Super GT/JGTC Shootout - 07/06 - Shootout Officially Finished!
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I've contemplated dropping out of GT500. I'll most definitely finish GT300. Whether I actually drop out of GT500 or not depends on how I'm feeling when I get home in a few hours.
I got hammered with assignments and a death in the past couple of days. I only had time to sign onto my PS3 long enough to collect daily log-in bonuses. I thought this was done as of midnight today (7 hours ago in my time zone), so I figured I already made a crappy impression on everyone by not even managing to finish one category of testing. Glad I decided to sign in anyways and see if NascarManiaco99 gave the word or not that it was done.
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I've finished posting the results if it's not too late. I left an apology note stating my resign from GT500 testing and how two tunes are missing in GT300. I'm so irresponsible... 
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Test results
5 laps with each car, no aids
Krenkmes Nomad Diablo GT1- 1:37.804
Very nice! I really love the behavior of this car, it drives smooth and is always easy to control; nicely balanced. The settings really tamed this car and it also doesn't snap when you go back on throttle. But the car is simply too heavy (also feels heavy as 🤬) and isn't really competitive. I can hardly tell where it loses the most, it's simply everywhere a bit, but if someone wants to drive a race with the lambo, try this tune! 👍
Ugabugazs Takata NSX 03- 1:36.602
POTENTIAL! It grips really really good, like Adrenalines one, but it is noticeable more aggressive and harder to drive. It tends to snap if you feel too safe.
It is very fast, but not the best for consistant times compared to the other entries. Not sure if it's just me.... The time is honestly too slow, I just didn't feel comfortable after only 5 laps, could be faster for sure.
Motor City Hamis Takata NSX 03- 1:36.707
Very good turn in, but the rear is a bit too loose. I feel less grip with this tune than with the others and the time mirrors this. It is not the easiest one to drive, although is doesn't really bite you. This tune might work better on very thight tracks, cause it has its main advantages in slow corners.
Adrenalines Takata NSX 03- 1:36.072
Surprise, surprise.....
This is just........wonderful! I must admit I completely fell in love with this tune, it always does what you expect and this with an incredible amount of efficience. It handles very neutral, never aggressive, is easy to control, has more than enough traction and it simply follows the lines you want. You're not steering, you're thinking!By far the best entry, congrats! Was by far the best entry, untill Geebaby came. O_o
XDesperado's Nomad Diablo GT1- ehhh......
The 🤬!
Why is downforce that low? It really kills the chances of this car. I must say it destroys the other cars on the straight (10km/h faster than the slowest), but it isn't worth it. It simply understeers way too much and struggles at the same time at corner exit due to a huge lack of traction. A bull, yes, but not one I'd like to ride.
To be fair, I think the downforce level doesn't make it compareable to the other entries. More testing with same aero numbers would be needed.
MrGrados Nomad Diablo GT1- 1:37.847
Feels heavy (the car is actually quit heavy). It doesn't drive as likely as Krenkmes Lambo. It is really snappy and hard to control at corner exit. It's more like a stop n go car..... I think. Tricky and not the best for consistant times.
The results are really close though.
Trackripper's Castrol TOM'S Supra- 1:37.819
Yes a Supra! NOOOO, why the '00 and not '97? - my thoughts
The main problem with this Supra is the lack of downforce..... here we go again.
+ Why is 6th gear that short? Why only a stage 1 turbo? This car is noticeable the slowest on the straight.
It's really sad, because.....
The car is actually fantastic! It is extremely easy to drive, absolutely stable at all times. You can smash the throttle and have nothing to fear. Great! Suspension and LSD feel really really good, love it!
Only the times aren't competitive.
CSLACR's Calsonic IMPUL R35- 1:36.510
GTR Powaaahh! Very nice! It feels very direct and has massive traction. I really like how it behaves at corner exit. Also well balanced, it doesn't really have big weak points.
Easy to drive, very fast and good for consistant times. My favourite beside of Adrenalines Takata.
Onboy's Honda Raybrig NSX '06 - 1:37.134
Ehm, yes......dislike....I'm sorry
It feels weird. As long as you drive careful it's actually quit good and quick, but don't overdrive it! The rear doesn't grip that well. Yes, it is a MR car, but I sadly can't see the advantages of this layout. They disappeared somehow......
And it is slow on the straights, not sure if it's the gearing or the car.
Not my favourite, it simply doesn't react like I want.
Geebaby's Takata NSX 03- 1:35.868
O_O No way! That was unexpected! I was already sure that Adrenalines tune made it, but then this tune came into my hands.
The tune is absolutely unspectacular. It is overall an incredibly smooth tune. The only thing I noticed is that it's a bit more aggressive at corner exit compared to Adrenalines tune.
I must say I'm surprised that it's faster than Adrenalines car........ his car felt faster and in a certain way more enjoyable. Maybe my driving, cause I tested it at another day? Or efficience in perfection? Don't know.....
Aaaarrrrrgghhh! Hard decisions to make today!
1. Adrenaline
2. Geebaby
3. CSLACR
4. Trackripper
5. Krenkme
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Damn Fuji, blame drag racing and blame drifting. Hate, haaaaate my times.
5 laps with each car, no aids
Krenkmes Nomad Diablo GT1- 1:37.804
Very nice! I really love the behavior of this car, it drives smooth and is always easy to control; nicely balanced. The settings really tamed this car and it also doesn't snap when you go back on throttle. But the car is simply too heavy (also feels heavy as 🤬) and isn't really competitive. I can hardly tell where it loses the most, it's simply everywhere a bit, but if someone wants to drive a race with the lambo, try this tune! 👍
Ugabugazs Takata NSX 03- 1:36.602
POTENTIAL! It grips really really good, like Adrenalines one, but it is noticeable more aggressive and harder to drive. It tends to snap if you feel too safe.
It is very fast, but not the best for consistant times compared to the other entries. Not sure if it's just me.... The time is honestly too slow, I just didn't feel comfortable after only 5 laps, could be faster for sure.Motor City Hamis Takata NSX 03- 1:36.707
Very good turn in, but the rear is a bit too loose. I feel less grip with this tune than with the others and the time mirrors this. It is not the easiest one to drive, although is doesn't really bite you. This tune might work better on very thight tracks, cause it has its main advantages in slow corners.
Adrenalines Takata NSX 03- 1:36.072
Surprise, surprise.....
This is just........wonderful! I must admit I completely fell in love with this tune, it always does what you expect and this with an incredible amount of efficience. It handles very neutral, never aggressive, is easy to control, has more than enough traction and it simply follows the lines you want. You're not steering, you're thinking!
XDesperado's Nomad Diablo GT1- ehhh......
The 🤬!
Why is downforce that low? It really kills the chances of this car. I must say it destroys the other cars on the straight (10km/h faster than the slowest), but it isn't worth it. It simply understeers way too much and struggles at the same time at corner exit due to a huge lack of traction. A bull, yes, but not one I'd like to ride.
To be fair, I think the downforce level doesn't make it compareable to the other entries. More testing with same aero numbers would be needed.
MrGrados Nomad Diablo GT1- 1:37.847
Feels heavy (the car is actually quit heavy). It doesn't drive as likely as Krenkmes Lambo. It is really snappy and hard to control at corner exit. It's more like a stop n go car..... I think. Tricky and not the best for consistant times.
The results are really close though.
Trackripper's Castrol TOM'S Supra- 1:37.819
Yes a Supra! NOOOO, why the '00 and not '97? - my thoughts
The main problem with this Supra is the lack of downforce..... here we go again.
+ Why is 6th gear that short? Why only a stage 1 turbo? This car is noticeable the slowest on the straight.
It's really sad, because.....
The car is actually fantastic! It is extremely easy to drive, absolutely stable at all times. You can smash the throttle and have nothing to fear. Great! Suspension and LSD feel really really good, love it!
Only the times aren't competitive.
CSLACR's Calsonic IMPUL R35- 1:36.510
GTR Powaaahh! Very nice! It feels very direct and has massive traction. I really like how it behaves at corner exit. Also well balanced, it doesn't really have big weak points.
Easy to drive, very fast and good for consistant times. My favourite beside of Adrenalines Takata.
Onboy's Honda Raybrig NSX '06 - 1:37.134
Ehm, yes......dislike....I'm sorry
It feels weird. As long as you drive careful it's actually quit good and quick, but don't overdrive it! The rear doesn't grip that well. Yes, it is a MR car, but I sadly can't see the advantages of this layout. They disappeared somehow......
And it is slow on the straights, not sure if it's the gearing or the car.
Not my favourite, it simply doesn't react like I want.
Geebaby's Takata NSX 03- 1:35.868
O_O No way! That was unexpected! I was already sure that Adrenalines tune made it, but then this tune came into my hands.
The tune is absolutely unspectacular. It is overall an incredibly smooth tune. The only thing I noticed is that it's a bit more aggressive at corner exit compared to Adrenalines tune.
I must say I'm surprised that it's faster than Adrenalines car........ his car felt faster and in a certain way more enjoyable. Maybe my driving, cause I tested it at another day? Or efficience in perfection? Don't know.....
Aaaarrrrrgghhh! Hard decisions to make today!
1. Adrenaline
2. Geebaby
3. CSLACR
4. Trackripper
5. Krenkme
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Damn Fuji, blame drag racing and blame drifting. Hate, haaaaate my times.
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Doc, I had full downforce on the Supra, so not quite sure what I can do to make more... 
The Stage 1 turbo was me being completely stupid and forgetting we had free use of power limiter.
Gears were that short since I thought it was best to preseve acceleration over top speed, guess it didn't work out.
Thanks for the feedback 👍
The Stage 1 turbo was me being completely stupid and forgetting we had free use of power limiter.
Gears were that short since I thought it was best to preseve acceleration over top speed, guess it didn't work out.Thanks for the feedback 👍
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I know, but this car has a lower maximum than the others: 35/60 to 40/65.Doc, I had full downforce on the Supra, so not quite sure what I can do to make more...
Btw, the 97 Supra has 50/70!!!
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I know, but it would mean me having to break it in, and to be honest, I couldn't be bothered, not when I had the '00 lying around
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I know, but it would mean me having to break it in, and to be honest, I couldn't be bothered, not when I had the '00 lying around
The '97 has the potential to beat the Takata.But ok, I see your thought.
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What can I say...told you all that I'm crazy and now I've gone and killed Doc in his return to the circuit...Score!
Thanks for the testing Doc hope they at least gave you a professional discount at the hospital.
Thanks for the testing Doc hope they at least gave you a professional discount at the hospital.
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Like I said, I tuned it because you were showing up. I never said I tuned it for you.
I just know you don't like understeer so I thought "sod it, I'll show you what happens on the other end of the spectrum". Anyway, the blue bugger was hardly the fastest to begin with, but quite how you're still alive I really don't know.
Dammit, my plan to kill doc has failed must try harder next time then.
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SureLike I said, I tuned it because you were showing up. I never said I tuned it for you.
Anyway, the blue bugger was hardly the fastest to begin with, but quite how you're still alive…I really don't know.
Dammit, my plan to kill doc has failed…must try harder next time then.
The problem is, like I said, you didn't really make it less understeering. Only a bit more..... aggressive. But hey, it definitely wasn't the worst car.
Ehm well, I'm sorry. I guess my review isn't that useful.
I almost died, yes, but just almost.....
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done
Don't forget your top 5 list for point reasons.
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And with dr_slump results, I can officialy say that my shootout has been finished! Now I gotta do the points and send the prizes. I try to post the winners today, tomorrow the latest. Had a pretty tough and busy day, so that's why I might post them tomorrow.
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Test results
5 laps with each car, no aids
Geebaby's Takata NSX 03- 1:35.868
O_O No way! That was unexpected! I was already sure that Adrenalines tune made it, but then this tune came into my hands.
The tune is absolutely unspectacular. It is overall an incredibly smooth tune. The only thing I noticed is that it's a bit more aggressive at corner exit compared to Adrenalines tune.
I must say I'm surprised that it's faster than Adrenalines car........ his car felt faster and in a certain way more enjoyable. Maybe my driving, cause I tested it at another day? Or efficience in perfection? Don't know.....
Aaaarrrrrgghhh! Hard decisions to make today!
1. Adrenaline
2. Geebaby
3. CSLACR
4. Trackripper
5. Krenkme
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Damn Fuji, blame drag racing and blame drifting. Hate, haaaaate my times.
Adrenaline more evolution under brake and wheel ,more sharp overall.
Geebaby more steady line ,smooth and good out corner exit.
I'm crazy to drive those cars to see by myself, but by the comments of the testers ,this is how they define the 2 cars.
It' a very good oportunity to check why so close settings react so different.
For me the clue stay in the RED settings values
Here is the]praiano63/Geebaby takata entry.
500HP
1170KG
LSD
Initial: 6
Acceleration: 14
Braking: 9
Suspension
Ride Height: -12/-12
Spring Rate: 14.8/15.8
Dampers (Extension): 9/8
Dampers (Compression): 7/4
Anti-Roll Bars: 5/6
Camber Angle: 2.5/2.0
Toe Angle: -0.03/0.18
Brakes
6/5
Adrenaline takata tune
500HP
1170KG
LSD
Initial: 6
Acceleration: 11
Braking: 7
Suspension
Ride Height: 0/1
Spring Rate: 14.8/15.8
Dampers (Extension): 10/6
Dampers (Compression): 6/5
Anti-Roll Bars: 6/4
Camber Angle: 2.0/1.5
Toe Angle: -0.25/-0.08
Brakes
10/8
I need my wheel ><(((((°>°°°°°°°°°°°°°°
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For me, the big difference between the 2 cars was entering corners. Adrenaline's will bring the rear out at will through downshifting and trail-braking, whereas Geebaby's version is difficult to break the rear loose at all.Adrenaline more evolution under brake and wheel ,more sharp overall.
Geebaby more steady line ,smooth and good out corner exit.
I'm crazy to drive those cars to see by myself, but by the comments of the testers ,this is how they define the 2 cars.
It' a very good oportunity to check why so close settings react so different.
For me the clue stay in the RED settings values
Here is the]praiano63/Geebaby[/B] takata entry.
500HP
1170KG
LSD
Initial: 6
Acceleration: 14
Braking: 9
Suspension
Ride Height: -12/-12
Spring Rate: 14.8/15.8
Dampers (Extension): 9/8
Dampers (Compression): 7/4
Anti-Roll Bars: 5/6
Camber Angle: 2.5/2.0
Toe Angle: -0.03/0.18
Brakes
6/5
Adrenaline takata tune
500HP
1170KG
LSD
Initial: 6
Acceleration: 11
Braking: 7
Suspension
Ride Height: 0/1
Spring Rate: 14.8/15.8
Dampers (Extension): 10/6
Dampers (Compression): 6/5
Anti-Roll Bars: 6/4
Camber Angle: 2.0/1.5
Toe Angle: -0.25/-0.08
Brakes
10/8
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The high level of negative front toe on Adrenaline's made it more difficult for me to maximize steering angle as well, though I'm sure it helps the DS3 users.
My guesstimate is Adrenaline's is .2-.4 faster on hot lapping, but harder to get a perfect lap in with the trail-braking over-steer for me.
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Thanks DOC for taking the time to test our entry. I must say I am as surprised as you are that it did a better time than Adrenaline's car. I am really happy that you liked it and enjoyed driving it which was my goal in this shootout.
I must say thank you to praiano63 for even considering lending me his name and tune to start with. Nuff respect to you sir( in my Jamaican voice).
Thank you to Nascar and all of the other's, CSL, Onboy, Ripper, Krenkme, XD, Roj, Jackthalad,MrGrado, Ugabugaz, Adrenaline, Hami, Doc, smrtb0mb, Niop, Bolverk-GTM, DigitalBaka and all the other guys and girls. You really made me feel like I am part of something and showed me a different way to enjoy this game and forum.
Bigup to all of you. I will continue to support all of your garages when I play online.
I must say thank you to praiano63 for even considering lending me his name and tune to start with. Nuff respect to you sir( in my Jamaican voice).
Thank you to Nascar and all of the other's, CSL, Onboy, Ripper, Krenkme, XD, Roj, Jackthalad,MrGrado, Ugabugaz, Adrenaline, Hami, Doc, smrtb0mb, Niop, Bolverk-GTM, DigitalBaka and all the other guys and girls. You really made me feel like I am part of something and showed me a different way to enjoy this game and forum.
Bigup to all of you. I will continue to support all of your garages when I play online.
No. Your car is not getting good drive out of slow speed, tight turns. Lets say I'm changing to third at 8k RPM, the car will hang at 7k RPM for a moment while the wheel(s) and/or driveline is slipping. It only happens when the car is pushed hard and I can't be sure it negatively effects lap speed much or at all, but I have a personal preference for cars no to do this. I have also noticed this only happens with cars with light LSD tuning and that it can be simply fixed by increasing initial and/or accel settings.
I didn't notice this happen on the pranio/geebaby entry, so either my driving wasn't consistent, or the condition was masked/remidied with suspension sttings.
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