PURE | JGTS - Going on strong and adapting in the face of change!

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Thanks! Well I was really slow before so it is only natural I'd improve a bit. 1:58.8 is still not fast, but at least it's decent.
 
So what's the thinking of reversing the grid order rather than the result? Another thing is if we had the race on 'reverse grid based on previous results' the order for the second heat for the formation lap would be sorted already.

I answered that on the previous page I think.
But basically, I want everything to be set before opening up the race lobby.
I do not trust the CPU to put us in the correct starting order.
Our possibility to communicate in lobby is rathere limited, so I want to reduce any form of miscommunication. And for the sake of keeping things as easy as possible for the hosts (who already have a huge responsibility), the reversed grid order is prefered in my book.

I agree, not sure why you guys picked reversing results for qualifying, but I think the best 1 would to reverse the final race result for people that have a bad race

Yes, while I agree, there's also the fact that the faster drivers that most likely will snatch the front grid slots are not as voundrable to a lower starting grid position.
Let's say Aderrrm set pole, and have a bad race or a DC for that matter, he'll be starting in the back of Heat 2, right?
On the other hand, if a slower driver qualis in the back, and DC or have a bad race, or claim a huge amount of positions he'll be starting in the front in Heat 2.
Bottom line, the 2 Heat idea was mainly because I wanted the slower drivers be able to start in the front, and to be given an opportunity to gain some bonus points.
Yes, the reversing of the raceresult will do this to some extint, but it will not help a slower driver ahead of a faster driver in case of a bad race 1 for the fatser one. I don't want this rule to act as a parashuit for a fast driver, I want it to act as a possibility to the slower driver.

That, in combination with the workload and possible trouble with the CPU/grid sorting on the host is something I really want to avoid.

So while I agree with you and Aderrrm, I still want to keep the possible troubles for the host to a minimum. I strongly believe that by streamlining everything as much as possible will put workload off the host. The more we can sort before race 1 here in the forum, the smoother experiance we'll all have in the lobby.
Any possible obstecles avoided is key imo.
So try and look at it from a hosts perspective.
After all, we are dealing with a fragile online lobby. That's what I base my decisions by.
If I saw an opportunity to cheat the system by doing a slow quali on purpose, I would not use this system. But that possibility is none imo.

In the end of the day, we all race under the same set of rules. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose.

Woohoo! Denilson, it worked tremendously well! Such a tiny change (from -0.08 to -0.20) and I improved my time by 1.3 seconds!! Of course, it's not just the change; probably knowing the car was faster gave me more confidence, and I had a wonderful last sector which I'm not sure I can ever do again. But what matters is that the car feels a lot better now.

I'll have to keep improving! 👍

I'm really glad it helped. Did you turn up your LSD acceleration as well? it wont help you as much as the rear toe setting, but it will prbably help you out of the corners a tad. If you feel like the rear want to slide when you floor it, try managing the throttlecontrol to deal with it. If it's still hard to control, just turn it down a tad, and go fromt here. 👍

Happy hunting! :cheers:

Got down to a 58.2.
The plus side is I have 4-5 58.2's, and I can see mid 57's whenever I get my act together.

Bob's breaking my Denso the other 120 miles right now. :)


Dennis/Eddie
Ballast/PP - Moving ballast f/r changes PP, I assume we're not allowed to add power if we move it forward, but can we reduce power to be able to move it rearward?

The Bhp and PL can not be changed at all. No matter where you put your ballast.
So if your car sits at 609 PP, that's what it have to be at when aero is maxed out. So you can move your ballast around anyway you want, but you can not exeed your PP. So you can perhaps move the ballast around from -50 to 27, but if the PP goes up a click at Ballast Position 28, you can not put the ballast there. This vary from car to car.
It's hard to police, but I strongly believe that we who are gathered here understand the importance of our gentlemens agreement.
But then again, if the host choose to go to track with a BHp check instead of a PP check, the sytem won't let you to track without entering your setupmenu.
I do undertstand that you're on about lowering your output, and that's def hard to police. Bottom line: Bhp / Power Band / Power Limiter can not be touched.

One possibility is to reduce your aero, and thru that move your ballast further to the back, that's fine. 👍
But you can never ever touch anything that have to do with your Powerband / Bhp / Power Limiter.
 
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I only touched the rear toe setting. The next step is turning up the LSD acceleration and see what happens! :)
 
I managed a 57.2 while practicing last night with CSL in the Stealth NSX and can see 56's for sure, however, she can bite :D

Yes, the NSX is crazy fast if you get it right.. My PB is 57,3 so far..

But as you said.. She bites.. HARD! :scared:

It's so funny, last night, TRP_NOSS told me he was 1 sec off my quali and that he sucked at Suzuka.. That would be 58,6ish.. Now, 24 hours later he pulls 57,0's and say he just can't get a clean lap in... Ehhhrrrmm.. Ok..

I got my eyes on you TRP_NOSS :odd: ;)
 
Very happy to have my top pick of the Takata NSX. Even happier to have such a quality teammate in Brock.

Great job - Dennis, Tim, Eddie, Dom:tup: Sounds like everyone got one of there top preferred cars. I had no idea it would work out that well. I would have been happy with anything in my top 12. All of the cars seemed extremely balanced, and it was a bit tough to decide which cars to pick.

As far as the Lexus. I am really not understanding the complaint. I had a Lexus as my #2 pick. I think the car is more than adequate, and if somebody wasn't a fan of the specs, there was no need to pick it.

Looks like it is going to be tough to get a good qualifying position for Sunday. Going to jump on in about an hour to see how far off the pace I am.

Bold move Dennis, qualifying so early. You set the bar early and high this week.👍

Looking forward to a great season!:)

:cheers:
 
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edit: down to 56.7
55 is very possible but then again its about the race.
 
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I don't think you're signed up for PURE.

Cause we went thru all car choices earlier today and I can't recall your name. Did you recieve an invitation?

I don't remember any PM, how do I get 1 of those setup?
 
I don't remember any PM, how do I get 1 of those setup?

JoeTruck.. This is an invitation only series. I think what Dennis is trying to tell you, is that if you didn't receive a Private Message inviting you to this series, then there is no way of joining the series.

Most of us also run in non-invitational series as well. Look around GTPlanet, there are many series to run that have open sign ups. Unfortunately this is one of the rare, invitation only series.

We thought it would be fun this series to run only with people we know to be fast and clean. That by no means infers that you are not all of the above. It just makes it sooo much easier for the admins to run the series without having to constantly try to determine which drivers need some "advice" on driving techniques.

The good news, is, that there will very likely be another invitation only series in the future. The admins have an uncanny ability to find the clean and fast drivers throughout GTP. If you show yourself to be active, and clean in other series, your chance of getting these invitations will go way up.

:cheers:
 
I don't want this rule to act as a parachute for a fast driver, I want it to act as a possibility to the slower driver.
Well it's also a help for faster drivers that make mistakes on qualifying, to which I have no issue with.
Either way is fine with me, but I will say this - I've never actually seen the grid order get screwed up by the "reverse start" feature. Plus the added benefit of giving dc's a front seat seems like a possible good to come from it also.

But like I said, I have no issue doing either, just saying I think both are easy options.
 
Well it's also a help for faster drivers that make mistakes on qualifying, to which I have no issue with.
Either way is fine with me, but I will say this - I've never actually seen the grid order get screwed up by the "reverse start" feature. Plus the added benefit of giving dc's a front seat seems like a possible good to come from it also.

But like I said, I have no issue doing either, just saying I think both are easy options.

I've also never seen the 'reverse' grid get messed up. Everyone has so little faith in GT5. :sly:
 
JoeTruck.. This is an invitation only series. I think what Dennis is trying to tell you, is that if you didn't receive a Private Message inviting you to this series, then there is no way of joining the series.

since its on topic, I received a pm for this series and asked to be put on the reserve drivers list. wardez sent me the pm about the series, just can't fully commit to it as I'm still busy with other series for a few more weeks and would gladly drive in any of the customer cars when I can make a race.
 
since its on topic, I received a pm for this series and asked to be put on the reserve drivers list. wardez sent me the pm about the series, just can't fully commit to it as I'm still busy with other series for a few more weeks and would gladly drive in any of the customer cars when I can make a race.

You're on the reserves list. 👍

Customer Cars:
Nissan WOODONE ADVAN CLARION GT-R
Nissan STEALTH GT500 GT-R
Honda STEALTH GT500 NSX
Honda EPSON NSX
Lexus ENEOS SC430

Specs that your car is supposed to be tuned to are in the OP, Post 2. 👍
 
You're on the reserves list. 👍

Customer Cars:
Nissan WOODONE ADVAN CLARION GT-R
Nissan STEALTH GT500 GT-R
Honda STEALTH GT500 NSX
Honda EPSON NSX
Lexus ENEOS SC430

Specs that your car is supposed to be tuned to are in the OP, Post 2. 👍

sweet thx, I've read the op over a few times at least while its been updated. 👍 Just wanted to say I really like the specs and its all well organized, I can only imagine the work that was put into it.
 
Just thought I'd share some photos I had..

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haha.. No, I think it's Paginas actually.. Or XsApollo (GTF_Apollo now I think) during the WSGTC 1 pre season..

Yea, should be XsApollo... or Pag.. :lol:

TAKATA would be faqoldschool, me in the MOTUL and C-Falcon89 in the RAYBRIG IIRC..
 
I wanna make a habit out of stewards posting in this thread that they're available for qualifying. Just as soon as any of the stewards are around the house or their PS3's and able to observe someone's qualifying session simply post here that you're checking by simply saying, " Wardez checking in, available to qualify for about the next four hours."

Also, this doesn't mean I'll have a room open the whole time, it just means that I'm near enough my PS3 that if someone was wanting to qualifying during the time I made myself available I could easily start one up.

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So yeah, Wardez checking in, available to qualify for about the next four hours.
 
Hey nissman!

Yeah dude, races on Sunday 18:00 GMT. You're more than welcome to join our reserve driver ranks. You're incredibly fast and clean 👍

I'm sure most of us would attest to that.
 
Thx Wardez, heard good things about you to. 👍

Well, I cant really commit to Sundays, but here and there I can. So yea, you can put me on reserve list.
 
Dennis checking in.

Available to hold quali sessions from now and 8 hours forth. 12.00 PM (GMT) - 20.00 PM (GMT)
 
Hi Wardez (and the rest of the drivers in PURE JGTS).

3D3 Racing is hosting and promoting a friendly single race challenge between the various current GTPlanet GT500 leagues. The idea is to have up to four individual GT500 leagues on GTPlanet send 3-4 drivers to compete against drivers from other leagues in a single race event. Team points will be earned, and a league winner crowned, based on the finishing position of the top 3 drivers on each team.

See our thread in the "interest checks" forum and leave a message if you and/or any of the drivers in your the series are interested. We've already got commitments from a couple series and would love it if your series would be willing to send 3-4 drivers to represent you. Car choice and grid spots are on a first come first serve basis.

You don't have to commit to any specific drivers at this point and the ultimate choice of which and how many drivers would represent your series would be completely up to your series (and probably to a great extent scheduling).

This is just a one time "fun" event and no further commitment expected/required. Regulations are simple and cars homologized so they are not a factor. The biggest challenge will of course be scheduling a time that works for all drivers, but we'll do our best and given it's just a single event and not an ongoing commitment I think we can pull it off.

Thanks,

GTP_WRP001 / Tim

PS> Thanks for the PM Eddie. I know you guys are interested and just wanted to extend the formal invite on your thread! Great series you have, I'll be following all season.
 
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