I have an Idea, what do you think?

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I have a plan...
Originally I was going to set up a sub-division of my tuning garage, Vengence tuning

The purpose of this "Sub-division" was to make Street tunes only.

My definition of Street tune being a car that you would see driving around your Town/City/Highway, ect.

What I want to know, is, are there any other tuning garages/tuners that would be willing to share one thread (I.E. this one) to post there tunes to a set Perimeter?

This Perimeter would be as follows, and for the reasons written alongside.


Performance parts to be fitted:

Sports Exhaust- A common modification seen on many, many street cars

Sports Cat- Or in the real world perhaps also a De-Cat pipe?

Sports ECU- Again this could be a engine Re-map or superchip, Common on real street cars

Sports height adjustable Suspension- Most similar to a street legal Coil-over set up

Sports Soft Tyres- Maybe like Toyo Proxies or F1 Eagles perhaps?

Engine Overhaul and oil change but NO CHASSIS OVERHAUL- A used car will most likely have its engine replaced/rebuilt, but not a chassis, not on a street car anyway.


Now, I must stress this is not meant to in any way be a competition or challenge, think of it more as a directory for Street legal, realistic cars that have been tuned to a moderate, and in real life common level.

I, for example have just tuned the BMW M3 CSL, its great :)


So, what do you think?
Please, keep things civil, this is just an idea at this stage and I will gladly listen to all HELPFULL advice and idea's.

Would love to make this happen :dopey:
 
I have signed up just to post in this thread, I would love for this to happen.
I appreciate all the 'max' tunes but want to drive cars that are realisticly powered, I race against friends with imposed restrictions on weight, power and tyres and it is difficult to sort cars that are not identical to make it fun.
I also find myself snapping up all the tuning house cars like Nismos', Mugens aned Spoons from the UCD for the same reasons so I would love to see this ideal take off.
 
Good idea. I've a lot to learn before I'd be able to contribute, but my buds and I would certainly take advantage of such builds. We already do something similar...

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Any opinions from other tuners?

I'd really like to know what the tuners think about this. I myself think it's a good idea.
 
Street tune is going to be more accustomed to Comfort Soft or Sport Hard... Sport Soft is a little generous in comparison to your other restrictions. There's already a similar thread in one of the main sub-forums for 50k credit limit tunes which is more along the lines you are talking here.
 
Street tune is going to be more accustomed to Comfort Soft or Sport Hard... Sport Soft is a little generous in comparison to your other restrictions. There's already a similar thread in one of the main sub-forums for 50k credit limit tunes which is more along the lines you are talking here.

The reason I choose sport soft tyres is because whenever I see a "Street" tune from any of the tuners here they all seem to run on said tyres.

I also note in another thread that you yourself are a fan of the old Soft's 👍

Haven't seen the thread you mentioned though, will look out for it.
 
Lol, well I think its good to experience both sides of the coin...in this game you can go mad and make your car crazy fast and powerfull, which is great and a big part of the game.
But then its also good to drive a more realistic car.

I will be going ahead with my tuning, the point of this thread was to see if there are any other tuners planning on doing the same thing, if so, we can just form a directory on one simple thread for those seeking more "realistic" tune
 
The reason I choose sport soft tyres is because whenever I see a "Street" tune from any of the tuners here they all seem to run on said tyres.

I also note in another thread that you yourself are a fan of the old Soft's 👍

Haven't seen the thread you mentioned though, will look out for it.

Yeah, I do tend go with track ready Sport Soft setups with additional horsepower and weight reductions putting it over street tune value threshold, imo. I read street tune, I'm not opposed to the idea, but I'm considering what might be the real expenditure of someone looking to street tune in real life.

Budget Car Challenge
 
A few of my fanfic cars are actually tuned this way. It gets them into character, so to speak. I'd be happy to contribute in the thread. Is the performance parts list final? I'd like to suggest a few extra parts.

- Weight reduction stage 1 - Anyone can remove seats and interior trim out of a road car, which is what stage 1 weight reduction simulates.
- Carbon bonnet - Very popular modification.
- Sports air filter - Compliments the sports exhaust.
- Single plate clutch - Boosting power and not upgrading the clutch is a recipe for disaster in real life.
- Comfort soft tyres - For cars under 250bhp. Anything over should be on sports soft.
 
Already in the works at GME. ;) Of the 30+ cars I will be launching (yes, you did read that right, 30 cars in one hit!), I have dedicated about 20% of them to tunes that you would put in your "street" category. Some of them have been purpose built for specific A-spec events (such as the Easy & Intermediate rally events) while others are factory rebirths from my GT4 tunes such as my Clubsport R8 tune (SS Commodore '04, done up to HSV specs of 285Kw) which are being brought into the GT5 world.
 
Carbon bonnet seems somewhat overpriced in this game, do they really cost that much? I have a carbon fiber/titanium racing bicycle that only costs $5k as the complete setup, that's a hell of a lot more work to put together than to fuse a few layers of carbon composite together in a relatively flat molded shape to match the original cars hood.
 
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Carbon bonnet seems somewhat overpriced in this game, do they really cost that much? I mean have a carbon fiber/titanium racing bicycle that only costs $5k as the complete setup, that's a hell of a lot more work to put together than to fuse a few layers of carbon composite together in a relatively flat molded shape to match the original cars hood.

They're much cheaper in real life.
 
A few of my fanfic cars are actually tuned this way. It gets them into character, so to speak. I'd be happy to contribute in the thread. Is the performance parts list final? I'd like to suggest a few extra parts.

- Weight reduction stage 1 - Anyone can remove seats and interior trim out of a road car, which is what stage 1 weight reduction simulates.
- Carbon bonnet - Very popular modification.
- Sports air filter - Compliments the sports exhaust.
- Single plate clutch - Boosting power and not upgrading the clutch is a recipe for disaster in real life.
- Comfort soft tyres - For cars under 250bhp. Anything over should be on sports soft.

Didn't think of that at all, good points.

Im for all of that, and no, the parts list isnt final yet, good suggestions there for sure.

The only thing I query is the stage one weight reduction, your absolutely right that wippin' the seats out is a common street mod, but do you think it takes away from the cars original handling too much? im not sure on that, hence not doing the chassis restoration.

Kind of want to keep the original "feel" of the car if you know what i'm saying?

With the added mods from your list I think it would fit in better with budious' point also.

Mafia boy, welcome aboard lol
 
Didn't think of that at all, good points.

Im for all of that, and no, the parts list isnt final yet, good suggestions there for sure.

The only thing I query is the stage one weight reduction, your absolutely right that wippin' the seats out is a common street mod, but do you think it takes away from the cars original handling too much? im not sure on that, hence not doing the chassis restoration.

Kind of want to keep the original "feel" of the car if you know what i'm saying?

With the added mods from your list I think it would fit in better with budious' point also.

Mafia boy, welcome aboard lol

Depends on the car, I think. When I stage 1 an EK9 Civic, it doesn't feel too different because the car was light to begin with. When I stage 1 a Camaro SS, it loses nearly 200kg and feels a lot different than stock.
 
Engine upgrade 1... most street tuned cars have enough mods done to there motors enough for this to be allowed.... Also for cars like the GT350R '65 a chassis rebuild should be allowed. Anyone tuning an older car like that would rebuild the chassis to an extent.
 
Engine upgrade 1... most street tuned cars have enough mods done to there motors enough for this to be allowed.... Also for cars like the GT350R '65 a chassis rebuild should be allowed. Anyone tuning an older car like that would rebuild the chassis to an extent.

Personally, if the car costs over 40k, meaning a chassis rigidity restore is going to cost about 20k, I'd just prefer to do the chassis reinforcement at the same price and not worry about having to maintain the chassis from GT Auto, doing both can be somewhat even more stiffer anyways.
 
Maybe when you're using ricer cars like the Civic Mr.Catface. ;)

Let's try the Audi R8 for comparison, and look at the prices for the little carbon fiber pieces such as the ashtray cover....

http://www.lltek.com/audigate/html/carbon_fiber_audi_r8.htm

I think $5000 for a carbon bonnet for the Audi R8 in GT5 is quite a decent price considering what prices they charge for those little things in real life.

That's because an Audi R8 is an exotic car. Of course it would be overpriced. :P

Porsche Cayenne - £650
BMW E46 M3 - £695
Mercedes C-Class - £950

You going to call these three "ricer cars", Silly Cat Face? :P
 
If your going for street use I would say you should allow up too Stage 2 engine tunings, and up to a medium rpm turbo kit. I know of a lot of cars that are running around in city with complete engine overhauls and decent sized turbos. They all have seemed pretty nice drives to me. Also Headers are a very popular upgrade. Really if your going after streetable mods I would only NOT allow the Stage 3 Engine Upgrade, Stage 2-3 Weight Reduction, High RPM Turbo, Carbon Driveshaft, Twin Plate Clutch, Semi Racing Flywheel, and the Racing type tires. Every other upgrade is actually really common on a lot of street legal tuners, anything more than this though I would can't call it street legal.
 
What i'm really going for here is just the average "boy racer" mods, I know there are cars out there with custom turbos ect but what im talking about is the car you see at the traffic lights, with the stainless exhaust and air filter.

Not out and out racers, but the standard car with some mild improvements, all Engine and turbo tunes are ruled out for this reason
 
Here is an example and sneek peak at my coming tunes!

BMW M3 CSL

412 BHP (Engine rebuilt, oil changed)

1385Kgs

Parts Fitted:

Sports ECU
Sports Air filter
Sports Exhaust
Sports Cat
Sports Height adjustable suspension kit
Single plate clutch
Sports Soft Tyres

Thats it! everything else standard

Suspension settings:

Ride height- F:-5 R:-5

Spring Rate- F: 10.8 R: 9.8

Dampers- F:3 R:3

Camber- F: 1.6 R: 1.9

Brakes- F:7 R:3

Thats it, This car is amazing considering its weight, power, and low level of tune!
 
I just bought a stock M3 premium after driving it on the course generator, it's one of the available test cars for Mt Aso template, I got to say it has great stock suspension. I picked up the M3 GTR standard from UCD, it's stock suspension was not as impressive. I'm not familiar with the CSL designation, is that a race model?
 
What i'm really going for here is just the average "boy racer" mods, I know there are cars out there with custom turbos ect but what im talking about is the car you see at the traffic lights, with the stainless exhaust and air filter.

Ah I got ya. So more of what your average 16-29 year old, with no real knowledge of engines would do. I guess I've been spoiled, my family is mainly made up of mechanics lol. There is one kid I know that want to put 25 lbs of boost on his non turbo 300ZX with out any major engine changes :scared:. He also owns a late 90s model Camaro, it has the smallest V6 (150ish HP stock) they put in those things, and yet he is swearing that with a Sports ECU and a Cold Air Intake he is up to 260hp :banghead:
 
Sports Soft Tyres- Maybe like Toyo Proxies or F1 Eagles perhaps?

But tires like those actually last quite a while IRL... Sports soft tires would be more along the lines of

Nitto NT-01

Eagle F1 SuperCar G:2

Michelin Pilot® Sport Cup

The kinds of tires that, under street use, will wear out in about 1500 miles.

What you listed come off to me as sports hards. They wear great for a car with over 400hp and provide ample traction for everything but full tilt, balls out thrashing.

I dunno if you got your durability mixed up or if you were just shooting off names of well known sports tires, and was wanting a clarification purely because if you actually meant an Eagle F1 i'd suggest comfort softs since they are an All Season tread:lol:
 
That's What I have my first tune like, nothing insane, just a car that will get you from a to b and smoke a couple of supercars on the way.
 
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