Missing Car

g0ld · Apr 21, 2011

As far as I'm aware, all GT4 cars were supposed to be in GT5. While I'm not surprised the Model T, Mercedes Daimler Motor Carriage and Auto Union didn't make the cut, I've only just recently noticed some cars that are missing in GT5 but were included in GT4: both FPV cars, and (more surprisingly) the Hyundai Accent Rally Car. Is there a reason on why they were removed?

EDIT: Car list added. I can't be bothered searching for missing cars in previous GT games (I only have GT4, GT5P and GT5, and have played GT2). So if someone has found more cars missing and if they are verified as being so I will update this list. Thanks to Vanishing Boy and everybody else who helped compile this list up to now.

-ACURA-
Acura Integra GS-R '95
Acura Integra GS-R '98
Acura Integra Type-R ('96 spec) '96
Acura Integra Type-R ('98 spec) '98
Acura NSX-R LM GT2 '95 [R]
Acura NSX Type-S '97*
Acura NSX Type-S Zero '97*

-ALFA ROMEO-
Alfa Romeo 145 2.0 Cloverleaf '94
Alfa Romeo 155 2.0 TS 16V '94
Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 V6 24V '98
Alfa Romeo GTV 2.0 TS 16V '95
Alfa Romeo Spider 2.0 TS '95

-ASTON MARTIN-
Aston Martin DB6 '66
Aston Martin DB7 Coupe '96
Aston Martin DB7 Volante '96
Aston Martin V8 Vantage '97
Aston Martin V12 Vanquish ('00 spec) '00

-AUDI-
Audi A3 1.8 20V '96
Audi A4 A4 2.8 quattro '97
Audi TT LM '-- [R]
Auto Union V16 Type C Streamline '37 [R]

-BMW-
BMW 320Ci (E46) '98
BMW 323Ti (E36) Compact '98
BMW 523i (E39) '98
BMW 740i (E38) '98
BMW 850Ci (E31) '98

-CHEVROLET-
Chevrolet Camaro LM Race Car '-- [R]

-CHRYSLER-
Chrysler Phaeton '97
Chrysler Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car '99 [R]

-CITROEN-
Citroen Saxo 1.6i VTS '97
Citroen Xsara 1.8i 16V Exclusive '97

-DODGE-
Dodge Concept Car (Copperhead, orange) '97
Dodge Concept Car (Copperhead, purple) '97 "Purple Eggplant" [T]
Dodge Concept Car (Copperhead, silver) LM '98 [R]
Dodge Viper R/T 10 '92
Dodge Viper GTS-R Race Car (Team Daytona) '96 {[R] mod} [R]
Dodge Viper GTS-R Race Car (Team Oreca v.1) '96 {[R] mod} [R]
Dodge Viper GTS-R STP-Taisan Race Car (JGTC) '99 [R]

-DOME-
Dome S102 Race Car '09 "Was seen on GT5P Sarthe prototype build" [R]

-FIAT-
Fiat 500/Cinquecento Sporting '98
Fiat 600/Seicento Sporting '98

-FORD-
Ford Cougar 2.5 24V (V6) '99
Ford Escort (Mk. VI) 1.8 Gti '97
Ford Focus Ghia 2.0i Zetec (5-door) '98
Ford Focus Zetec 1.8i (3-door) '98
Ford Model T '1915
Ford Mondeo Ghia X 2.5i 24V
Ford GT40 (Mk.III) Road Car '68
Ford GT90 '95
Ford Mustang (SN92/1) GT '98
Ford Mustang (SN92/1) SVT Cobra (all-motor) '98
Ford Mustang (SN92/2) GT '99
Ford Mustang (SN92/2) SVT Cobra (all-motor) '99
Ford Puma Zetec SE VCT '97

-FORD PERFORMANCE VEHICLE-
FPV (Falcon) F6 '04
FPV (Falcon) GT '04

-GRAN TURISMO , CONCEPT BY (GT5P)-
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C6) '10 [T]
Dodge Viper SRT10 Coupe '10 [T]
Honda Civic Type-R (EK) '97 (CES demo) [T]
Lotus Elise 111R (v.2) '10 [T]
Lotus Elise '10 [T]
MINI Cooper S '10 (SEMA '09 demo) [T]
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR '10 [T]
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR '10 [T]
Nissan Skyline Coupe (V36) '10 [T]
Renault Clio Sport V6 24V '10 [T]
Suzuki Cappuccino Wide Body '10 [T]
Suzuki Swift Sport '10 [T]
TVR Tuscan Speed 6 '10 (plain/blank body, CES demo) [T]

-GRAN TURISMO , TUNED BY (GTHD)-
Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano '06 [T]
Honda Integra Type-R '04 [T]
Infiniti G35 Coupe '06 [T]
Mazda Eunos Roadster '89 [T]
Lotus Elise 111R '04 [T]
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IV GSR '96 [T]
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR '05 [T]
Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II '94 [T]
Suzuki Cappuccino '95 [T]
Toyota Celica GT-FOUR Rally Car '95 [T]

-HKS-
HKS 180SX DRAG '97 [R]
HKS R33 DRAG '98 [R]

-HONDA-
Honda Accord Type-R '98 "European-spec, not Euro-R"
Honda NSX-R LM Hashiken Version '01 (GTC) [R]
Honda S2000 GT1 '-- (plain/blank-body, GT2) [R]

-HYUNDAI-
Hyundai Accent Rally Car '01

-JAGUAR-
Jaguar XJR-15 '92

-LANCIA-
Lancia Y 1.2 16V '97
Lancia Delta HF Integrale (Evo 2) Collezione '94

-LISTER-
Lister Storm V12 Road Car '93

-MAZDA-
Mazda (Mazdaspeed) Roadster A-Spec (NB) '--
Mazda (Mazdaspeed) Roadster B-Spec (NA) '--
Mazda (Mazdaspeed) Roadster C-Spec (NA) '--
Mazda (Mazdaspeed) RX-7 (FD) A-Spec '92
Mazda (Mazdaspeed) RX-7 (FD) GT-C '98
Mazda 787B 'Black' Race Car '91 [R]
Mazda Eunos Cosmo 13B Type S CCS '94
Mazda Eunos Cosmo 20B Type E CCS '94

-MERCEDES-BENZ-
(Mercedes-Benz) Benz Patent MotorWagon '1886
(Mercedes-Benz) Daimler Motor Carriage '1886
([R]) Mercedes-Benz CLK Race Car '-- "PD's version of the DTM car" (unlockable car [GT2]) [R]

-MERCURY-
Mercury Cougar (V6) '99

-MINI-
Mini (Rover) 1275S [Mk.1] '63 [R]
MINI (BMW) Cooper S Rally '02 [R]
Mini Cooper RM [GT5 Beta]

-MITSUBISHI-
Mitsubishi GTO/3000GT LM Edition '-- [R]

-NIKE-
Nike One '22

-NISSAN-
Nissan 370Z GT Academy Street Car '09 (red, GT Academy demo car)
Nissan Pulsar (N14) GTI-R '91
Nissan Pulsar (N15) VZ-R '97
Nissan Pulsar (N15) VZ-R N1 '97
Nissan R390 GT1 Race car '97 (Calsonic-Xanavi) [R]
Nissan R390 GT1 'Black' Race car '97 [R]
Nissan R92CP 'Black' Race Car '92 [R]
Nissan Skyline GT-R (R33) 4-Door Autech by Nismo '99
Nissan Skyline Silhouette Formula Race Car (R30) '83 [R]
Nissan Sunny VZ-R '98

-OPEL/VAUXHALL-
Opel/Vauxhall Astra SRi 2.0i 16V '97
Opel/Vauxhall Corsa Sport 1.6i 16V '97
Opel/Vauxhall Tigra Ice Race Car '98 [R]
Opel/Vauxhall Vectra SRi 2.5 V6 '97
Opel Speedster (all-motor) '00
Vauxhall VX220 (all-motor) '00

-PEUGEOT-
Peugeot 306 S16
Peugeot 406 Sedan

-PLYMOUTH-
Plymouth 'Cuda '70
Plymouth GTX '67
Plymouth PT/Pronto Spyder '98
Plymouth Muscle Car (aka. Roadrunner) '71

-POLYPHONY DIGITAL-
Polyphony F090/S (F1, McLaren, Senna) '90 [R]
Polyphony F094/H (F1, Williams, Hill) '94 [R]
Polyphony F094/S (F1, Williams, Senna) '94 [R]
Polyphony F686/M (F1, Williams, Mansell) '86 [R]
Polyphony F687/S (F1, Lotus, Senna) '87 [R]
Polyphony F688/S (F1, McLaren, Senna) '88 [R]
Polyphony 001 '95 [R]
Polyphony 002 '88 [R]

-PORSCHE-
Porsche 911 (996) GT3 '99 "Never existed" (unlockable car [GT3])

-RÄZO (CARMATE MFG. CO. LTD)-
Nisan 350Z '02 (from GTC) [T]

-RENAULT-
Renault Clio Sport 16V '98
Renault Espace F1 '95
Renault Laguna V6

-RUF-
RUF BTR Type II '88
RUF BTR2 '95
RUF CTR2 Sport '97
RUF RCT '96
RUF Turbo R '996

-SALEEN-
Saleen (Mustang) SR Widebody Race Car '99 [R]

-SUBARU-
Subaru Alcyone SVX/SVX S4 '95
Subaru Alcyone SVX/SVX Version L '95
Subaru Alcyone SVX/SVX Lsi '95
Subaru Forester S/tb '97
Subaru Impreza (2.0) GT '94
Subaru Impreza LM Race Car '-- {GT3} [R]
Subaru Pleo RS '98
Subaru Pleo RM '98
Subaru Rex Supercharged VX '90 "appeared in name only, unlockable name [GT2]"
Subaru Vivio RX-R '97
Subaru Vivio RX-RA '97

-SUZUKI-
Suzuki Cultus Pikes Peak Version '92 [R]

-TOM'S-
Tom's Angel T01 '94
Tom's Supra '95
Tom's (MR2) T020 '96

-TOMMY KAIRA-
Tommy Kaira M13 Stage II '96
Tommy Kaira M30 GTS (R31) '87
Tommy Kaira M30 GTS-R (R32) '91
Tommy Kaira R (R33) '95
Tommy Kaira R (R34) '99
Tommy Kaira ZZ-II Concept '98
Tommy Kaira ZZ-III '97

-TOYOTA-
Toyota BP Trueno GT '99
Toyota Celica (ST165) Rally Car '90 [R]
Toyota Chaser TRD Sports X30 '96
Toyota Esso Ultraflo Supra (JGTC) '01
Toyota FT-86 G'Power Concept '10 (TAS ver.)
Toyota Levin GTAPEX TypeII '85
Toyota Mark II Tourer S '92
Toyota Mark II Tourer V '92
Toyota MTRC (Motor Triatlon Race Car) '04
Toyota pod '01 (GTC exclusive)
Toyota Trueno GTAPEX TypeII '85
Toyota TS020 GT-One 'Black' Race Car '97 [R]
Toyota TS020 GT-One Road Car '98

-TRD-
TRD (MR2) 2000GT '98
TRD (Supra) 3000GT '94

-TVR-
TVR Cerbera 4.2/420 '97
TVR Cerbera 4.5/450 '97
TVR Cerbera LM Edition '97 [R]
TVR Cerbera Speed Six '97
TVR Chimaera 4.0/400 '93
TVR Chimaera 4.5/450 '95
TVR Chimaera 5.0/500 '97
TVR Griffith 4.0/400 '92
TVR Griffith Blackpool B340 '98
TVR Speed 12 Concept '98
TVR Speed 12 Concept Race Car '98 [R]

-VECTOR MOTORS-
Wiegart Vector W8 Twin Turbo '89
Vector (Megatech) M12 '95
Vector (Megatech) M12 LM Edition '-- [R]

-VENTURI-
Venturi Atlantique 300 '92
Venturi 400GT '92
Venturi 600LM '95 [R]

-VOLKSWAGEN-
Volkswagen New Beetle GT Race Car (Mk.1) '-- [R]
Volkswagen Polo 1.4 16V (Mk.3) '96 "unlockable code car (GT2)"

adeadsnipermatt · Apr 21, 2011

Your also missing the nike 2011 I think... And the toyota electric concept car. But this happens to every GT game there are cars missing with each new game idk. I would think it's common sense to include more cars and not take any out.

g0ld · Apr 21, 2011

adeadsnipermatt
Your also missing the nike 2011 I think... And the toyota electric concept car. But this happens to every GT game there are cars missing with each new game idk. I would think it's common sense to include more cars and not take any out.

You are right. It's understandable that they left out cars that can't be raced (the Nike One and Toyota could not be used for events, the Toyota car even had two drivers or something).

RickNU · Apr 21, 2011

You can do a list of cars that is missing in GT5, from GT1 to GTPSP, for we know what cars they are missing

Nick-RD · Apr 21, 2011

I think these cars are very significant and would have loved to seem them in!
Model T, Mercedes Daimler Motor Carriage and Auto Union

dani_corvette · Apr 21, 2011

That Auto Union was incredible!!!! I don´t understand why it didn´t make the cut. In fact, I believe that it would have been rather easy to even "premiumize" it. Whatever....

adeadsnipermatt · Apr 21, 2011

I could make a list of every car we are miss from all previous games. It sounds like fun. I'll starting look back at GT1/2

NFSCARBON1 · Apr 21, 2011

Auto Union vs Ferrari P4 vs Ford MkIv vs Jaguar XJ13 vs Ford GT40. It'd make an interesting race wouldn't it.

g0ld · Apr 21, 2011

dani_corvette
That Auto Union was incredible!!!! I don´t understand why it didn´t make the cut. In fact, I believe that it would have been rather easy to even "premiumize" it. Whatever....

I believe it has to do with the fact that the excluded cars from GT4 (except the FPVs and Hyundai Accent Rally Car) couldn't be raced in events.

GOTMAXPOWER · Apr 21, 2011

g0ld
I believe it has to do with the fact that the excluded cars from GT4 (except the FPVs and Hyundai Accent Rally Car) couldn't be raced in events.

The Caterham couldn't too but that made it in.

MoLiEG · Apr 21, 2011

NFSCARBON1
Auto Union vs Ferrari P4 vs Ford MkIv vs Jaguar XJ13 vs Ford GT40. It'd make an interesting race wouldn't it.

Now I'll miss the Auto Union even more...

that would have been a heck of a race :guilty:

Furinkazen · Apr 21, 2011

Also the Daihatsu Midget 3 wheeler is missing.

C-ZETA · Apr 21, 2011

GOTMAXPOWER
The Caterham couldn't too but that made it in.

Don't forget the Tank Car too...

crooky369 · Apr 21, 2011

MrMulsanne
Also the Daihatsu Midget 3 wheeler is missing.

Beat me to it!

The milk float is legendary.

thesuperfunk · Apr 21, 2011

crooky369
The milk float is legendary.

indeed it is! 👍 :lol:

Tyger · Apr 21, 2011

GOTMAXPOWER
The Caterham couldn't too but that made it in.

I could be wrong but I always thought that was because those cars were the only truly convertible/open top cars in GT4, where you saw the driver. He wasn't especially animated though, so not sure what the issue was.

Most of the standards in GT5 still have the roof up though, so there seems to be some connection?

Vitzio · Apr 21, 2011

Gonna miss that old, old Merc. [Bench on wheels].

Tyger · Apr 21, 2011

Jaguar XJR-15 Road Car, GT40 Road Car, Lister Storm Road Car (actually that might have been from an older GT)...I miss those because much as I love race cars, road cars for me are more fun to compare :odd:

Tyger · Apr 21, 2011

NFSCARBON1
Auto Union vs Ferrari P4 vs Ford MkIv vs Jaguar XJ13 vs Ford GT40. It'd make an interesting race wouldn't it.

Technically, the others have about 30 years over the Auto Union and should own it, but I do remember the Auto Union still being pretty damn fast

Gran_Turismo · Apr 22, 2011

Technically Kaz is a liar. He did say that ALL the cars from GT4 would be in GT5, in an interview.

He did not say maybe or that he would like to, he said they would be.

The Vanishing Boy · Apr 22, 2011

-> Do you guys want me to do a Vehicle Wish List style list? I can do it, since I'm still frustrated that there were numerous cars that were ommited from GT1. :grumpy:

-> Let me start:

-AUDI-
Audi A3 1.8 20V '96

-CHRYSLER-
Chrysler Phaeton '97

-DODGE-
Dodge Concept Car (Copperhead) '97
Dodge Concept Car (Copperhead) LM '98
Dodge Viper R/T 10 '92

-FORD-
Ford GT40 (Mk.III) Road Car '68

-HONDA-
Honda Accord Type-R '98

-JAGUAR-
Jaguar XJR-15 '92

-LENO , JAY (BIG DOG PRODUCTIONS)-
Jay Leno (Blastolene) Tank Car '03

-NIKE-
Nike One '22

-PLYMOUTH-
Plymouth Pronto Spyder '98

-TOYOTA-
Toyota POD '01

-TOM'S-
Tom's Angel T01 '95

-TOMMY KAIRA-
Tommy Kaira ZZ-II Concept '98
Tommy Kaira ZZ-III '97

-TVR-
TVR Speed 12 Concept '98

-VECTOR MOTORS-
Wiegart Vector W8 '89
Vector (Megatech) M12 '95

-VENTURI-
Venturi Atlantique 300 '92
Venturi 400GT '92

^ I can go on if you guys insist!

Tyger · Apr 22, 2011

The Vanishing Boy
-> Do you guys want me to do a Vehicle Wish List style list? I can do it, since I'm still frustrated that there were numerous cars that were ommited from GT1.

-> Let me start:

-DODGE-
Dodge Concept Car (Copperhead) '97
Dodge Concept Car (Copperhead) LM '98
Dodge Viper R/T 10 '92

-HONDA EUROPE-
Honda Accord Type-R '98

-JAGUAR-
Jaguar XJR-15 '92

-LENO , JAY (BIG DOG PRODUCTIONS)-
Jay Leno (Blastolene) Tank Car '03

-TOYOTA JAPAN-
Toyota POD '01

-TOM'S-
Tom's Angel T01 '95

-TOMMY KAIRA-
Tommy Kaira ZZ-II Concept '98

-VECTOR MOTORS-
Wiegart Vector W8 '89
Vector (Megatech) M12 '95

-VENTURI-
Venturi Atlantique 300 '92
Venturi 400GT '92

^ I can go on if you guys insist!

Personally think you are being kinda pernickety about the Tommykaira (it only changed a little and never reached the market, same can be said for the two versions of the Speed 12) and the Tank Car (what is the difference there? I don't remember the one in previous GTs being different, did Leno get two made?)

But right with you on the rest! The Vectors I always found strange but tons of character, the Venturis too, so overlooked, and the Dodge Copperhead was such an awesome car to have in the PS1 days

*EDIT* The little Toyotas with their waggy tails and bipolar disorder I miss less.

The Vanishing Boy · Apr 22, 2011

-> ...

Tyger
Personally think you are being kinda pernickety about the Tommykaira (it only changed a little and never reached the market, same can be said for the two versions of the Speed 12) and the Tank Car (what is the difference there? I don't remember the one in previous GTs being different, did Leno get two made?)

But right with you on the rest! The Vectors I always found strange but tons of character, the Venturis too, so overlooked, and the Dodge Copperhead was such an awesome car to have in the PS1 days

*EDIT* The little Toyotas with their waggy tails and bipolar disorder I miss less.

^ They weren't *two* versions of the Tank Car. I'm just basically giving the manufacturer Blastolene who made the Tank Car the credit they deserve (and to educate people too).

-> On the TVR's epicly-scary Speed 12 they're were actually three versions of the car:

- Concept Road Car

- Concept Race Car (the very car that was banned from GT racing altogether)

- Cerbera Speed 12 (already in GT4 & GT5)

MrMulsanne
Also the Daihatsu Midget 3 wheeler is missing.

^ I basically thought *everyone* hated this car:

^ Oh well... :sly:

Tyger
Jaguar XJR-15 Road Car, GT40 Road Car, Lister Storm Road Car (actually that might have been from an older GT)...I miss those because much as I love race cars, road cars for me are more fun to compare

^ Yeah, I'm kinda sick of the race car since GT3. :indiff:

NFSCARBON1 · Apr 22, 2011

The Vanishing Boy
-> ...

^ They weren't *two* versions of the Tank Car. I'm just basically giving the manufacturer Blastolene who made the Tank Car the credit they deserve (and to educate people too).

-> On the TVR's epicly-scary Speed 12 they're were actually three versions of the car:

- Concept Road Car

- Concept Race Car (the very car that was banned from GT racing altogether)

- Cerbera Speed 12 (already in GT4 & GT5)

What about the Speed 12 Racers? I think the only road legal Speed 12 still working has a racer body on it now.

Edit: Here it is

The Vanishing Boy · Apr 22, 2011

^ Although, its sick looking beast. But this specific 'W112 BHG' car wasn't featured in GT yet.

-> But this one sure is:

Tyger · Apr 22, 2011

I was talking road cars but forgot there was a racing version in one of the previous games too, or do I have that wrong?

Regarding road versions, you can see the two basic body shapes in the pics above (I can't view one Tripod-hosted pic though), and I believe for the older shape there were several race cars and a part-developed road version that appeared in GT on the PS1, but i'm not sure it was completed in "real life" (I found a random pic that seems to be of the body shell outside the old TVR factory but it will break your hearts)

As for the "Cerbera" Speed 12 you see in the game now, as well as Forza, there were many successful race versions of this in GT class and a number of concept models for the road-legal version (I have an old style photo of one from the UK Birmingham motor show, in Reflex Spice I think) but I believe only two road versions were completed...there were some issues with the first (i'm sure someone can clarify what) and indeed the second used body parts from a racing model, and is the red one you can see on Youtube, This is the only street-legal Speed 12 in existence.

Peter Wheeler drove one or the other of the above and decided it was just too lairy by far so canned it, though you can't help but wonder if there were many other reasons, as it wasn't long before the marques hit a lot of problems =(

NFSCARBON1 · Apr 22, 2011

The Vanishing Boy
^ Although, its sick looking beast. But this specific 'W112 BHG' car wasn't featured in GT yet.

-> But this one sure is:

If it becomes premium that should be an RM (keep the licence plate though).
Sadly the silver one you posted's date of liability was 2007. So either it's stuffed in a Museum or scrapped

On a brighter note 'W112 BHG' is up to date (well 1st of this month, but the system probably hasn't been updated yet).

GT_Prologue5 · Apr 22, 2011

Throw in the PT Spyder from GT2 and I'll be happy Vanishing Boy.

Tyger · Apr 22, 2011

There's only the one car with that registration, I believe it was repainted at some point early on but I think those pics are just different lighting. Like I said, there are lots of clips of it on Youtube, but sadly mostly trundling around or being offloaded from a truck etc.

///Mikucki · Apr 22, 2011

they needed space for all those skylines and miatas

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g0ld

adeadsnipermatt

g0ld

RickNU

Nick-RD

dani_corvette

adeadsnipermatt

NFSCARBON1

g0ld

GOTMAXPOWER

MoLiEG

Furinkazen

Sim Racing Organiser

C-ZETA

crooky369

thesuperfunk

Tyger

Vitzio

Tyger

Tyger

Gran_Turismo

The Vanishing Boy

Tyger

The Vanishing Boy

NFSCARBON1

The Vanishing Boy

Tyger

NFSCARBON1

GT_Prologue5

Tyger

///Mikucki

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