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racefan78 I've tried this let off the gas early, and it has helped more, however, I remember each time I did it that I was suddenly, desperately asking myself 'HOW EARLY!!!' . I am sure the first response would be 'it depends on the situation'. But could you try to maybe be a little more specific about this technique, is it kind of about 50 feet before the turn (like at the end of the long straight at SPA), or maybe 25 feet early, or are we talking USUALLY only about 10 feet before the turn, or when you are within 10 feet of the ahead car? Is a a very last instance thing, or a slow drawn out thing. Sorry. Is there a rule of thumb to kind of gauge when to let off the gas or, maybe, some cues, or racing points that you use to make it consistent. To be competitive, also, do you still let your speed be a little more, or match their speed exactly, or a little less than their speed? Then once you have the relative speed under control (for about what duration of time), do you wait to see their brake light come on and then mash your brakes as fast as possible--like me? (ready to swerve around them if they mess up in some way that allows space to pass?) I am sure that you fast drivers must even have good brake control in this situation.