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Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. I just thought something reasonable - no set limits - but no just closing the radiator off and running 400* all race. It just seems wrong to me. But, if that's what some guys need to do to gain a position or two, let your radiator boil. I wish it would start spraying steam and block the view! :lol:
 
Gr8_Lakes
Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. I just thought something reasonable - no set limits - but no just closing the radiator off and running 400* all race. It just seems wrong to me. But, if that's what some guys need to do to gain a position or two, let your radiator boil. I wish it would start spraying steam and block the view! :lol:
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To be honest Jeff, I usually forget about the radiator setting. I’m not that big a tuner and usually just do small tweaks to the suspension and gearing and go drive.
I have never even thought of people completely closing off the rad, that just seems wrong to me as well.
I’m curious about this now, so will look into it.
 
Gr8_Lakes
Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. I just thought something reasonable - no set limits - but no just closing the radiator off and running 400* all race. It just seems wrong to me. But, if that's what some guys need to do to gain a position or two, let your radiator boil. I wish it would start spraying steam and block the view! :lol:
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If your car gets above 230 on this game you will start losing power.....according to the BHP gauge. (IF you wanna call it a gauge).

The other option you have Aero is to keep damage off but turn on Mechanucal Failures. That will keep everything the same as it always has been except for the people who close their radiator too much
 
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I usually play around with duct settings, usually brake ducts. If it’s cold or if we’re on a track with long straights or easy brake zones I’ll close them up to 30-35% up front and 25-30% in the rear. Rad ducts I’ll close to 45-60% depending on weather.


I honestly can’t tell a difference on most cars, the only time I noticed was when we ran LMP1’s at Monza and shutting them completely made you lose quite a bit of downforce. There’s way more time to be made in setting up your suspension to be comfortable and effective than just closing ducts
 
I tried five cars at vintage Le Mans so I could get onto the long straight quickly and try each car with 0% and 100% radiator settings.
The two Ferrari’s we are racing this coming Monday, 0 kph difference.
Ferrari 512 M - 12 kph difference.
Ferrari FFXK - 1 kph difference.
C7 Vette- 6 kph difference.
I’ll assume from that then, that each car in the game must be different.
We will leave status quo, we don’t want to start putting mech failures ect on, remember, our night is all about trying to keep things fun and not so serious. If some want to put the rad setting to zero and get a bit of a cheat, then that’s on their conscience. And I agree with Robby, a good suspension setting is more important than most other stuff.
 
aerolite
I tried five cars at vintage Le Mans so I could get onto the long straight quickly and try each car with 0% and 100% radiator settings.
The two Ferrari’s we are racing this coming Monday, 0 kph difference.
Ferrari 512 M - 12 kph difference.
Ferrari FFXK - 1 kph difference.
C7 Vette- 6 kph difference.
I’ll assume from that then, that each car in the game must be different.
We will leave status quo, we don’t want to start putting mech failures ect on, remember, our night is all about trying to keep things fun and not so serious. If some want to put the rad setting to zero and get a bit of a cheat, then that’s on their conscience. And I agree with Robby, a good suspension setting is more important than most other stuff.
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It's that type of testing and knowing the little things like that which can make a big difference in this game. As I've said before.....I've got roughly 700 some hours on the game.....almost 75% of that is testing...not racing. Testing of all sorts of things. Although this is as sim as the console world has.....its still part game and games are written with codes and what not. It's no different than figuring out the best way to get thru Contra back in 1991. What is truly the best tire psi? Is what the developers tell you? Because I can prove them wrong. What is quicker on pit road? I bet I can prove the developers wrong. Does low fuel truly make you faster? Nope......unless it's an open wheel car and it does seem to make "slight" differences there. Although I have great insight on how the setups work and are adjusted on LMP2 cars in the real world......I'm not a mechanic but I have a very close friend who is.......he personally says that its almost completely backwards with how they would approach changes in the real world at some of these tracks. So as far as the game side of it goes.......one only has to figure out how it best works.
 
aerolite
I tried five cars at vintage Le Mans so I could get onto the long straight quickly and try each car with 0% and 100% radiator settings.
The two Ferrari’s we are racing this coming Monday, 0 kph difference.
Ferrari 512 M - 12 kph difference.
Ferrari FFXK - 1 kph difference.
C7 Vette- 6 kph difference.
I’ll assume from that then, that each car in the game must be different.
We will leave status quo, we don’t want to start putting mech failures ect on, remember, our night is all about trying to keep things fun and not so serious. If some want to put the rad setting to zero and get a bit of a cheat, then that’s on their conscience. And I agree with Robby, a good suspension setting is more important than most other stuff.
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That's awesome that you looked into it Steve. Thanks. The only reason I ever became aware of the advantage on some cars: Somebody told my they run their radiator completely closed for an advantage. They are in our league. I won't say who. We'll just call it, umm, radiator-gate. :sly::lol:

I tend to give a lot of credibility to @The__Camel just because I know how much he has invested in testing these types of things.
 
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Gr8_Lakes
Yeah, I don't know what I was thinking. I just thought something reasonable - no set limits - but no just closing the radiator off and running 400* all race. It just seems wrong to me. But, if that's what some guys need to do to gain a position or two, let your radiator boil. I wish it would start spraying steam and block the view! :lol:
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I think it

It only seems to be a huge bonus on the really fast cars at really fast tracks.
Gr8_Lakes
That's awesome that you looked into it Steve. Thanks. The only reason I ever became aware of the advantage on some cars: Somebody told my they run their radiator completely closed for an advantage. They are in our league. I won't say who. We'll just call it, umm, radiator-gate. :sly::lol:

I tend to give a lot of credibility to @The__Camel just because I know how much he has invested in testing these types of things.
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As much as a purist as I am , I've played the radiator game. But as per Steve's findings, it only really seems to make a difference on LeMans cars and Indycars on ovals.
Well said Camel. This is certainly just a game, and there are many 'disconnects' from the real world, including the human survival instinct (aka Big Ball factor). Closest we can do to replicate that is by leaving full damage on and making a rule that if you wreck your car you are done for the week.

I agree with Colts, make your choice and go with it. It may not be 100% accurate, but if we're going to go that direction, we'd need to force manual trannys with sticks and heel and toeing, not to mention 100 degree cockpits...
 
Hey guys, I was going to post this last week but, I first made sure to ask Mike or Steve first, and Mike was kind enough to allow. Thanks guys :).

So, I run in a room on Sundays on GTS called the Ring Rats and we predominantly run at the Nürburgring using the Nordschleife variation. We'll vary the cars but it's mostly Gr.4 and sometimes Gr.3 cars. We start at 2:30 EST. We used to run anywhere from 1hour to 3 hr races but they're much shorter nowadays, as I think it's 2 - 45 minute races for this Sunday.

I think Alex and Sgeti can tell you that the guys in the room are really cool and friendly. It's not cut throat racing, but it's no walk in the park neither :). Also, I think this can help those who are participating in the pCARS - GTS crossover race.

I'm sure you guys will know some of the guys and Ned - @GTP_Nail and Javier - @roamer2629 run the show and here's the link https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-ring-rats.381977/!

Thanks Mike n Steve :gtpflag:.
 
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Hanable
Imola and mugelo. The testarossa and the berlinetta i think. Mind you its 6 am here and im high af so i might be wrong.
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Did a lil practice runs the other day. Is it only me or the Testa Rosa jittery and slippery as heck? Especially on Imola. Could hardly even make a good lap. This on Automatic Weather "Track" tyres.
 
coltsjugg
Did you post the cars for tomorow anywhere? Ive missed it somewhere or youre slackin' again mike
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How long have you been here Colts? Info for the next race is always in Report #2, well, now that I’m back it’s updated every week. Mike wasn’t able to do that while I was gone. It’s also in the thread so you only need to search a page or so back.
I’m crusty right now trying to figure out spurt :banghead: :D
 
davidt33
Did a lil practice runs the other day. Is it only me or the Testa Rosa jittery and slippery as heck? Especially on Imola. Could hardly even make a good lap. This on Automatic Weather "Track" tyres.
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Mine drives like a dream, one of the best cars for me. I did some tuning to it at first, but don't remember - I know it was minor, prolly camber, and toe adjustments.
 
aerolite
I tried five cars at vintage Le Mans so I could get onto the long straight quickly and try each car with 0% and 100% radiator settings.
The two Ferrari’s we are racing this coming Monday, 0 kph difference.
Ferrari 512 M - 12 kph difference.
Ferrari FFXK - 1 kph difference.
C7 Vette- 6 kph difference.
I’ll assume from that then, that each car in the game must be different.
We will leave status quo, we don’t want to start putting mech failures ect on, remember, our night is all about trying to keep things fun and not so serious. If some want to put the rad setting to zero and get a bit of a cheat, then that’s on their conscience. And I agree with Robby, a good suspension setting is more important than most other stuff.
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I used to tune myself to the back...until I started using the race engineer...
But most importantly, you mentioned the Ferrari 512. Yesssss. It is a fun car to run on other tracks than lemans.
Also the other night pots set up a room and ran the mighty 917 can am car at road Indy. I thought I would be kicking ass, but instead I got it handed to me. It wasn't because I crashed, the young punks were just faster...
Anyhow, not sure if you consider running that beast in the future. If you do, practice a bit. I got faster once I stopped mashing the gas to the floor and correcting the fish tailing. ( had it on 100% boost)
 
If Colts is running his radiator closed he is only hurting himself. I have found that peak HP seems to be around 215-225 degrees. Like I said.....with almost all cars......anything over 230 will cost you power
 
The__Camel
If Colts is running his radiator closed he is only hurting himself. I have found that peak HP seems to be around 215-225 degrees. Like I said.....with almost all cars......anything over 230 will cost you power
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No, I'm not, but thank you for assuming its me. If you're looking for night and day type changes, closing your radiator isnt one of them. Does it make a difference? Of course. Will you notice the difference? No.

And yeah I forgot the cars are on the first page too aero. I found them eventually, I assume I hit the wrong page or scrolled right past it, how I scrolled past it I dont know because its dumb obvious.

aerolite
I was just mentioning this to Mike and Sgeti today. I’ll start a Convo for this tomorrow.
see report#2 Red.
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If you're talking about something like SRM race control chat, Ill cry.
 
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aerolite
I created a pm for the Rivals event for car choices.
@HazardLvL4 did you get a copy of Spurt?
@knuklefunk as you only raced one complete night and @ONESPACE as you have never raced with us, we will put you on a reserve list for now, as we are full with Lobanaro regulars.
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Hey, @aerolite, I hope all is well!

Unfortunately, no, I will not be purchasing a copy of GT Sport. I wish you guys the best of luck, and I hope my Project Cars brethren dominate. :cheers:
 

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