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*Sees a bunch of drama..doesn't care.
*Sees DLC for combo 2 and 3 thinks, man I better drive the wheels off the stagea if I dont want to end up last in the points this week.
 
*Sees DLC for combo 2 and 3 thinks, man I better drive the wheels off the stagea if I dont want to end up last in the points this week.

Dude, you race every week!

Skip a coffee or two, or maybe a 'semi-pointed elbow' here may help....
 
-This is a message from the emergency broadcast system-

The laps for Round 1 are 6.

The laps for Round 2 are 5.

-Now back to your regular scheduled programing-
 
I HAVE BEEN INCIDENT FREE FOR 4 WEEKS AMD NONE THIS WEEK. IN OTHER WORDS NO COMPLAINTS AGAINST ME.

I am mot blaming, I am telling a truth about an illegal maneuver.

He had been incident free for two weeks out of the six he needed. He had incurred six penalties since being put on the last chance list. That's an awful lot of last chances in my opinion. As someone stated earlier, the attempt to circumvent probation by changing his identity did not help his case.

Here's the link to the last Steward report from the races on April 14.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=235094&page=1346
 
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He had been incident free for two weeks out of the six he needed. He had incurred six penalties since being put on the last chance list. That's an awful lot of last chances in my opinion. As someone stated earlier, the attempt to circumvent probation by changing his identity did not help his case.

Here's the link to the last Steward report from the races on April 14.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=235094&page=1346

Coach got too much pride. That made the end of his era in the snail league. I wish Coach will understand the errors he made. :tup;
 
He had been incident free for two weeks out of the six he needed. He had incurred six penalties since being put on the last chance list. That's an awful lot of last chances in my opinion. As someone stated earlier, the attempt to circumvent probation by changing his identity did not help his case.

Here's the link to the last Steward report from the races on April 14.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=235094&page=1346

Agreed.

That being said, it's actually embarrassing how much time I've taken away from real life responsibilities to discuss Luv2Coach/GT5AddictGT5 drama. Whether it be on the thread, in a lounge, in PM's, or in the stewards thread, I'll never get that time back. Enough is enough and it ends here.
 
I was never notified of the aggressive driving this past week. I would like to know the race you're referring to. No complaints were filed b/c there was no issues, not b/c they didn't want to bother with it. And lastly, why is it I cannot get a rulomg for the illegal block? If it is legal, then others need to be informed it is ok to use it. It works like this: when on a straight, if you are going to be passed, simply slide over and squeeze the passing driver to that side. This will cause the passing car to avoid you, thus losing momentum and unable to pass. But be subtle as not to get penalized. If you think I am being untruthful, watch replays from the most recent Fuji, SS5, and GP/F.

To those that I raced with tonight, I had fun. That is how I race every time. I didn't change a thing. I enjoyed your company and close racing. I will probably join you again as it is still racing in a competitive environment with variety. And, I will race the Turtle league on Sunday. Good luck to you guys. See you in the pits.
 
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The Good Racecraft Guide:

Defending & Attacking
An experienced racer will take whatever line he feels necessary into any given corner in order to defend & maintain his place, he is entitled to do so as he has track position over the pursuing driver, remember that the fastest line is not always the winning one. It is the other chaps job to force him into an error, whilst still driving cleanly of course, or wait for one to occur naturally & then take advantage of it, albeit in the proper fashion. An inexperienced racer will, in his endless optimism, tend to stuff it up the inside at every unavailable opportunity when trying to pass, imagining he is driving well but making far too much contact & causing many unnecessary incidents.

The video above is a good example of both types of racers described.
 
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Hey Coach I saw the replay and no Illegal block was do, you was impatient and in a good position and maybe after you was about to get him but you always want more, tcrash was fast too. What do you want? Him let you pass, we are in a competition not a friendly room.
 
I though that discussions of this sort were not to be posted in the main thread. I understand zero's post because he needed to make an announcement but the rest is not necessary. This should be handled in the pm's . It feels like the mood of the thread has taken a downturn.
 
I though that discussions of this sort were not to be posted in the main thread. I understand zero's post because he needed to make an announcement but the rest is not necessary. This should be handled in the pm's . It feels like the mood of the thread has taken a downturn.

Agreed. Everyone involved -1 GrandStand point! :)
 
There were a few posts referencing defending and attacking; what is and isn't allowed. They were very misleading and confusing.

My post is educational, simply quotes the Good Racecraft Guide, and uses no names. It is my responsibility to keep everyone aware of, and focused on racecraft and the Snail OLR.
 
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The Good Racecraft Guide:

Defending & Attacking
An experienced racer will take whatever line he feels necessary into any given corner in order to defend & maintain his place, he is entitled to do so as he has track position over the pursuing driver, remember that the fastest line is not always the winning one. It is the other chaps job to force him into an error, whilst still driving cleanly of course, or wait for one to occur naturally & then take advantage of it, albeit in the proper fashion. An inexperienced racer will, in his endless optimism, tend to stuff it up the inside at every unavailable opportunity when trying to pass, imagining he is driving well but making far too much contact & causing many unnecessary incidents.

The video above is a good example of both types of racers described.


I am talking about on a long straight, i.e., plenty of time before a corner. So this is legal? Because this is exactly how it works: when on a long straight, with plenty of time, good run off a corner, and good momentum, the opposing car changes his line, after overlap, and squeezes the passing driver to that side. This will cause the passing car to avoid contact, thus losing momentum and unable to pass.. How is this legal?!
If this is a legal move, please say so. And if it is legal, why doesn't everyone use it at Spa or Motegi?
 
The video is an example of a long straight were the rear driver doesn't have overlap. You are describing something completely different.

Ok, I'm stopping.
 
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Please stop. There is no utility in continuing this conversation any further. What's done is done. No one is going to explain why anymore; we've done enough explaining.
 
Hi guys! How was practice last night? I was too tired to attend.

The Wagon racing is quite fun and the GT-R was actually not as bad as I would of thought. You can swing tail to drift a little easily and I don't think it understeers as much as other GT-Rs. It actually was a pleasure to drive. 👍

Both of them are great combos in my own cents. :gtpflag:

i don't get photobucket...yet

Hey Schmiggz,
Take a look at this tutorial; let me know if you have any questions.
 
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Amazing how a valid, illegal racing maneuver is not addressed. Why is this not clarified? Wow.

Too bad, the vote didn't come from all the SNAILs that have commented on my clean racing, and compliments to my racecraft. Instead, the decision was made by 7 people; of which some very seldom race with me.

I would be willing to bet, if I raced in D1, there wouldn't be all of this. The guys who were fast and drove aggressively in D2 were quickly promoted to D1 except me. I think it was because the stewards saw the speed and style, thus putting him where he belongs. If they hadn't, then the same would happen to them as happened to me. A driver promoted before the end of a month is to get him in a position so he isn't running over others on his way to the front, because he is so much faster. Which was the case. And don't make the comment as how I blame the other guy, or it's never my fault, etc. It is the truth.

I set the pole on a pretty frequent basis and in top three if not on pole, frequently as well. Look at lap times, again at the top. These are facts, not opinion. Most of my incidents were because I took corners faster and exited faster than most of the cars I was racing and it was mistaken for aggressiveness. I misjudged their entry or exit; my mistake. They were very slight contact incidents, or I accidentally spun a guy because he didn't exit a corner as fast. Since on probation, I have conceded the position back to the driver if I was in doubt.

And I would sincerely like to know why it is that I have brought up a valid illegal move, but it has yet to be addressed as such? I would think it needs to be addressed in order to prevent such a move in the future. If such a move is deemed legal then drivers need to be aware of the move so they can put it in their arsenal. Then that way, they will only need to protect their position on corners and turns, because that particular move makes it virtually impossible to pass on a long straight unless the passing car has an incredibly fast run on the lead car; like 30mph faster or more.
 
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Please stop. There is no utility in continuing this conversation any further. What's done is done. No one is going to explain why anymore; we've done enough explaining.

Amazing how a valid, illegal racing maneuver is not addressed. Why is this not clarified? Wow.

Too bad, the vote didn't come from all the SNAILs that have commented on my clean racing, and compliments to my racecraft. Instead, the decision was made by 7 people; of which some very seldom race with me.

I would be willing to bet, if I raced in D1, there wouldn't be all of this. The guys who were fast and drove aggressively in D2 were quickly promoted to D1 except me. I think it was because the stewards saw the speed and style, thus putting him where he belongs. If they hadn't, then the same would happen to them as happened to me. A driver promoted before the end of a month is to get him in a position so he isn't running over others on his way to the front, because he is so much faster. Which was the case. And don't make the comment as how I blame the other guy, or it's never my fault, etc. It is the truth.

I set the pole on a pretty frequent basis and in top three if not on pole, frequently as well. Look at lap times, again at the top. These are facts, not opinion. Most of my incidents were because I took corners faster and exited faster than most of the cars I was racing and it was mistaken for aggressiveness. I misjudged their entry or exit; my mistake. They were very slight contact incidents, or I accidentally spun a guy because he didn't exit a corner as fast. Since on probation, I have conceded the position back to the driver if I was in doubt.

And I would sincerely like to know why it is that I have brought up a valid illegal move, but it has yet to be addressed as such? I would think it needs to be addressed in order to prevent such a move in the future. If such a move is deemed legal then drivers need to be aware of the move so they can put it in their arsenal. Then that way, they will only need to protect their position on corners and turns, because that particular move makes it virtually impossible to pass on a long straight unless the passing car has an incredibly fast run on the lead car; like 30mph faster or more.

Please don't make me ask again.
 
Please don't make me ask again.

Amazing how a valid, illegal racing maneuver is not addressed. Why is this not clarified? Wow.

Too bad, the vote didn't come from all the SNAILs that have commented on my clean racing, and compliments to my racecraft. Instead, the decision was made by 7 people; of which some very seldom race with me.

I would be willing to bet, if I raced in D1, there wouldn't be all of this. The guys who were fast and drove aggressively in D2 were quickly promoted to D1 except me. I think it was because the stewards saw the speed and style, thus putting him where he belongs. If they hadn't, then the same would happen to them as happened to me. A driver promoted before the end of a month is to get him in a position so he isn't running over others on his way to the front, because he is so much faster. Which was the case. And don't make the comment as how I blame the other guy, or it's never my fault, etc. It is the truth.

I set the pole on a pretty frequent basis and in top three if not on pole, frequently as well. Look at lap times, again at the top. These are facts, not opinion. Most of my incidents were because I took corners faster and exited faster than most of the cars I was racing and it was mistaken for aggressiveness. I misjudged their entry or exit; my mistake. They were very slight contact incidents, or I accidentally spun a guy because he didn't exit a corner as fast. Since on probation, I have conceded the position back to the driver if I was in doubt.

And I would sincerely like to know why it is that I have brought up a valid illegal move, but it has yet to be addressed as such? I would think it needs to be addressed in order to prevent such a move in the future. If such a move is deemed legal then drivers need to be aware of the move so they can put it in their arsenal. Then that way, they will only need to protect their position on corners and turns, because that particular move makes it virtually impossible to pass on a long straight unless the passing car has an incredibly fast run on the lead car; like 30mph faster or more.

Typical. Wow...denial in action. No problem.
 
For my clarification and my clarification only, is what's demonstrated in that video a legal maneuver? If I'm on a long straight and someone gets a run off the previous corner better than I, am I allowed to run him down to the grass/wall to the inside?
 
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