List taken down (Reasons?)

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Edit2: Looks like i was right all along folkshttp://www.gamersyde.com/stream_gran_turismo_5_gamescom_damages-12436_en.html

Edit: Read my post, post 74 page 3 to clarrify what they all mean as there has been some confusion about the poll options before you vote please.:cheers:
WARNING, just my oppinion but i think valid enough points to deserve its own thread.

I think that list is wrong for a few reasons.

It says 170 premium new models(interior/damage), but thing is, there are cars in prologue that arn't new models and were seen in GT4 and they have cockpit.. Following this line off reasoning it would be reasonable to assume that therefore they must be part of the other 830 which apparently don't have cockpits, even though these cars do.

Secondly why would they consider the cappucino premium and model its interior.

Thirdly Kazunori said a while back the game is pretty much ''complete'', well if 830 models are still unfinished i doubt he would have said that.

Fourthly also the whole thing just won't work properly online, if some cars can be damaged and others can't

Fifthly if Kaz was going to allow certain cars in game not to be damaged then i am sure Ferrari would want to be included in that, yet Ferrari is new and therefore according to the list Premium, should have damage, and already has a cockpit

Sixthly why would they take the list down

My view is these Premium cars are race cars, hence why we were told in the R8 interview only race cars will have damage, but everyone was like it's probably wrong. The only damage in the E3 trailer was on a race car. Limiting damage to race cars will avoid the problem of manufacturers not wanting their car damaged in game. Having damage to race cars won't be as big a problem online, because the only races with damage enabled will be racecar only races.

I beleive all cars will have interior, but racecars will have interior and damage, i beleive this is what the list tryed to convey but a slight error was made making people think only cars with damage will have interior. This way i think the term the game is complete can be considered appropriate, Kaz wouldn't half ass anything.

I think what the list should have said was not ''interior corresponds to damage'' but rather the ''interior responds to damage''. Meaning the premium cars with damage, there interiors can also be damaged. This i believe is where the confusion lies and is the reason why we were told only racecars will have damage some time ago, also why the list has being taken down, because it needs correcting.

This all makes sense to me.
 
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Why 'WARNING' ?! lol

I don't think it's the list that's 'wrong' (as you put it), but the simple fact that you misunderstand the points it makes. As we all do.

Why don't you just relax, have a break from the whole GT thing for 24 hrs, and check back once the Japanese has been officially translated and clarified. No doubt when you return, you'll have that whole "oh, that makes more sense" feeling.

Most of your points (which essentially relate to the poor translation of the Japanese news) have been covered in numerous other threads on here.
 
HAHA..

It does not specify anything if STANDARD MODEL will have damage or not, ( I bet they will)
- For the 170 Premium new models it creally specifys that DAMAGE will be in INTERIOR.

-It does not specify if we get STANDARD MODEL cockpits in lower resolution or not...

- When it talks about PHYSICAL DAMAGE, it does not specify any car or cars, or Standard or premium, or moon or earth... It states physical simulation of vehicles, So that has to mean ALL!
 
HAHA..

It does not specify anything if STANDARD MODEL will have damage or not, ( I bet they will)
- For the 170 Premium new models it creally specifys that DAMAGE will be in INTERIOR.

-It does not specify if we get STANDARD MODEL cockpits in lower resolution or not...

- When it talks about PHYSICAL DAMAGE, it does not specify any car or cars, or Standard or premium, or moon or earth... It states physical simulation of vehicles, So that has to mean ALL!

What do you mean? It has damage under the subheading premium
 
What do you mean? It has damage under the subheading premium

I don't know how you see it.. it's as clear as day... it specifies DAMAGE as a new bulletin. The only EXTRA damage for Premium cars is the interior damage, READ, and don't make pre mature threads stating things without 100% clear English translated by PD website.

Gran Turismo 5 has been announced! Here is the latest information on the game design:

■ models included
1,000 vehicles
170 Premium new models (full interior modeling, the interior corresponds to vehicle damage)
830 kinds of standard model (some are from Gran Turismo 4 that have been carried over to GT5) [Read: Cars we have seen in GT4 before ]

■ Courses
60 courses confirmed with 20 or more to be revealed

■ physical simulation of vehicles
Physics system simulation is brand new
Represented is full fall in vehicles [possibly rollover]
Damage representation (reproduced in full by real-time collision deformation)
faithfully reproducing the behavior of electric cars, i.e. Prius, Insight, hybrid cars and the latest Tesla model
 
Ok, after reading the list again. The heading that contains the premium new models is "models included." Seems to say the interior is fully modeled, and has damage. Doesn't mention outside damage. The heading which reads "physical simulation of vehicles" doesn't mention this premium thing again. Looks to me like damage all around, just my opinion, though.
 
@ first i read it as 170 will have damage to the interior. but the other cars will not have damage to the interior, but will have damage for every were else
 
This is the phrase i find confusing:
170 Premium new models (full interior modeling, the interior corresponds to vehicle damage)

It can be deciphered in a few ways
 
@ first i read it as 170 will have damage to the interior. but the other cars will not have damage to the interior, but will have damage for every were else
That's what it sounds like to me. The 170 "premium" seem to only differentiate by interior. Sounds like all cars will have damage, cause nothing was mentioned about the premium models under the physics heading which the collision damage was talked about.
 
This is the phrase i find confusing:
170 Premium new models (full interior modeling, the interior corresponds to vehicle damage)

It can be deciphered in a few ways
It doesn't seem like it has anything to do with collision damage, though. At least that's how I view it.
 
I guess we will just have to wait and see. I still have a different oppinion to people here. And some people here have a different oppinion to each other.
 
Possible explainations on why list was taken down:

- PD's dog ate it
- Someone got tired in Japan n typed non-sense
- Japanese was typed using Google translator...so it didnt make much sense...
- Forza fanboys ate it
- Kim Jong Il got confused by it too and told PD to take it off
- Skynet took it off
- Its not a real list, only a glitch in the Matrix
- The list took itself off since it tried to understand itself thru google translator
- PD translator said "uhhhh" after reading the list
- KY ate it

chill guys, just imagine the possibilities.
 
I mean why would they have said in the R8 interview a while back that only racecars were to have damage. I believe these premium cars are racecars. And the wording was meant to say the racecars that have damage, there interiors can also be damaged.
 
To keep it a surprise for even longer. They give us a splash of info, then empty the pool, so we're even more exited the day of the swim meet.
 
Ambiguity, GT5 and PD go hand in hand. Here's to releasing accurate info and here's to some more confusing news tomorrow!
 
To keep it a surprise for even longer. They give us a splash of info, then empty the pool, so we're even more exited the day of the swim meet.

because there's going to be a lot of bikinis and tamel coes...
 
HAHA..

It does not specify anything if STANDARD MODEL will have damage or not, ( I bet they will)
- For the 170 Premium new models it creally specifys that DAMAGE will be in INTERIOR.

-It does not specify if we get STANDARD MODEL cockpits in lower resolution or not...

- When it talks about PHYSICAL DAMAGE, it does not specify any car or cars, or Standard or premium, or moon or earth... It states physical simulation of vehicles, So that has to mean ALL!

By this logic it would mean all cars have damage but only premium have interior.
Again why would the Cappucino be considered premium?

Edit: I doubt they would still model interior of standard but in lower quality
 
By this logic it would mean all cars have damage but only premium have interior.
Again why would the Cappucino be considered premium?

Premium as in better detail on cars, GT4 had 8 pixels compared to gazillion pixalated GT5P, Even tho it's suzuki a very cheap and reasonable car, it still has very high detail compared to GT4 Garage mode.

I don't know why PD close down that page and list, maybe they update it? or too soon? hehe


By the way, GT4 models.. Hmm I bet it will have to be upgraded to 1080p and bit of HD, more smooth, and bit nicer finish, so they will look like GT4 GARAGE style just in better definition and detail, but not as good as GT5P cars..
 
Premium as in better detail on cars, GT4 had 8 pixels compared to gazillion pixalated GT5P, Even tho it's suzuki a very cheap and reasonable car, it still has very high detail compared to GT4 Garage mode.

I don't know why PD close down that page and list, maybe they update it? or too soon? hehe

You are missinterpreting what i was saying. I was trying to say, why would the consider the Cappucino as a car fit for being modelled in premium as opposed to standard. Why would they model the interior of the cappucino but not of another 830 cars in the game?
 
You are missinterpreting what i was saying. I was trying to say, why would the consider the Cappucino as a car fit for being modelled in premium as opposed to standard. Why would they model the interior of the cappucino but not of another 830 cars in the game?

Edit: You see how things can be interpreted differently?

Damn DP
 
I think its possible that someone hacked the official website and posted FAKE INFOS about GT5. And it took a while for PD to notice it and took it down.
 
I mean why would they have said in the R8 interview a while back that only racecars were to have damage. I believe these premium cars are racecars. And the wording was meant to say the racecars that have damage, there interiors can also be damaged.
The premium models only mention interior things, but the physics heading talks about exterior damage and makes no mention of the premium models.
 
You are missinterpreting what i was saying. I was trying to say, why would the consider the Cappucino as a car fit for being modelled in premium as opposed to standard. Why would they model the interior of the cappucino but not of another 830 cars in the game?

Because it's a cheap and reasonable car for the masses, why not.. GT is all about Car Bible, introducing the strongest and the weakest, So why not have nice HD car that is one of the slowest? Heck, I enjoy the Cappuccino, especially I can't wait to tune it up to the max just to beat a stock corolla. ; ) haha it going to be fuN!
 
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