Must Keep Standard Cars - Have any Suggestions?

Earth · Jul 2, 2012

111 Total Cars

Normal Road Cars 20 Total

Alfa Romeo GTV 3.0 V6 24V '01
BMW M3 '04
Chevrolet Camaro Z28 Coupe ’97
Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 (C4) ’90
Chrysler 300C '05
Chrysler Crossfire ’04
Chrysler Prowler ’02
DMC DeLorean S2 ’04
Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R ’00
Ford RS200 ’84
Honda Civic Si R II EG '95
Honda CR-X Si R '90
Honda Integra Type R DC2 '99
Jaguar XFR '10
Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR ’98
Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5 – 16 Evolution II ’91
Subaru IMPREZA Coupe 22B-STi Version '98
Toyota SUPRA RZ ’97
Toyota SPRINTER TRUENO GT-APEX (AE86) ’83
TRD CELICA TRD Sports M (ZZT231) '00

GT Racing Cars 12 Total

Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 Ti '93
Audi R8 LMS Race Car ’09
BMW 320i Touring Car ’03
BMW McLaren F1 GTR Race Car ’97
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Race Car ’63
Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca Race Car ’00
Jaguar XJ220 LM Race Car
Lamborghini NOMAD Diablo GT-1 (JGTC) ’00
Mazda RX-8 Concept LM Race Car
Mercedes-Benz 190 E 2.5 – 16 Evolution II Touring Car ’92
Pagani Zonda LM Race Car
Spoon S2000 Race Car ’00

Classic Cars 21 Total

Audi Quattro '82
Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA 1600 '65
Alfa Romeo Spider Duetto '66
Alpine A310 1600VE ’73
Autobianchi A112 Abarth ’79
BMW 2002 Turbo '73
Chevrolet Corvette Convertible (C1) ’54
Chevrolet Corvette Coupe (C2) ’63
Chevrolet Corvette Stingray L46 350 (C3) ’69
Citroën 2CV Type A ’54
Ginetta G4 ’64
Jaguar E-Type Coupe '65
Lancia Stratos '73
Lotus Elan S1 '62
Mazda Cosmo Sport (L10A) '67
Mitsubishi Lancer EX 1800GSR IC Turbo ’83
Mitsubishi MIRAGE 1400GLX ’78
Nissan 240ZG (HS30) ’71
Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-R (KPGC110) ’73
Toyota 2000 GT '67

Muscle Cars 8 Total

Buick GNX '87
Chevrolet Camaro SS ’69
Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 ’70
Dodge Charger 440 R/T ’70
Dodge Charger Super Bee 426 Hemi ’71
Plymouth Cuda 440 Six Pack ’71
Plymouth Superbird ’70
Shelby GT350R '65

Le Mans Prototypes 18 Total

Audi R8 Race Car ’01
Audi R8 Race Car (Audi PlayStation Team ORECA) ’05
Bentley Speed 8 Race Car ’03
BMW V12 LMR Race Car ’99
Chaparral 2D Race Car ’67
Chaparral 2J Race Car ’70
Ford GT40 '69
Mercedes-Benz CLK-GTR Race Car ’98
Mercedes-Benz Sauber Mercedes C9 Race Car ’89
Nissan R89C Race Car ’89
Nissan R92CP Race Car ’92
Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car ’98
Panoz Esperante GTR-1 Race Car ’98
Pescarolo Sport Pescarolo C60 Hybride – Judd Race car ’05
Peugeot 905 Race Car ’92
Toyota GT-ONE Race Car (TS020) ’99
Toyota MINOLTA Toyota 88C-V Race Car ’89
Toyota Toyota 7 Race Car ’70

Super Cars 23 Total

Aston Martin DB7 Vantage Coupe '00
Aston Martin V8 Vantage ’99
BMW M3 GTR '03
Bugatti Veyron 16.4 ’09
Callaway C12 ’03
Cizeta V16T ’94
Jaguar XJ220 ’92
Lotus Carlton '90
Lamborghini Countach LP400 ’74
Lamborghini Countach 25th Anniversary ’88
Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car ’98
Pagani Zonda C12S 7.3 ’02
RUF 3400s '00
RUF BTR ’86
RUF CTR2 ’96
RUF CTR “Yellow Bird” ’87
RUF RGT ’00
Saleen S7 '02
Shelby Series One Super Charged ’03
Spyker C8 Laviolette '01
Tommy Kaira ZZ-S '00
Tommy Kaira ZZII ’00
TVR Cerbera Speed 12 '00

Concept Cars 8 Total

Acura DN-X Concept ’02
Cadillac Cien Concept '02
Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z Concept ’88
Dodge Viper GTS-R Concept '00
Dome DOME-ZERO Concept ’78
Mazda Furai Concept ’08
Suzuki GSX-R/4 '01
Volkswagen W12 Nardo Concept '01

Rally cars 8 Total

Ford RS200 Rally Car ’85
Lancia DELTA S4 Rally Car '85
Lancia STRATOS Rally Car '77
Mitsubishi PAJERO Evolution Rally Raid Car ’03
Mitsubishi PAJERO Rally Raid Car ’85
Peugeot 206 Rally Car '99
Renault 5 Maxi Turbo Rally Car '85
Suzuki ESCUDO Dirt Trial Car ’98

Tuner 5 Total

Amuse Carbon R (R34) ’04
Buick Special ’62 (SEMA Gran Turismo Awards 2003)
Honda Gathers Drider CIVIC Race Car '98
Spoon INTEGRA TYPE R (DC2) ’99
Spoon S2000 ’00

Undefined 2 Total

Caterham Seven Fire Blade ’02
Formula GT

interpunct · Jul 2, 2012

I voted C but I meant B. Sorry sweetheart. Anyways it's a pretty great list, thing is that it's missing some other cars that I absolutely adore like the Mercedes SLS McLaren.

Nielsen · Jul 2, 2012

I agree with many of your choices. Can't think of all those that would seem relevant right now but the lack of a Subaru Impreza 22B and Mitsubish GTO Twin Turbo caught my eyes.

Earth
Nissan 300ZX 2seater (Z32) ’89
- Who didn't like this generation of the Z

Standard?

finnracer · Jul 2, 2012

Good selection of supercars and high end racecars but almost no everyday cars or even slower racers, D.

NABeast · Jul 2, 2012

Keep all the turd kei cars standard. Upgrade the rest.

Kino321-X · Jul 2, 2012

Your list is an A IMO, but you're missing a few cars.

How about the:

Spyker C8
Saleen S7
Volkswagen W12 Nardo (would be cool to have a premium concept like the 4200R)
Suzuki GSX-R/4 (already has a low-res cockpit view)
Alfa Romeo Spider Duetto
2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT
Toyota 2000GT
Mazda Cosmo L10A/B
Jaguar E-Type

You also forgot one RUF, the 3400S. Am I the only one that likes the Porsche Boxster?

dirtbiker535 · Jul 2, 2012

Need to have all of the standard le mans cars

cally-dave · Jul 2, 2012

Lotus Carlton. When this car was launched, it really upset Mercedes Benz and BMW back in the early 90's. Whilst the Merc's and BMW's were electronically limited to 155mph, the Lotus Carlton stormed onto 180+mph, full leather luxury, and the power to scare Ferrari's and the like.

IceMan PJN · Jul 3, 2012

I know I don't want the Veyron in GT6 because it's an overrated pile of crap. I don't agree with billing it as the world's fastest production car because it's only technically true and fails to tell the whole truth - that it's slower than several less powerful production cars around a circuit and you won't ever take it anywhere that you can actually max if out. It's a useless figure if there is virtually no places on Earth that it can actually outrun anything and it can't outrace a list of production cars. It's ugly as sin, too, and looks like the head of a cyborg pig.

ch3ng · Jul 3, 2012

Yamauchi is doing research ?

Good list.

MaterA113 · Jul 3, 2012

Some other good cars:
Tommy Kaira ZZ-S
Jaguar XFR never figured out why this was standard
Lotus Elan
Dodge Viper GTS-R Concept
Hyundai Tiburon/Coupe/Tuscani
Mitsubishi Eclipse

Chad D. · Jul 3, 2012

Apart from the ones on the list, I would add the 1988 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z Concept, but I'd probably be the only one to say it, so yeah, I agree with that list.

EDIT: Nevermind, I can't read, lol.

Earth · Jul 3, 2012

interpunct
I voted C but I meant B. Sorry sweetheart. Anyways it's a pretty great list, thing is that it's missing some other cars that I absolutely adore like the Mercedes SLS McLaren.

Thanks.

The SLS is already premium I believe.

finnracer
Good selection of supercars and high end racecars but almost no everyday cars or even slower racers, D.

Thanks

Well that's because most everyday cars aren't worth making premium if they're 5 or 10 years old. As for slower racers its a similar problem, alot of the slower touring/GT cars that are standard are 10 year old DTM or Super GT cars.

Chad D.
Appart from the ones on the list, I would add the 1988 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z Concept, but I'd probably be the only one to say it, so yeah, I agree with that list.

It was on the list from day 1 👍

Kino321-X
Your list is an A IMO, but you're missing a few cars.

How about the:

Spyker C8
Saleen S7
Volkswagen W12 Nardo (would be cool to have a premium concept like the 4200R)
Suzuki GSX-R/4 (already has a low-res cockpit view)
Alfa Romeo Spider Duetto
2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT
Toyota 2000GT
Mazda Cosmo L10A/B
Jaguar E-Type

You also forgot one RUF, the 3400S. Am I the only one that likes the Porsche Boxster?

Great list, how did I overlook the Saleen S7 among others

I added all your suggestions except the 2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GT. Theres a 2011 model of the GT and I dont think there isn't enough special about the 2006 car for it to have a must have spot in GT6's premium car list. Maybe you can convince me otherwise?

I'll be reorganizing the first post by car type and not manufacturer in the new future. I'll also add a small picture by each car for quick reference.

Feel free to make more requests

Phoenix · Jul 3, 2012

Where is the Ford GT40 Race car??? :odd:

krioto · Jul 3, 2012

Nismo 400R (I know it's a just an R33 in a skirt, but I like it)

Impreza 22B

Lotus Elan

Fiat Punto Arbarth

TRD Celica

Lancia Stratos

All the DTM cars

Chad D. · Jul 3, 2012

Earth
It was on the list from day 1 👍

...........Dear God I need to learn how to read better. I must of skimmed a little too fast, lol. Well, put an A down for me then 👍 .

Earth · Jul 3, 2012

deleted pushed wrong button

mikecustom · Jul 3, 2012

I think the VW W12 is quite relevant as well as the Caddy CIEN,
some more classics
Lancia Stratos
Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA
Ford GT40
Audi Quattro
BMW 2002 Turbo

and theres a lot of relevant cars, your list is pretty much full of race cars and very LMP heavy

Iconic WRC cars are missing, like the Lancia Delta, the stratos
how about the Renault 5 turbo, the scariest rally car ever

or newer stuff like the Peugeot 206 WRC, it represents the best days peugeot had in rallying, think it won 3 consecutive championships with Marcus Gronholm behind the wheel

also, old Hondas are very popular, like the 90s integras and civics, Honda is actually a cool manufacturer, yes its japanese, but its cooler than nissan

Earth · Jul 3, 2012

cally-dave
Lotus Carlton. When this car was launched, it really upset Mercedes Benz and BMW back in the early 90's. Whilst the Merc's and BMW's were electronically limited to 155mph, the Lotus Carlton stormed onto 180+mph, full leather luxury, and the power to scare Ferrari's and the like.

added

MaterA113
Some other good cars:
Tommy Kaira ZZ-S
Jaguar XFR never figured out why this was standard
Lotus Elan
Dodge Viper GTS-R Concept
Hyundai Tiburon/Coupe/Tuscani
Mitsubishi Eclipse

Added everything except for the Tiburon and Eclipse. Those cars are rather old, why add them? I'm not an all knowing car expert, so maybe you can convince me?

krioto
Nismo 400R (I know it's a just an R33 in a skirt, but I like it)

Impreza 22B

Lotus Elan

Fiat Punto Arbarth

TRD Celica

All the DTM cars

Added except for the Fiat and DTM cars. Don't understand why the Fiat is a must have premium unless I'm missing something, and the DTM cars are dated. I think we would much rather have 2012 DTM models unless of course one of the standard cars are legendary or something

mikecustom
I think the VW W12 is quite relevant as well as the Caddy CIEN,
some more classics
Lancia Stratos
Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA
Ford GT40
Audi Quattro
BMW 2002 Turbo

and theres a lot of relevant cars, your list is pretty much full of race cars and very LMP heavy

Iconic WRC cars are missing, like the Lancia Delta, the stratos
how about the Renault 5 turbo, the scariest rally car ever

or newer stuff like the Peugeot 206 WRC, it represents the best days peugeot had in rallying, think it won 3 consecutive championships with Marcus Gronholm behind the wheel

also, old Hondas are very popular, like the 90s integras and civics, Honda is actually a cool manufacturer, yes its japanese, but its cooler than nissan

All added.

If you can be more specific Honda I can add them with good reasoning. I know a little about car history but not as much as most.

daus26 · Jul 3, 2012

If we're gonna have standards in GT6, why not just have all of them back?... unless this list is for the standards that should be super polished or turned to premium.

Also, there's just too many good standards out there that are pleasurable to drive. My few picks are BMW M3 CSL/GTR, Evo series, Sti series, Zondas... I can go on forever really.

Nielsen · Jul 3, 2012

Please add the Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '98. It's finishes a golden Japanese circle which includes 300ZX, RX-7, Supra RZ and maybe even the NSX. Despite being heavy, it is still a highly potent car powered by a V6 engine and 4WD drivetrain. I believe this specific model was the peak of the GTO/3000 GT series and rare too. Plus it is the best looking thing Mitsubishi ever made but that observation is purely subjective.

daus26 · Jul 3, 2012

Alright, I'm guessing there will be quiet a few of hundreds of different standards that people want to keep. Chances are most of them (especially all) will not be converted to premium.

Now imagine if in the next GT game, everything is premium, and there are no standards. The people wanting a GT game with premiums only will be satisfied, but then there will be a situation where a lot of people will miss a lot of the standard cars that didn't make it to premium quality.

Lose, lose situation for PD? Yup.

interpunct · Jul 3, 2012

Earth
Thanks.

The SLS is already premium I believe.

Not the McLaren one. It's the one from GT4.

tpark103 · Jul 3, 2012

There are quite a few more that deserve to be converted.

Hayden · Jul 3, 2012

The BMW M3 GTR '03 seems like a worthy addition. Definitely a B at the moment though 👍

McClarenDesign · Jul 3, 2012

daus26
If we're gonna have standards in GT6, why not just have all of them back?... unless this list is for the standards that should be super polished or turned to premium.

Also, there's just too many good standards out there that are pleasurable to drive. My few picks are BMW M3 CSL/GTR, Evo series, Sti series, Zondas... I can go on forever really.

I'll do one better and suggest that everything we have carry over... optionally, of course.

TexasTyme214 · Jul 3, 2012

This thread is a good hint at which cars should get the premium treatment next. I don't see the Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car or the Honda NSX-R LM Prototype Road Car in the list. You can argue the Honda, but the R390 is a must have.

Earth · Jul 3, 2012

daus26
If we're gonna have standards in GT6, why not just have all of them back?... unless this list is for the standards that should be super polished or turned to premium.

Also, there's just too many good standards out there that are pleasurable to drive. My few picks are BMW M3 CSL/GTR, Evo series, Sti series, Zondas... I can go on forever really.

This is a list of standard cars that we believe must be in Gran Turismo 6

Hopefully Gran Turismo 6 is premium cars only and standards are dropped all together.

Nielsen
Please add the Mitsubishi GTO Twin Turbo MR '98. It's finishes a golden Japanese circle which includes 300ZX, RX-7, Supra RZ and maybe even the NSX. Despite being heavy, it is still a highly potent car powered by a V6 engine and 4WD drivetrain. I believe this specific model was the peak of the GTO/3000 GT series and rare too. Plus it is the best looking thing Mitsubishi ever made but that observation is purely subjective.

Added

daus26
Alright, I'm guessing there will be quiet a few of hundreds of different standards that people want to keep. Chances are most of them (especially all) will not be converted to premium.

Now imagine if in the next GT game, everything is premium, and there are no standards. The people wanting a GT game with premiums only will be satisfied, but then there will be a situation where a lot of people will miss a lot of the standard cars that didn't make it to premium quality.

Lose, lose situation for PD? Yup.

Want to keep or should keep? I'm not so sure all 800 of them have been converted to premium. I'll go a step further and say I dont want all 800 of them converted to premium. Alot of them are useless cars that nobody cares about. This thread is about picking through the trash and finding the gems that deserve the time to be modeled and featured in GT6.

As for people getting furious over a certain standard car not appearing in GT6, why have they not said anything yet? The list is at 66 cars and it may double at best. Keep in mind GT5's standard car list is 800+ strong. So the idea that people can only really list or are happy with such a tiny amount of that 800 being confirmed for GT6 really sheds light on how awful and outdated the standard car list is.

interpunct
Not the McLaren one. It's the one from GT4.

Im not sure what car you are talking about

tpark103
There are quite a few more that deserve to be converted.

I'm all ears

MrDinosaw94
The BMW M3 GTR '03 seems like a worthy addition. Definitely a B at the moment though 👍

The car has a great history. Wanted to add the racecar but it's the '01 model. The '03 racecar model finished 1-2 at the Nurburgring 24 hours

TexasTyme214
This thread is a good hint at which cars should get the premium treatment next. I don't see the Nissan R390 GT1 Road Car or the Honda NSX-R LM Prototype Road Car in the list. You can argue the Honda, but the R390 is a must have.

Added

mikecustom · Jul 3, 2012

HONDAS

Integra Type R DC2, '99
CR-X Si R '90
Civic Si R II EG '95

and maybe the
Gathers Drider Civic Race car, but if we do get a livery editor for gt6, it would be pretty much pointless to include this one since we already have a premium ek
the same goes for the spoon ek

Earth · Jul 3, 2012

mikecustom
HONDAS

Integra Type R DC2, '99
CR-X Si R '90
Civic Si R II EG '95

The spoon ones
spoon integra
spoon S2000

and maybe the
Gathers Drider Civic Race car, but if we do get a livery editor for gt6, it would be pretty much pointless to include this one since we already have a premium ek
the same goes for the spoon ek

All added. Hondas are popular and need to be well represented. The Spoon cars won't be too much extra work on the devleopment crew as a base model for the car will already be created

Must Keep Standard Cars - Have any Suggestions?

Rate this list of must have GT6 cars that were standard in GT5

A

B

C

D

F

Chrysler Racer

Insightful, but bollocks.

Similar threads