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The button press sound effect I was talking about was when you're navigating the menus and you press X to enter a function on the main menu, or O to back out. You get a sound effect, kind of like 'boing'. Every race last night, the first time I went to brake I could hear it. Hopefully that makes sense :crazy:
Yeah I know what you're talking about now the boing. But I can't say I noticed that. I'll be listening tomorrow though!
We raced last week and everyone was out of order on the grid, totally messed up. Had it set to fastest first and people were all mixed up. Not sure if that's what you're talking about.
No... I mean the first race of the lobby I set up... I wind up way way way back on the grid.
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That's me, in the foreground, on the starting grid. :crazy: I'm in position #16 I guess. Except there's only 7 cars altogether on the grid, so why?
After this happened a couple of times, started doing the reset races.
Because like there was no way I was catching up before Mulsanne... so I only gained a couple of positions in the race because 5 of 6 cars went off together into the sand at the end of the straight. :lol: (Can't count on that every first race. :lol:)

In the "reset race" at Madrid Mini (Tuesday)... There were 4 cars in the race I think... I wound up at position 16 - I could barely see the only car that was up at the front of the grid, it was so far away!! And 2 other cars were back around the last corner of the track in back of me & I was in position #16 :boggled:... I didn't save the replay to take pics... but who knows if it would've loaded anyway if I did. :rolleyes:

Maybe it's this, last night at Laguna Seca it didn't appear everyone was lined up in the start positions properly. You know how it has the lines for starting position, everyone was not in sync with it. Everyone was line up nicely in a grid order, just not matching what was on the pavement
Oh no I haven't seen that.

But yeah there's definitely something going on kooky with the grid set up.
I know the Zero Cup does manual line-ups... maybe to bypass the problems altogether.
I'm thinking about shifting MMSHuffle starting grid settings somehow... maybe doing very short qualifiers or something - because there's always grievances with the grids or confusion or something that isn't right.

Last night we had a couple of big 'lag bombs' (good description) I think it was @goofytyler that 'exploded'.
I cannot take credit.
@KingKlingeling is the one that came off with that Tues. before the Daytona SS race. :lol:
It just seems that in the past couple of weeks, we've had lag bombs on the oval races (SSR7, Indy) . And so before the race he said, "Wonder who's going to drop the lag bomb today". :lol:

(Of course I think it's funny because I'm thinking of a stink bomb - as in pooting. :lol::lol: - sorry I know that's not very ladylike or mature. :odd: :lol: :guilty: :lol:)
 
DTC ran fine Tuesday night with everyone on 1.04. Only racefan had his college connection issues and everything else seemed just like 1.03.
 
Yeah I know what you're talking about now the boing. But I can't say I noticed that. I'll be listening tomorrow though!

No... I mean the first race of the lobby I set up... I wind up way way way back on the grid.
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That's me, in the foreground, on the starting grid. :crazy: I'm in position #16 I guess. Except there's only 7 cars altogether on the grid, so why?
After this happened a couple of times, started doing the reset races.
Because like there was no way I was catching up before Mulsanne... so I only gained a couple of positions in the race because 5 of 6 cars went off together into the sand at the end of the straight. :lol: (Can't count on that every first race. :lol:)

In the "reset race" at Madrid Mini (Tuesday)... There were 4 cars in the race I think... I wound up at position 16 - I could barely see the only car that was up at the front of the grid, it was so far away!! And 2 other cars were back around the last corner of the track in back of me & I was in position #16 :boggled:... I didn't save the replay to take pics... but who knows if it would've loaded anyway if I did. :rolleyes:
I remember a car being totally sideways facing the was to start that race.

Oh no I haven't seen that.

But yeah there's definitely something going on kooky with the grid set up.
I know the Zero Cup does manual line-ups... maybe to bypass the problems altogether.
I'm thinking about shifting MMSHuffle starting grid settings somehow... maybe doing very short qualifiers or something - because there's always grievances with the grids or confusion or something that isn't right.


I cannot take credit.
@KingKlingeling is the one that came off with that Tues. before the Daytona SS race. :lol:
It just seems that in the past couple of weeks, we've had lag bombs on the oval races (SSR7, Indy) . And so before the race he said, "Wonder who's going to drop the lag bomb today". :lol:

(Of course I think it's funny because I'm thinking of a stink bomb - as in pooting. :lol::lol: - sorry I know that's not very ladylike or mature. :odd: :lol: :guilty: :lol:)
More like log bomb:P
 




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I have time for racing and would like to find fast but clean drivers to race with. really interested in wendesday endurance races sign me up! was a member but had no time busy schedule but now I have the time. get back to me and let me know thank you very much
 
I was reading a post that says thete's some glitch that puts the host way back on the grid... I know im far from being the fastest guy in this league but this thought came to my mind several times.... since im hosting D3 my results dropped down immensly and i often qualify in dead last place. I tend to accept it as a fact that im slower than everybody else but now I cant stop wondering... Am i being a victim of a glitch? I really hope not.
 
The glitch referred to in that post indicates a start placement that skips grid spots. This doesn't mean you are not being affected by some other, as yet unidentified, "slow down" glitch.

1 down, 2 to go. Now, maybe they can focus on that tire/pit bug thing and triples support.
 
I was reading a post that says thete's some glitch that puts the host way back on the grid... I know im far from being the fastest guy in this league but this thought came to my mind several times.... since im hosting D3 my results dropped down immensly and i often qualify in dead last place. I tend to accept it as a fact that im slower than everybody else but now I cant stop wondering... Am i being a victim of a glitch? I really hope not.
I don't know what happens when it's in the qualifier. There may or may not be a glitch in qualifying for the host. If so, I haven't experienced it in the VCRC, as you can see here, I'm not last in the qualifier. (And I sometimes qualify in last place legitimately.)

What I'm talking about is when the room settings NEVER put on for a race qualifier session.
It's set to "practice/race"... and RGO - right from the get go.
We don't have (as of right now) any qualifying at all, not even in free run practice.

And when this happens it's PAINFULLY obvious. Like I said at times I can't even see the cars up front on the grid they're so far away!! So you would know this...

See these pictures from both angles....

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This is the RACE STARTING GRID.

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There's no way you could miss that you were being given the shaft on the grid line up. :lol:

Now... if you had it set to "race alone" :odd: - then I guess you might never know until looking at the replay.
But who the heck uses the race alone mode??

All that said @Schmiggz - there is a perfectly normal explanation why you might be doing worse in the races since you've been hosting...
I do too lots. I feel like I don't do as well when I host. (And I've seen this with other hosts - who seem to do better in my races than their own series!!)

It's because when you're the host - you have to organize things & make the settings, and answer questions, and make sure everything's right.
That means:
1) you're more distracted, and not concentrating on your racing 100%
2) you get less time to warm up on track before & between races because you're stuck in the settings screens & checking things.

In other words, while everyone else is warming up, practicing the tracks, and concentrating on the racing, or just sitting back sipping their hot cocoa & relaxing... you're making sure everything's set up right.

This is just a fact of being a host.

And why sometimes I lose my top here on the forum when people make unreasonable demands or unfair criticisms of a host/organizer.
 
I have hosted a race night, other than disconnection issues, I didn't feel like I was distracted.

Then again, it becomes a whole lot easier if you have a mic. You can just talk to people rather than (if you're on track) pulling over and coming to a stop, hitting the pause button, pulling up the chat, typing your message, and then waiting to see if the person responds.


And making sure everything is setup the way it is supposed to be when you create the lobby is also essential.

Although, with you being a girl, random creepy dudes that may show up (we have them on GTP too) will start getting creepy.

And another thing, you are the host, if someone wants to argue about something in the event settings, just tell them to get over it or 🤬 off. And if they still want to argue, you can show them the door. Your lobby, your rules.
 
See these pictures from both angles....

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This is the RACE STARTING GRID.

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This was definitely happening before the 1.04 update. I kept getting stuck at the back at Monza. Its some issue with reverse grid, possibly just the first race of the evening, and most likely on the host has an issue.
 
Sorry about that! Please disregard the "idea" that I had. Just haven't had time to formulate it, and as cheeb said, I'm out of town right now. Bottom line, you'll have that Wireless Buttkicker Kit before you can say, "shake my couch!" :)
Ah, gotcha, great!
 
I have time for racing and would like to find fast but clean drivers to race with. really interested in wendesday endurance races sign me up! was a member but had no time busy schedule but now I have the time. get back to me and let me know thank you very much
@jdogg11985,
Thanks for your interest!
We would love to have you in the league. Here's what you need to know and do in order to join:

We run a clean league by enforcing a strict penalty system based on the S.N.A.I.L. OLR (which is a modified version of the GTP OLR). We also expect all of our drivers to know and follow The Good Racecraft Guide.
Please become versed in both if you aren't already. Once that is complete, please follow the steps below to complete your entry into the league:

1. You take the S.N.A.I.L. OLR and Racecraft Test

2. You run the Time Trial and submit your information by midnight EST on Saturday night if you want to race this Sunday.

3. @JLBowler PM's you with your assigned Division that we feel will give you the closest competition. You will be added to the drivers list.

4. The Race Director or Primary Host from the corresponding SNAIL Division will send you a PSN friend request. Sunday night you will need to sort the online lobbies by friends and join the lobby named 'snailracing.org Division_(x) based off your Division placement from JLBowler. That lobby will be where you race Sunday.

5. You drive fast and clean on Sunday 👍

The original post has everything you need to know about what to expect on Sunday night and what you will need to have completed in order to be competitive. If you have any questions, please feel free to post your question on the thread.

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To avoid duplication, the currently claimed combinations can be found here.

During the week we run a number of different events, we encourage all SNAILs to join as many as possible.

Welcome to S.N.A.I.L. :cheers:
 
Well, this is good news
I can confirm. Two replays that locked up my PS3 a total of 12 times in a row yesterday just loaded without issue!!!!!!!!!!! 'bout :censored:ing time :cheers:
Glad to hear they got their act together. Now to get my man cave finished so I can get back to recording races. @DriftinAssassin ready to get the youtube channel rolling again?
 
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