Continued from the A5 thread...
First, the only portion of your post with any real substance.
M5Power
According to you, these are the two characteristics of Chris Bangle's rear end design:
Instead blending the trunk into the rear of the car, the decklid has its a very strong character line that parallels the car's shoulder line.
The finishing touch of course, is the visual isolation of the trunk, giving the rear end of the car a very slab-sided look.
You know, it's kind of odd - I sort of remember that from somewhere:
According to you, that has every single aspect of the Bangle Butt. The trunk has a very strong character line that parallels the car's shoulder line, and the trunk is visually isolated from the taillights, albeit not in ths disgusting manner that Chris Bangle in which managed to **** it up. And the Volvo S60 shown came out in ...
2001. That happens to predate all of Bangle's incredibly crappy designs.
Take another look. Here is the 745i.
The red line is the high trunk line, which continues uninterrupted all the way to rear. The blue line is the shoulder line, which drops down into the trunk surround.
This is how Bangle isolates the trunk.. by drawing a completely uninterrupted line from beginning to end.
Now here is the Volvo from a similar angle.
The red line stops at the tail light cluster (pink). The blue line stops there too.
Now this is my coworker's Camry.
Notice how in the Camry, the red line goes all the way around, just like the 7. And the blue line drops into the trunk surround.
The big difference between the 745 and the Camry is Toyota fixed the ungainliness of the trunk by breaking it up with the tail light cluster on both sides of the shoulder line.
Here's what it would look like without the inner part of the lights.
Very similar to the pre-reskinned 7.
This near side view shows better where the middle of the trunk bulges outward. The Volvo doesn't have this. At least, not to this extent.
As for everything else....
Okay, I'll finally play ball because the BMW love has become absurd. It was bad enough when you were the only one but now Duke's got one and it's become scary.
Oh noes! People like stuff you don't! How will you EVER cope?
And on the subject of Bangle's crappy designs, know which car decidedly
does not have a Bangle Butt?
That's right - no character line and no trunk isolation. <SNIP>
Wow. You really showed me there. And all this time I've been saying how every BMW has the same rear end styling.
In other words, even though according to you everyone and his sister are copying Bangle, <SNIP>
I said he started design trends, not "everyone and his sister are copying" him.
By-the-book strawman attack. Keep up the good work. The more you type, the sillier it all looks.
.....Bangle himself isn't even on board with the crap he produces.
And before you say that the new 3-series does have a slight Bangle Butt, you're wrong there too. EVERY SINGLE SEDAN MADE IN THE LAST DECADE runs a line from the window to the trunk, and most of them isolate the trunk from the taillights. Bangle just did it in a more pronounced manner, but you'll notice that while Bangle was getting criticized for his absurdly disgusting designs,
Volvo was getting praised for their gorgeous ones. Bangle Butt? The credit goes to the Swedes.
Not that it matters much, because it's not as if I've been trying so hard to convince everyone that Bangle came up with all this stuff on his own AND that it's gorgeous.
///M-Spec
He didn't INVENT much of elements that goes into his style, but he certainly did combine them into something uniquely his own. The distinctive "Bangle butt" isn't even something he created, but yet the entire automotive press "credits" him with its ugliness.
///M-Spec
The thing about the Toyotas that make them nicer looking is instead of visually emphasizing the bulk of the trunk, the taillights mask it. When BMW left the tailights off the trunk on the 745, it simply made the trunk appear larger. The 6-Series also suffers from this styling element.
Real slam dunk you served up here.
Okay, tall tales are fun to tell and all, but it's time for a reality check:
1- At no time have I stated or implied every BMW sports a Bangle Butt, nor do I believe every BMW has one.
2- At no time have I stated or implied
every car company is attempting to copy Bangle's work. Nor do I believe that. This includes The Butt.
3- The only reason I gave the Camry/LS470 example was because YOU ASKED for an example.
4- I made a statement that Bangle starts design trends. That is all.
5-
I like some Bangle BMWs. I dislike some Bangle BMWs. I think the 7 is ugly. I think the rear of the 6 is ugly.
When you hit 'reply', try resisting the urge to pretend the contrary because it's easier to attack silly arguments I never made.
Oh that's brilliant. +rep there for sure!
EDIT:
BTW... Ermm.. So you wanna explain this to us?
and then...
Or do you just like to flip flop your opinions depending on who you're mad at from one day to the other?
M
