List taken down (Reasons?)

[dancardesigner]

Where is the "Only premium models will have damage and an interior" option?

Yes good point, also there was another i forgot

E)All cars have interior, but only premium have damage but their interiors can't be damaged.

Anyway, this is the kind of level of damage i want, or better

 

[McLaren]

Yes good point, also there was another i forgot

E)All cars have interior, but only premium have damage but their interiors can't be damaged.

Anyway, this is the kind of level of damage i want, or better

God, no. I've seen that before & it's still highly exaggerated....

 

[Blackbird.]

What is that video? Just some 3D modeling?

 

[dancardesigner]

God, no. I've seen that before & it's still highly exaggerated....

Yeah, and the panels need to be more fixed and less brittle, but what i was getting at was the amount of bits that can break and fall off, the whole car is damageable and panels rip and bend.
Anyway i don't think it would be too far off if you hammered over the corkscrew at laguna secca at 200mph in your F1 car without braking.

 

[Peter]

Indeed, and no production car in the world that can travel at that speed will break apart like it's bounded with string.

 

[dancardesigner]

 

[Blackbird.]

Are you not talking about production cars? You're comparing it to a Pro Stock?

 

[SrRd RacinG]

Today's posting of information was beyond ridiculously ambiguous. Information of that quantity and importance really should be handled with care. And it was not. Hopefully, later today, things are straightened out and maybe we'll be able to check out some videos of the game being played!

 

[Peter]

Yes I meant production car, mind my mistake.

 

[dancardesigner]

Look at this lucky get

 

[RedBaron]

What about those steering wheels in the hall? Could we see some GT5 gameplay finally?

 

[Blackbird.]

Yes I meant production car, mind my mistake.

I was referring to the NHRA video posted.

 

[dancardesigner]

I was referring to the NHRA video posted.

That's why you should refresh your page before you type

 

[Blackbird.]

That's why you should refresh your page before you type

What are you talking about?

 

[dancardesigner]

What are you talking about?

I meant to direct that at PJ but since you quoted him i just quoted you instead lol

 

[reece22345]

Yeah cars do disintegrate....

Just look at the NASCAR crash this year that killed Carlos Pardo in Mexico.

All that was left was the rollcage all twisted.

Here is a link and just a warning. The driver did die so don't watch if you can't handle that kind of thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b036OYyiwoc

 

[dancardesigner]

Yeah cars do disintegrate....

Just look at the NASCAR crash this year that killed Carlos Pardo in Mexico.

All that was left was the rollcage all twisted.

Here is a link and just a warning. The driver did die so don't watch if you can't handle that kind of thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b036OYyiwoc

Yeah, i remember that, thing just exploded, stupid concrete blocks

 

[TofuStoreDrift]

"If" only 170 cars are modelled with interiors and damage, does that mean Forza 3 will 1up PD with 400 cars? After playing GT5P for the last 1 1/2 years with using nothing but the interior view, it would be extremely hard for me to go back to bumper cam. I really hope dancardesigner vote is right, or I'll very disappointed in PD's so-called finished game.

 

[dancardesigner]

"If" only 170 cars are modelled with interiors and damage, does that mean Forza 3 will 1up PD with 400 cars? After playing GT5P for the last 1 1/2 years with using nothing but the interior view, it would be extremely hard for me to go back to bumper cam. I really hope dancardesigner vote is right, or I'll very disappointed in PD's so-called finished game.

Well if you go with my theory that the premium cars are race cars, and only they have damage but all cars have interiors then i think Kaz could class that as technically finished, which was one of the reasons that made me come to my decision, all be it a minor one.

 

[kekke2000]

I think it's like this. Race cars have damage, regular cars dont. No interior damage.

 

[paulpg87]

Imo the only possible is C.

 

[marky5244]

Maybe an announcement was cancelled in the press conference because of the internet problems that there seemed to be there. Does anyone know if KY is at Gamescon? Maybe they were planning a video feed from Japan with him? Just speculating...

 

[Custer85]

I think it got taken down, because they made a mistake and released the wrong bits of Info. I guess they wanted to release the GT Mobile News with the PSP but mixed up the two GT games. I know its hard to believe, that the company that makes the two games might actually be confused wich one was the one they wanted to release info about, but i guess it was just some kind of public releations guy who had a bad day or something and messed it up.

I think the 830 Cars are not form GT4, but from GT Mobile and the 170 additional cars are race cars from the WRC and NASCAR and maybe some 3rd Championship they will announce at TGS. I guess it might be the official JGTC. I know 170 cars is a lot, but maybe they feature the new cars and some older ones from previous championships, so hopefully the Group B from WRC.

The googletranslator just created more rumors than it actually helped to translate the website. I wish Kaz whould have entered the stage at GamesCom together with his translator guy to tell us what we wanted to know. Now all we have is some badly translated feature list and people asking for confirmation.

 

[zaebos]

let´s see...
if 800 cars are just "taken" from the gt4... there is no reason to put "only" 16 cars at same time on the circuit, they could put 160 if they want to.... so then, i think than ALL cars in gt5 are modeled like GT5P... and, every car model has interiors...
About damage: We knew it (or suspect), only race cars will have "full" damage.

 

[Blackbird.]

Bottom line is: Regardless of the speculation we'll (hopefully) get some answers today, no?

 

[dancardesigner]

let´s see...
if 800 cars are just "taken" from the gt4... there is no reason to put "only" 16 cars at same time on the circuit, they could put 160 if they want to.... so then, i think than ALL cars in gt5 are modeled like GT5P... and, every car model has interiors...
About damage: We knew it (or suspect), only race cars will have "full" damage.

You are completly missunderstanding. When it says taken, it means the same models appeared in GT4, not literally though. That would be just dumb.

 

[Domski]

Bottom line is: Regardless of the speculation we'll (hopefully) get some answers today, no?

I for one wish so, and I am sure that many others will agree.

 

[zaebos]

You are completly missunderstanding. When it says taken, it means the same models appeared in GT4, not literally though. That would be just dumb.

i know... and that is the reason of my post.
... but... arrr.. my english is not quite good, then there is a lot of things that i cannot explain as i want to.

 

[whatis]

My thoughts:

All cars will be able to be damaged in a way that effects the cars performance. This damage will also be represented visually on the exterior of all cars (rollovers included).

Race cars/nascars will be the only cars to visually show interior damage, my reason for thinking this is the fact that I have seen licensed road cars being damaged in other games such as Forza and Race Driver: GRID after hearing for so long that car manufacturers wouldn't allow this to happen.

This makes me think that they might be okay nowadays with showing external damage to their road cars as long as it never shows the driver/cockpit as being unsafe.

If PD are only interested in showing realistic damage as they have often said, then of course these parameters would be unacceptable to them. I think that being able to show external and internal damage to race cars/nascars (aka full damage) might be their compromise.

Following this train of thought - all cars should have interior modeling seeing as though the majority of cars in Prologue aren't race cars yet they also include interior modeling.

On the other hand we have the fact that GT5: Prologue released after roughly two years of development with around 70 cars. Can we really expect PD to have modeled both the exteriors and interiors of another 930 cars, in another 2 years?

If I am being honest - my first theory, while possible, is based largely on what I am hoping this information means.

I would have to say that it is far more likely that they have only modeled the interior of around 170 cars. I mean, they haven't been focusing on just adding/modeling more cars since Prologue's release have they? With all of the other stuff they've obviously been working on.. I would have to put my money (not much though) on B.

 

[angelacaine]

Let me break it down. The line in question was this:

・170種類のプレミアムモデル(内装、ダメージに対&#24540

First, 170 premium models. In brackets we have two separate clauses. ENTIRELY separate. The way the Japanese language works is that if they are related there is some kind of particle there to define the relationship.

So, 内装. What does it mean? It's only one word, so a simple dictionary lookup will suffice here. Try jisho.org or copy and paste into WWWJDIC. This word refers to interior style or decoration. In this context, it can be understood to refer to the models of the interior of the cabin of the car.

Second, ダメージに対応. Here we have two words joined by a particle, に. The first word, ダメージ, is merely a Japanicised version of the English word 'damage'. The second word, 対応, doesn't correspond well with any single English word. The best fit word I would choose in this situation would be 'supports', as in 'The PS3 supports Blu-ray playback'. に is a simple particle relating the two together, and implies no additional information other than the relationship.

So in summary we have 170 cars which have modelled interiors, and support damage. The implication is obviously that the other cars do NOT have interiors or damage support, but that's up for discussion. What's not up for discussion is what the Japanese site said. There are times when the translation from Japanese to English can be difficult, but this is not one of them. It's very clear what is meant.

I'd go through the 830 one as well, but I think that's enough elementary Japanese lessons for today.