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Is it too late to join in for tonight?
@cheechoo777,
Thanks for your interest!
We would love to have you back in the league. Here's what you need to know and do in order to rejoin:

We run a clean league by enforcing a strict penalty system based on the S.N.A.I.L. OLR (which is a modified version of the GTP OLR). We also expect all of our drivers to know and follow The Good Racecraft Guide.
Please become versed in both if you aren't already. Once that is complete, please follow the steps below to complete your entry into the league:

1. You take the S.N.A.I.L. OLR and Racecraft Test

2. You run the Time Trial and submit your information.

3. @kcheeb PM's you with your assigned Division that we feel will give you the closest competition. kcheeb will add you to the drivers list.

4. The Race Director or Primary Host from the corresponding SNAIL Division will send you a PSN friend request. Sunday night you will need to sort the online lobbies by friends and join the lobby named 'snailracing.org Division_1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6' based off your placement from kcheeb. That lobby will be where you race Sunday.

5. You drive fast and clean on Sunday 👍

The original post has everything you need to know about what to expect on Sunday night and what you will need to have completed in order to be competitive. If you have any questions, please feel free to post your question on the thread.

If you have a preference for car/wheel colour and racing number, please follow the instruction contained here.
To avoid duplication, the currently claimed combinations can be found here.

During the week we run a number of different events, we encourage all SNAILs to join as many as possible.

Welcome back to S.N.A.I.L. :cheers:
 
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Also there is a great saying I saw once

...Only if you let it.

Things will bother you

...only if you let it!

Things will annoy you

...only if you let it.

Things will upset you

...only if you let it.

Keeping this as a core idea in my life has really helped me deal with things. Yes I still get annoyed, bothered and upset at times but I now realize that it is my response that dictates those feelings. I know this may sound contrite but before you dismiss it try it. Next time you are getting upset, annoyed or bothered take a step back and think how you would feel if you did not let it bother you.

Only if you let it.

OIYLI
 
It would be great if every SNAIL did "their part". Define "their part" however. I much more interested that every SNAIL do what they think is right. If you think it's right to get erroneous penalties, caused by another driver, and not take the 15 minutes it might take to look at your replay to get the details, then the 1-5 minutes it might take to fill out the Incident Report form, then that is your right. Just don't complain about and try to change something that wasn't the root cause of the problem.

I for one am for the most part done with the IR filing. I respect those who dedicate the time and effort to trying to keep things clean but I've been screwed over by the stewards before so why would I keep beating a dead horse?

Also IF the offender is penalized, it may make them think twice about making the same move in the future but I don't get the points lost from being run over/taken out.
 
I for one am for the most part done with the IR filing. I respect those who dedicate the time and effort to trying to keep things clean but I've been screwed over by the stewards before so why would I keep beating a dead horse?

Also IF the offender is penalized, it may make them think twice about making the same move in the future but I don't get the points lost from being run over/taken out.

I don't believe the stewards have ever "screwed" anyone over. We look at a racing incident from all sides, and apply the OLR. Many times we don't agree and have many discussions about how it should be handled. The guys do what they can, the best they can, for free (not counting shells, I guess). This is what separates us from Open Lobby - we have very clear "Rules Of Engagement" along with consequences.
 
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I don't believe the stewards have ever "screwed" anyone over. We look at a racing incident from all sides, and apply the OLR. Many times we don't agree and have many discussions about how it should be handled. The guys do what they can, the best they can, for free (not counting shells, I guess). This is what separates us from Open Lobby.

We clearly have different definitions of "screwed."
 
Probably. All I'm saying is the we have the OLR and we apply it the best we can and as fair as we can. You should continue to file reports when you feel there is something that should be looked at. Ask for feedback on the results of the review.
 
I would like to race the west coast series. What time is this at eastern time? I thnk it would be better on my schedule. I am a night owl. Might also race the regular races tonight in d5, but I am simply curious. Is it at midnight? Directly following the other races?
 
I would like to race the west coast series. What time is this at eastern time? I thnk it would be better on my schedule. I am a night owl. Might also race the regular races tonight in d5, but I am simply curious. Is it at midnight? Directly following the other races?
It will be midnight your time. It would be great to have you on track as I have fond memory of lots of good battles with you Gamble.
 




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Welcome to S.N.A.I.L.
Our mission is to provide our members with the cleanest and most competitive racing experience possible with minimal prep time required. No matter what your skill level is, we will provide you with a full grid of similarly-skilled drivers to compete against. It's our belief that close racing is not only exciting, but is also the best way to improve your skill and refine your racecraft! We have our official league night every Sunday night at 9:30pm Eastern / 6:30pm Pacific (we also have a new West Coast time slot starting at 9pm Pacific!!), but we also have a full schedule of events held on every night of the week. If this sounds like something you'd like to be a part of, please keep reading to learn more about our league and how to join us.

What Makes Us Different
There are five things that we offer that you won't find anywhere else. First of all, we provide our members with the most evenly-matched competition possible. In fact, the intense level of competition that we produce has established S.N.A.I.L. as an ideal place to prepare for GT Academy. And if you like to keep track of your improvement, you'll be glad to know that we keep the most comprehensive race data available on GTPlanet. On top of that, if you like to have a say in what cars and tracks you race, we feature an interactive process that allows your voice to be heard. And finally, we're the only league where our members win valuable prizes just for showing up to race! What more could you ask for?!

Evenly-Matched Competition
Have you ever watched a professional race where drivers with completely different skill levels were competing on the same track? Of course not! That wouldn't be fun to watch, let alone fun to participate in. Unfortunately, that disparity of pace is something you'll often find in organized online racing. When this happens, you'll be lucky to just a few drivers that you're truly competitive with. Everyone else will usually either be faster or slower than you. We prevent that from happening in S.N.A.I.L. by dividing our drivers into six separate divisions based on speed and skill. This results in full grids of evenly-matched competition and creates the closest and most intense sim racing experience around!

Preparation for GT Academy
If you have your eye on competing in GT Academy one day, there is no better place than S.N.A.I.L. to hone your skills to the elite levels necessary to make it to the finals. You need to be the best of the best to make it to Silverstone, and that's exactly what the drivers in our top division are. Half of this year's GT Academy Silverstone Finalists race in S.N.A.I.L. (click here if you want advice directly from one of them). However, even if you don't aspire to win GT Academy someday, it's still great to be able to get tips and advice from many of the best drivers around. Regardless if you're a professional racer or a casual gamer, we can provide you with the perfect environment to learn and get faster!

Win Valuable Prizes
Have you ever wished you could win free stuff just for having fun? If so, then you might want to know that our members win valuable real-world prizes just for racing with us! These prize are based on participation and not on race results. Some examples of prizes our members have won include a GranStand Cockpit, a ButtKicker Gamer2, a GranStand Wheel Stand, and a Wireless ButtKicker Kit. And if you want to help organize our league, you can join TEAM S.N.A.I.L. and earn even more prizes such as shirts (e.g. S.N.A.I.L. shirt, F1 shirt, GT Academy shirt), electronic/gaming hardware (e.g. Hauppauge PVR), sim racing equipment (e.g. Playseat Evolution), and other Gran Turismo related items (e.g. GTPEDIA).

Spec Racing
S.N.A.I.L. was the first GTPlanet league to prohibit tuning in all of our races. This combined with the fact that we race in the same cars produces a type of racing called "spec" racing. Spec racing ensures that success is determined solely by driving skill and not by differences in car power, gearing, suspension, weight, or aerodynamics. Because variables in the car are eliminated, spec racing is the truest measure of driver skill! It also produces intense battles for position because all of the cars are equally strong or weak in the same areas of the track. Another benefit of spec racing is that you'll never spend time tuning cars or wondering if someone is truly faster than you or if they just have a better tune.

Race Format
Our league night lasts for two hours and is split into three rounds. Each round consists of two races that last 10 to 12 minutes on a predetermined car and track combo. At the beginning of each round, a brief qualifying session determines the order of the starting grid. The first race is set to 'Fastest First' to reward the best qualifiers and the second race is set to 'Reverse Grid' in order to promote on-track action. Points are awarded based on our "perfect" points system. After a round is completed, we move on to the next round and repeat the same process with the next car and track combination. Once all three rounds are complete, we tally up the points and then let our interactive format kick in.

Interactive Process
Our unique format allows everyone to have a say on which cars and tracks we race. It is also used to strike a balance between familiarity and variety of cars and tracks. In other words, the progression of cars and tracks that we race is slow enough for us to learn them well, but fast enough that they don't get "old". At the end of league night, everyone votes on which car and track combo they enjoyed the least. The combo that receives the most "elimination votes" is dropped from the lineup entirely. The combo that receives the second most votes is also dropped, but only partially. This is where our prizes play an important role in our interactive format.

Prizes
A prize is awarded to the divisions winners with the three highest scores. The division winner with the highest score gets Prize A. The division winner with the second highest score gets Prize B. The division winner with the third highest score gets Prize C: (NOTE: The three prize winners' votes do not count towards the car/track elimination vote)
Prize A: The right to select the new car and track combo to replace the combo that was voted off
Prize B: The right to replace either the car or the track of the combo that received the second most votes
Prize C: The tie-breaking vote if the elimination vote results in a tie

Promotion and Relegation
Although we split our drivers into separate divisions based on performance and skill level, we realize that our drivers are constantly improving and deserve a chance to climb the ladder of success. That's why we promote and relegate drivers before every season based on the results and data compiled during the previous season. This is also done to ensure that our races are as competitive as possible for all of our league members, top to bottom. Regardless of which division you're in, you will almost always be fighting to gain or defend a position on the track. Simply put, no other Gran Turismo league in the world can offer this much competitive racing to so many different skill levels.

Comprehensive Race Data
It's not always accurate to promote and relegate drivers based on championship points alone. That's why the massive amounts of data we track are invaluable to our league. You'd be hard-pressed to find a sim racing league anywhere in the world that tracks driver data and race results more comprehensively than we do. In fact, our S.N.A.I.L. Results document contains so much information that we have to archive old data to avoid exceeding the GoogleDoc's maximum capacity! You can use this data to track the points championship for each season and compare yourself to other drivers in categories such as fast laps, total race pace, total points, average points per race, and power rankings.

Rules
We expect all drivers to follow our OLR Rules and pursue good racecraft at all times. If you're not sure what good racecraft is, watch this video. It can be summed up in one simple 'Golden Rule' of motorsports: It is the responsibility of the overtaking driver, meaning the car that is attempting to execute the pass, to make sure that the pass is made cleanly and incident free. If you don't agree with this rule or don't think it applies to you, this is not the league for you. If you ever feel like a driver is not following the rules, please wait until league night is over, then file a Racing Incident Report. Our Stewards will review the incident and enforce the appropriate penalty on the driver in question.

Settings
All league settings are default unless noted below:
Boost: Off
Penalty: Weak (and Effective for Free Run) in Divisions 2-5. (Penalties OFF for D1 only)
Race Finish Delay: 90sec
Visible Damage: Off
Mechanical Damage: Light
Slipstream Strength: Real
Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption: Normal
Grip Reduction: Real
Vehicle Tuning: Prohibited
Driving Aids: Only ABS allowed in Divisions 1-4. (ABS, TCS, and Driving Line are allowed in Division 5 only)
Tire Restrictions: (based on Dealership PP)
Street Cars
below 450 PP -> Sports Hards
450-499 PP ---> Sports Mediums
500 PP & up --> Sports Softs

Race Cars
below 600 PP -> Racing Hards
600 PP & up --> Racing Mediums

Tuner Cars
Classified as either Street or Race cars based on this list


How To Join Us
Step 1: Post a request to join (do not PM me, just post your request on this thread)
Step 2: Watch the thread for a reply to your post (it will include detailed Time Trial instructions)
Step 3: Purchase the three cars listed in the latest lineup below
Step 4: Get an oil change on each car, but do not do anything else to the car (e.g. add parts or reduce weight)
Step 5: On Sunday night, join the room number of division you're are assigned. It will be posted on this thread 15 minutes before the races start.
If you are not sure which division you are assigned to, please check the Offical Driver List




I would like to join in on these races please get back at me as soon as you guys can. Thank you
 
This is really going to stess kcheeb out. We need to figure out how to get some of the admin/new driver set up off his plate ( I assume it still is).

I would like to help out more if possible, if there is something I can fit into my schedule.

kcheeb, please pm me if I can help.
 
It will be midnight your time. It would be great to have you on track as I have fond memory of lots of good battles with you Gamble.

Nowhere near where I used to be. The new physics is certainly a learning curve, but I will likely be hopping on shortly to test some of the combos, and to see if my neck can handle it (tweaked it exercising for the first time in a year or so haha)
 
At the risk of starting another heated debate. A possible deadline for new applications to be able to race on Sunday night. Something as simple as you must make your initial post and complete all entry requirements at least 48 hours before the Sunday night race in order to be placed in a division. If you apply or complete the requirements in the last 48 hours, you will be placed the following week. It might help reduce the last minute workload and division expansion/change we have seen recently.
 
I would like to join in on these races please get back at me as soon as you guys can. Thank you
@Biohazard2468,
Thanks for your interest!
We would love to have you in the league. Here's what you need to know and do in order to join:

We run a clean league by enforcing a strict penalty system based on the S.N.A.I.L. OLR (which is a modified version of the GTP OLR). We also expect all of our drivers to know and follow The Good Racecraft Guide.
Please become versed in both if you aren't already. Once that is complete, please follow the steps below to complete your entry into the league:

1. You take the S.N.A.I.L. OLR and Racecraft Test

2. You run the Time Trial and submit your information.

3. @kcheeb PM's you with your assigned Division that we feel will give you the closest competition. kcheeb will add you to the drivers list.

4. The Race Director or Primary Host from the corresponding SNAIL Division will send you a PSN friend request. Sunday night you will need to sort the online lobbies by friends and join the lobby named 'snailracing.org Division_1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6' based off your placement from kcheeb. That lobby will be where you race Sunday.

5. You drive fast and clean on Sunday 👍

The original post has everything you need to know about what to expect on Sunday night and what you will need to have completed in order to be competitive. If you have any questions, please feel free to post your question on the thread.

If you have a preference for car/wheel colour and racing number, please follow the instruction contained here.
To avoid duplication, the currently claimed combinations can be found here.

During the week we run a number of different events, we encourage all SNAILs to join as many as possible.

Welcome to S.N.A.I.L. :cheers:
 
At the risk of starting another heated debate. A possible deadline for new applications to be able to race on Sunday night. Something as simple as you must make your initial post and complete all entry requirements at least 48 hours before the Sunday night race in order to be placed in a division. If you apply or complete the requirements in the last 48 hours, you will be placed the following week. It might help reduce the last minute workload and division expansion/change we have seen recently.

How would this be policed though? Without private lounges that sounds like something that would be a bit difficult to take control over. I do agree that is a plausible solution if enforceable though, but most of the time I do not know if I will be able to race until about 4-8 hours before the races start.
 
How would this be policed though? Without private lounges that sounds like something that would be a bit difficult to take control over. I do agree that is a plausible solution if enforceable though, but most of the time I do not know if I will be able to race until about 4-8 hours before the races start.


The 1.03 update will theoretically have lounges, or similar though I do not know when that will drop.

Until then I suggest something like noon EST Sunday or 6 pm Sat night, whatever works for @kcheeb on this.
 
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Hey guys,I had asked earlier to re-join. I've been swamped with Christmas/New Years and should be good now to get back into the swing of things.Can someone send me a message as to what I need to do to rejoin SNAIL for GT6? I didn't receive and alert or notification if I was told last time? :sThanks!
 
That only applies to new members as Oshawa-Joe said. If you're an existing member, we know what division you are in and there is room for you already. It's the new members coming in the day of a race that make for last minute division addition and shifting.

If four guys apply and run the time trial on Sunday afternoon and they all need to be placed in D4, I can only imagine the headache of dealing with shifting drivers around to make room. If KCheeb knows who is in play by 9:30 on Friday night, he has a full day to make any changes necessary and another full day to get everyone notified of any changes. That has to be less stressful than trying to add guys on Sunday afternoon.
 
Team S.N.A.I.L. Update

Thank you to all of the members that have been a part of this special team and all of the new members for stepping up to help keep our League the greatest of all time! There is still a great deal of work to do and many important roles that need to be filled but at this point it looks like we will just have enough volunteers to have a great night of racing tonight. We really had to hustle this week due to adding another division but things should ease up just a little before next week. We are still looking for more participation in primary roles and there are many back up jobs that need to be filled. Many hands make light work!!
 
Team S.N.A.I.L. Update

Thank you to all of the members that have been a part of this special team and all of the new members for stepping up to help keep our League the greatest of all time! There is still a great deal of work to do and many important roles that need to be filled but at this point it looks like we will just have enough volunteers to have a great night of racing tonight. We really had to hustle this week due to adding another division but things should ease up just a little before next week. We are still looking for more participation in primary roles and there are many back up jobs that need to be filled. Many hands make light work!!
A list of available positions on this post would make it a lot easier for people to know what positions need to be filled
 
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