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[Wolfsatz]

I mean White from the Solid category or White from the Pearlescent category.

I thought you were actually talking about 'printing' finishes. I like most of the Pearls. But like @Falango said, give it a try with both colours. It will highly depend on the lighting and other effects you may want to consider.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

Chrome is nice but not always, the reflections in the body are too pixelated.

 

[IceWarden]

Most of the extremely bright colors in the game look awful in photos. Some of you guys use the crazy orange, red and green hues and they are terrible in photos as they just blow out the exposure. I personally hate matte finishes for the body color as they just make the car look like a formless blob. Chromes are hit and miss...most are awful but some are decent.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

That's why I always went with French Racing Blue. Looks beautiful. But I like this white/black thing for the race car.

 

[nmcp1]

That's why I always went with French Racing Blue. Looks beautiful.

Yes it does. . .

 

[Falango]

The time you spent here asking could have easily been spent painting the cars and taking pics, haha. Try pics at different times of day too.

 

[Mike Lobban]

Wheel vs. controller.


I'm kinda sorry I started this rigamarole. Obviously I use a wheel and I believe a wheel is superior to give me the experience I am looking for in the "game". I am not saying they are for everyone. In last nights Miata race, there were a few guys using controllers and they were so smooth, you almost coudn't tell they weren't on a wheel. Other guys on a wheel looked like they were using controllers. So the issue to me is not controller vs. wheel. My problem is the guys on controllers who don't have the talent or the racing sense can make a mistake in or out of a corner with a better chance of recovering if they start to lose it. I am not nearly the best racer out there, but when I see a guys lights in my mirror dancing around from too much speed, AND IT'S NOT LAG, he enters a corner way out of the racing line, bounces around the corner, again it's not lag, it's the finger twitching the steering thingy on the controller. I have the perfect line and speed, (sometimes), and I watch this guy flying down the inside of a turn in, miss the apex completely, exit the turn sideways with smoke flying out from his tires, hit the grass, go sideways two or three times, bada boom badda bing, he's ahead of me. WTF.
Some of the best racers here use controllers and I really enjoy racing with them, smooth, clean and respectful. It's the other guys, the guys without the talent, the guys who rely on the controller's built in ability to save them from disaster. If you are using a controller, learn how to be smooth,, watch the successful racers that use them. Fit into your division or league and try to emulate the good ones. Even my Grandson, watching a replay asked what was wrong with that, (color not mentioned), car. It looks bush league seeing one guy dancing all over the place, and it's not lag and it's not a replay glitch, it's someone trying to race well above their abilities on a controller and getting away with a ton of mistakes that would put a wheel driver at the back.

So my issue isn't with the controllers themselves. It's the advantage that gives an inferior racer more control in what should be an out of control situation. In a dream world, we all could afford wheels, but kaka happens. We use what we have and try to make the best of it.

I can't stress enough how much fun the Monday Night Miata pack racing is. My hands were shaking after 4-20 minute races. Woo hoo. Super clean, super close and super exciting fun for all. Except for Noobs and Goobers, everyone is welcome.

 

[Wolfsatz]

Wheel vs. controller.


I'm kinda sorry I started this rigamarole. Obviously I use a wheel and I believe a wheel is superior to give me the experience I am looking for in the "game". I am not saying they are for everyone. In last nights Miata race, there were a few guys using controllers and they were so smooth, you almost coudn't tell they weren't on a wheel. Other guys on a wheel looked like they were using controllers. So the issue to me is not controller vs. wheel. My problem is the guys on controllers who don't have the talent or the racing sense can make a mistake in or out of a corner with a better chance of recovering if they start to lose it. I am not nearly the best racer out there, but when I see a guys lights in my mirror dancing around from too much speed, AND IT'S NOT LAG, he enters a corner way out of the racing line, bounces around the corner, again it's not lag, it's the finger twitching the steering thingy on the controller. I have the perfect line and speed, (sometimes), and I watch this guy flying down the inside of a turn in, miss the apex completely, exit the turn sideways with smoke flying out from his tires, hit the grass, go sideways two or three times, bada boom badda bing, he's ahead of me. WTF.
Some of the best racers here use controllers and I really enjoy racing with them, smooth, clean and respectful. It's the other guys, the guys without the talent, the guys who rely on the controller's built in ability to save them from disaster. If you are using a controller, learn how to be smooth,, watch the successful racers that use them. Fit into your division or league and try to emulate the good ones. Even my Grandson, watching a replay asked what was wrong with that, (color not mentioned), car. It looks bush league seeing one guy dancing all over the place, and it's not lag and it's not a replay glitch, it's someone trying to race well above their abilities on a controller and getting away with a ton of mistakes that would put a wheel driver at the back.

So my issue isn't with the controllers themselves. It's the advantage that gives an inferior racer more control in what should be an out of control situation. In a dream world, we all could afford wheels, but kaka happens. We use what we have and try to make the best of it.

I can't stress enough how much fun the Monday Night Miata pack racing is. My hands were shaking after 4-20 minute races. Woo hoo. Super clean, super close and super exciting fun for all. Except for Noobs and Goobers, everyone is welcome.

And now we continue with the evening news after our golden sponsors:

 

[JLBowler]

Wheel vs. controller.


I'm kinda sorry I started this rigamarole. Obviously I use a wheel and I believe a wheel is superior to give me the experience I am looking for in the "game". I am not saying they are for everyone. In last nights Miata race, there were a few guys using controllers and they were so smooth, you almost coudn't tell they weren't on a wheel. Other guys on a wheel looked like they were using controllers. So the issue to me is not controller vs. wheel. My problem is the guys on controllers who don't have the talent or the racing sense can make a mistake in or out of a corner with a better chance of recovering if they start to lose it. I am not nearly the best racer out there, but when I see a guys lights in my mirror dancing around from too much speed, AND IT'S NOT LAG, he enters a corner way out of the racing line, bounces around the corner, again it's not lag, it's the finger twitching the steering thingy on the controller. I have the perfect line and speed, (sometimes), and I watch this guy flying down the inside of a turn in, miss the apex completely, exit the turn sideways with smoke flying out from his tires, hit the grass, go sideways two or three times, bada boom badda bing, he's ahead of me. WTF.
Some of the best racers here use controllers and I really enjoy racing with them, smooth, clean and respectful. It's the other guys, the guys without the talent, the guys who rely on the controller's built in ability to save them from disaster. If you are using a controller, learn how to be smooth,, watch the successful racers that use them. Fit into your division or league and try to emulate the good ones. Even my Grandson, watching a replay asked what was wrong with that, (color not mentioned), car. It looks bush league seeing one guy dancing all over the place, and it's not lag and it's not a replay glitch, it's someone trying to race well above their abilities on a controller and getting away with a ton of mistakes that would put a wheel driver at the back.

So my issue isn't with the controllers themselves. It's the advantage that gives an inferior racer more control in what should be an out of control situation. In a dream world, we all could afford wheels, but kaka happens. We use what we have and try to make the best of it.

I can't stress enough how much fun the Monday Night Miata pack racing is. My hands were shaking after 4-20 minute races. Woo hoo. Super clean, super close and super exciting fun for all. Except for Noobs and Goobers, everyone is welcome.

I hate to be the one to tell you but your detailed description is a detailed description of lag. It's not the form of lag that causes cars to fly around the track uncontrollably but it's the kind of lag that just isn't quite keeping up with the movements of the car.

GT6 uses a prediction system to try and correct for the lag and what you are describing is exactly how that system works. When a car isn't transmitting data at a rate fast enough to keep up with what is happening on the track, the lag prediction system will "fill in the blanks". All the system can do is carry the car on the line it was on the last time the system received data for that car. This means that the car will travel on a straight line until more data is received. Once that data is received the car will be placed on the track where it is with that new data and then the car will continue on a straight line until more data is received. This process will repeat itself until the user's connection catches up with real time and the issues are more pronounced in corners. For those that were around when we ran the FGT at Daytona Road Course the lag prediction system reared it's ugly head and made a mess of driving down a straight. The car bounced off the rev limiter so fast that every car on the track, except for your car, was able to gain 3 to 4 mph on the straights due to the lag prediction system. The system would assume that the car would keep accelerating at the rate it was on but when it hit the limiter the car would slow while the prediction system would carry the car to a speed that it couldn't attain due to the rev limiter. This caused cars to "bounce" forward and backward on the straight as the data was coming in to the players. It really made the turn in point for the bus stop and turn one a guessing game.

 

[BayouSimDrifter]

That's why I always went with French Racing Blue. Looks beautiful. But I like this white/black thing for the race car.

That's actually my color of choice lol been using it since I joined snail.

 

[USERID_77a23]

"Mike Iobban, post: 10241406, member: 261650"]Wheel vs. controller.


I'm kinda sorry I started this rigamarole. Obviously I use a wheel and I believe a wheel is superior to give me the experience I am looking for in the "game". I am not saying they are for everyone. In last nights Miata race, there were a few guys using controllers and they were so smooth, you almost coudn't tell they weren't on a wheel. Other guys on a wheel looked like they were using controllers. So the issue to me is not controller vs. wheel. My problem is the guys on controllers who don't have the talent or the racing sense can make a mistake in or out of a corner with a better chance of recovering if they start to lose it. I am not nearly the best racer out there, but when I see a guys lights in my mirror dancing around from too much speed, AND IT'S NOT LAG, he enters a corner way out of the racing line, bounces around the corner, again it's not lag, it's the finger twitching the steering thingy on the controller. I have the perfect line and speed, (sometimes), and I watch this guy flying down the inside of a turn in, miss the apex completely, exit the turn sideways with smoke flying out from his tires, hit the grass, go sideways two or three times, bada boom badda bing, he's ahead of me. WTF.
Some of the best racers here use controllers and I really enjoy racing with them, smooth, clean and respectful. It's the other guys, the guys without the talent, the guys who rely on the controller's built in ability to save them from disaster. If you are using a controller, learn how to be smooth,, watch the successful racers that use them. Fit into your division or league and try to emulate the good ones. Even my Grandson, watching a replay asked what was wrong with that, (color not mentioned), car. It looks bush league seeing one guy dancing all over the place, and it's not lag and it's not a replay glitch, it's someone trying to race well above their abilities on a controller and getting away with a ton of mistakes that would put a wheel driver at the back.

So my issue isn't with the controllers themselves. It's the advantage that gives an inferior racer more control in what should be an out of control situation. In a dream world, we all could afford wheels, but kaka happens. We use what we have and try to make the best of it.

I can't stress enough how much fun the Monday Night Miata pack racing is. My hands were shaking after 4-20 minute races. Woo hoo. Super clean, super close and super exciting fun for all. Except for Noobs and Goobers, everyone is welcome.

I hope what ever you are seeing improves but ive raced a long time with people around me on controllers and never have i seen or heard anything as extreme as what you keep explaining outside of a poor connection or two or more people not seeing each other on track. Both of those will cause cars to be eratic with smoke and squeals. A controller will wiggle a bit in a long sweeping turn or when they lose it you'll see the car go from lock to lock quickly as they try to save it. Either way by no means do I see a controller as an advantage in a racing sim.

I hate to be the one to tell you but your detailed description is a detailed description of lag. It's not the form of lag that causes cars to fly around the track uncontrollably but it's the kind of lag that just isn't quite keeping up with the movements of the car.

GT6 uses a prediction system to try and correct for the lag and what you are describing is exactly how that system works. When a car isn't transmitting data at a rate fast enough to keep up with what is happening on the track, the lag prediction system will "fill in the blanks". All the system can do is carry the car on the line it was on the last time the system received data for that car. This means that the car will travel on a straight line until more data is received. Once that data is received the car will be placed on the track where it is with that new data and then the car will continue on a straight line until more data is received. This process will repeat itself until the user's connection catches up with real time and the issues are more pronounced in corners. For those that were around when we ran the FGT at Daytona Road Course the lag prediction system reared it's ugly head and made a mess of driving down a straight. The car bounced off the rev limiter so fast that every car on the track, except for your car, was able to gain 3 to 4 mph on the straights due to the lag prediction system. The system would assume that the car would keep accelerating at the rate it was on but when it hit the limiter the car would slow while the prediction system would carry the car to a speed that it couldn't attain due to the rev limiter. This caused cars to "bounce" forward and backward on the straight as the data was coming in to the players. It really made the turn in point for the bus stop and turn one a guessing game.

Exactly what i keep thinking when he explains it. ...lag or cars aren't being seen.

 

[Schmiggz]

I personally hate matte finishes for the body color as they just make the car look like a formless blob.

Jeeee thanks

 

[Schmiggz]

What about combos??? Any news yet???

Here Wolfsatz...

 

[JLBowler]

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The prize winners need to get it together and make some choices. I'm heading to work in about an hour. If I get home from work and there is no word from them, @DMacs13, @Die_Birdy_Die and @gotdirt410sp , some deadlines are going to be put into place so that selection can take place before Thursday practice.

Just to be clear, selections don't have to be made but we do need to see something from the prize winners. Just a note that you are testing and plan on making a pick is good enough. This is the internet. If you're not speaking up, we have to assume that you're not paying attention and have no idea you've won a prize and therefore have no intention to make a pick.

 

[Schmiggz]

 

[turnupdaheat]

It's now 10 hours since his last post but, although his communication certainly wasn't as clear as it should have been, common sense would tell us that @Die_Birdy_Die chose to freeze the R390. I fully appreciate he has to officially confirm this but I think it would make sense for @gotdirt410sp to start looking at suitable tracks.

 

[JLBowler]

It's now 10 hours since his last post but, although his communication certainly wasn't as clear as it should have been, common sense would tell us that @Die_Birdy_Die chose to freeze the R390. I fully appreciate he has to officially confirm this but I think it would make sense for @gotdirt410sp to start looking at suitable tracks.

You can get yourself in a lot of trouble if you start relying on common sense to prevail. You may very well be right in this instance but be careful using the perceived common sense of others as a guide.

 

[turnupdaheat]

You can get yourself in a lot of trouble if you start relying on common sense to prevail. You may very well be right in this instance but be careful using the perceived common sense of others as a guide.

Ain't that the truth!!

 

[aerolite]

D7 Data has been entered in the results doc.


RESULTS SUMMARY FOR D7

Pole Lap Honors:
Round 1 (Subaru @ SSR5): @Dr_Strange 1:36.063
Round 2 (Nissan @ Monza):@aerolite 1:57.948
Round 3 (AM @ Apricot): @aLmk 1:28.601

Fast Lap Honors:
Round 1 Race 1 : @Dr_Strange 1:35.653
Round 1 Race 2 : @Dr_Strange 1:36.291

Round 2 Race 1 : @Dr_Strange 1:58.322
Round 2 Race 2 : @Die_Birdy_Die 1:58.239

Round 3 Race 1 : @aLmk 1:28.763
Round 3 Race 2 : @cmbeal317 1:28.636

Total Times/Wins:
Round 1 Race 1 : @cmbeal317 11:23.988
Round 1 Race 2 : @aerolite 11:37.762

Round 2 Race 1 : @Die_Birdy_Die 10:02.755
Round 2 Race 2 : @aerolite 10:10.996

Round 3 Race 1 : @aLmk 10:33.570
Round 3 Race 2 : @SHOCKY_WELL 10:36.875

Congrats to the Overall winner: @Die_Birdy_Die

Tks to @nmcp1 for the layout.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

That's actually my color of choice lol been using it since I joined snail.

When did you join? I think we're in the same Division and then we can't have the same color. And whoever was here first gets to keep it.

 

[turnupdaheat]

When did you join? I think we're in the same Division and then we can't have the same color. And whoever was here first gets to keep it.

Actually, if you are in the same division it is whoever uses the colour first can keep it. In other words you can't simply force someone to change their colour just because you decide you want to use it.

Edit: Don't mind me. I thought you were talking about the colour you were looking to change to. If it is your existing colour and your moved to a division where someone else uses the same colour it is true that the more senior driver can keep it.

 

[brntguy]

Great looking banner @RobbiefromBC! However, if you ask @GamingPete nicely he might be able to make you a custom logo that says "PACK" instead of "SPEC" on that that metal cutout. Or use a different material altogether? For example, Pete's shown me some awesome carbon fiber designs as well. One of the benefits of our new logo is that it leaves room for a lot of creativity, as Pete has demonstrated many times. 👍

Speaking of the new logo, has anyone heard from @GTP_Vertigo lately? I sent a request to the owners of the various SNAIL threads asking them to remove the dots from S.N.A.I.L. in the thread titles, but I doesn't look like he's been on in almost a month.

In fact, I'd like to request that everyone please "remove the dots" from anything referencing S.N.A.I.L. - this includes posts, sigs, PS3 captions, etc. As I mentioned when the new logo was announced, we're rebranding S.N.A.I.L. to SNAIL in order to put emphasis that we're not just a Sunday night league anymore. It may be our roots, but we grew beyond that a long time ago with events on most other nights of the week. 👍

Speaking of which, does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for a SNAIL event on Tuesday nights? We haven't have a Tuesday event for several weeks, so now's the perfect time to speak up if you've been thinking an idea for a while but just didn't speak up because there weren't any open nights on the SNAIL schedule.


And speaking of SNAIL moving beyond just a Sunday night league.. What is everyone's thoughts on moving beyond just a Gran Turismo league? I know a few of you guys (like @cmbeal317) are are into Assetto Corsa for example and there was a brief SNAIL stint in iRacingbas well. Admittedly, creating a PC league might be unrealistic, but Project CARS will be on the PS4 next spring which means it'll beat GT7 to the new PlayStation platform by a significant amount of time. I know there are issues with wheel compatibility on the PS4 right now, but who knows what things will be like next year. If it lives up the hype, I can see a lot of console-based sim racers migrating over to Project CARS (and possibly staying with it even when GT7 launches).

I think SNAIL should remain just a Gran Turismo leauge. Experience with a thousand member racing group since 2007 I can tell you splintering up by adding different sims only splinters the group and weakens the league in a myriad of ways.
I have something for people to think about for Tues. Since the Wed.Nite Race Car Series is such a hit and is making some really close tight racing. How bout Touring Car Tuesday where each season has a different Touring Car only that everyone competes in. Stock settings etc kinda like the Wed.nite series. The racing I bet would be ultra tight for that also.

 

[vsfit]

D7 Data has been entered in the results doc.


RESULTS SUMMARY FOR D7

Pole Lap Honors:
Round 1 (Subaru @ SSR5): @Dr_Strange 1:36.063
Round 2 (Nissan @ Monza):@aerolite 1:57.948
Round 3 (AM @ Apricot): @aLmk 1:28.601

Fast Lap Honors:
Round 1 Race 1 : @Dr_Strange 1:35.653
Round 1 Race 2 : @Dr_Strange 1:36.291

Round 2 Race 1 : @Dr_Strange 1:58.322
Round 2 Race 2 : @Die_Birdy_Die 1:58.239

Round 3 Race 1 : @aLmk 1:28.763
Round 3 Race 2 : @cmbeal317 1:28.636

Total Times/Wins:
Round 1 Race 1 : @cmbeal317 11:23.988
Round 1 Race 2 : @aerolite 11:37.762

Round 2 Race 1 : @Die_Birdy_Die 10:02.755
Round 2 Race 2 : @aerolite 10:10.996

Round 3 Race 1 : @aLmk 10:33.570
Round 3 Race 2 : @SHOCKY_WELL 10:36.875

Congrats to the Overall winner: @Die_Birdy_Die

Tks to @nmcp1 for the layout.

I like this layout, mind if I use it for D8? I'll make sure to credit @nmcp for its creation.

 

[aerolite]

I like this layout, mind if I use it for D8? I'll make sure to credit @nmcp for its creation.

I'm sure he won't mind!

 

[nmcp1]

I like this layout, mind if I use it for D8? I'll make sure to credit @nmcp for its creation.

Not at all! Feel free to add your own flavor as well.

 

[vsfit]

The prize winners need to get it together and make some choices. I'm heading to work in about an hour. If I get home from work and there is no word from them, @DMacs13, @Die_Birdy_Die and @gotdirt410sp , some deadlines are going to be put into place so that selection can take place before Thursday practice.

Just to be clear, selections don't have to be made but we do need to see something from the prize winners. Just a note that you are testing and plan on making a pick is good enough. This is the internet. If you're not speaking up, we have to assume that you're not paying attention and have no idea you've won a prize and therefore have no intention to make a pick.

I've had more than one occasion that the prize winners were unaware (for various reasons) that they were given the all clear to make their picks until I PM them every week.

I've already got like 8 different combo's that have never been done as far as I can tell from the historical data that SNAIL keeps.

 

[Falango]

Are the prize winners PMd when the all clear is given? Sometimes the post might get missed by them.

 

[MajorBlixem]

 

[Die_Birdy_Die]

You can get yourself in a lot of trouble if you start relying on common sense to prevail. You may very well be right in this instance but be careful using the perceived common sense of others as a guide.

I can't officially "confirm" till given the go ahead but yeah I'll be freezing the r390 unless i could guarantee that @gotdirt410sp would keep the car then i would pick the spa for the R390 but since i can't guarantee i'll take the safe bet and pick the car! (and sorry been out all day had a Dr. apt I know its not like me)

 

[USERID_77a23]

The go ahead was given before you made the "unclear” posts