, design and exclusivity.
New tires? New suspension? Witchcraft? Either way, I don't think that being faster than the already stupidly fast cars was the main appeal of the car in the first place, I still want one badly for the sound, design and exclusivity.
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Yeah it will pass cause its not like the ring has been at the heart of german motorsports for the last 70+ years. And Im sure the manufacturers with r&d facilities will probably close them down. Likewise I expect to see the Fad fade with gran turismo because hats the only reason for the fad. Clearly the ring wasnt important for years and years before GT showed it to the kiddies.
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WHat does being at the "heart of german motorsport" have to do with it being used as a wang measuring stick?
This mfr nurb one-upsmanship only became mainstream in the last few years.
The facilities are there cause the ring is a good place to test many aspects of the car without having to travel to several places. They didn't put the facilities there just to have a car ready to go as soon as someone says they set a record.
Then there's the financial aspect.
This mfr nurb one-upsmanship only became mainstream in the last few years.
The facilities are there cause the ring is a good place to test many aspects of the car without having to travel to several places. They didn't put the facilities there just to have a car ready to go as soon as someone says they set a record.
Then there's the financial aspect.
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Some of what you said here is why the ring is not simply a measuring stick. More over, 70+ years means its only a fad to those who didnt know...
Simply said:
The ring is epic, the everest of motorsports and for that reason, measuring stick or not, is not something to be writen off as part of a fad.
None the less I understand the ad-nauseum.
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I'd rather have the LF-A than any current car. Although a standard one would suffice just fine I think.
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