2008 Subaru Legacy GT 2.5 Limted: She's a keeper.
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Bah, Black is best
And honestly, I can shift faster than any auto I've driven, so I dunno, but you must be racing granny shifters, seriously. (And most people shift like crap I have concluded from all my stop light battles, for example, me beating a Celica GT-S at a stop light in my Corolla... took him forever to 1-2 shift)Pako, congrats. They are great cars and a blast to drive. And they have a nice interior layout I think, good drivers car.
Pictures are a must though, for certain
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Congratulations Pako, you've got yourself a great car. You;ve got the right colour too, you don't want black, it shows the scratches easilly.
Just out of curiosity, do you know how fast your car does shift? I can shift gears in my manual 306 deceptively fast. That said, as excelent as my 306's gearbox is, that cars not going to win any races against anything above a old Beetle in the performance stakes. It's a bit slow and lacking in the power department. A fun, fun car to drive though. The Bora is much faster, but not as fun to drive. Still I'm looking at replacing the two of them shortly. That said, I find it odd that you've raced more powerful manuals and consistenly beat them in initial acceleration, in a manual you can have 1st engaged before you start. It's a case of coming over the biting point at the same time you accelerate. If you do that then the manual should be faster. If you start to release the clutch as you start to accelerate then you have a few fractions of a second lead. It doesn't bother me either way, I don't race so I'm not even sure if my theory is right. For me, as long as the car puts a smile on my face, that's important. Ofcourse performance is nice and wanted, but a car that will put a smile on my face when I'm driving over the Pennines will win over a car that doesn't but is faster.
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That sounds like a w00t-tastic! Subaru! Nice choice. We must have photos!
Yes, lets trust Forbes Auto for all of our Automotive pleasures these days... But the article does have a point; MOST people won't be able to replicate the 3.6 second 0-60 times of the Corvette Z06, as most would probably do better with the street-start time of about 4.0 seconds. The difference here is that everyone shifts differently, and furthermore, depending on the driver's experience with a vehicle, they may or may not know how to drive the wheels off of it. This is why Car and Driver or Automobile do multiple runs trying to find the best way to launch a car, and then report (usually) in the magazine. I recall in Motor Trend that the quickest launches in the Evo.8 were at 5500 RPM clutch-dumps, something that NO ONE in their right mind would do...
Take me for example. I've been driving my Jetta for going on three years now. I know the torque curve, I know how much throttle to give it on a start, and most importantly I know how to get through the gears quickly. Thusly, I wouldn't have a hard time beating an MKIII Jetta with the 2.0L and a slushbox, no matter who is behind the wheel (thank the weight and power advantage!). Given enough time with any car, I'd assume that I wouldn't have much of a problem beating the slushbox version against myself in a stick.
The big difference with a slushbox is that you put for foot to the floor and hold on, with the stick you have to work for it. Not all slushboxes are created equal, and you often have to rely on the automaker to tune them correctly for the vehicle that they are in. Thats why Jaguar was so proud of their custom-tuned ZF 'box in the new XK, why GM wanted all of us to know about the shift-time improvements to the 6L80E in the Corvette, etc.
This being said, Corvettes with the T56 will still beat Corvettes with the 6L80E. The power losses are an extra 10 BHP in some cases with the slushbox (depends on which test you read), not to mention the weight differences, and the shift-time differences.
A good driver that knows his car will always win, its just that easy.
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Oh and Doug, there is a difference between knowing how to drive stick and actually knowing how to drive stick. The test would pretty much be, could you climb into my Jetta today and drive it off like it was nothing? Take my brother for example, who knows how to drive stick... He couldn't drive my Jetta easily, but drove his Sentra fine. I could easily climb into his Sentra and drive the wheels off it... Sure, it takes time to learn in every car, but I usually don't have much of a problem at all.
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Yes, lets trust Forbes Auto for all of our Automotive pleasures these days... But the article does have a point; MOST people won't be able to replicate the 3.6 second 0-60 times of the Corvette Z06, as most would probably do better with the street-start time of about 4.0 seconds. The difference here is that everyone shifts differently, and furthermore, depending on the driver's experience with a vehicle, they may or may not know how to drive the wheels off of it. This is why Car and Driver or Automobile do multiple runs trying to find the best way to launch a car, and then report (usually) in the magazine. I recall in Motor Trend that the quickest launches in the Evo.8 were at 5500 RPM clutch-dumps, something that NO ONE in their right mind would do...
Take me for example. I've been driving my Jetta for going on three years now. I know the torque curve, I know how much throttle to give it on a start, and most importantly I know how to get through the gears quickly. Thusly, I wouldn't have a hard time beating an MKIII Jetta with the 2.0L and a slushbox, no matter who is behind the wheel (thank the weight and power advantage!). Given enough time with any car, I'd assume that I wouldn't have much of a problem beating the slushbox version against myself in a stick.
The big difference with a slushbox is that you put for foot to the floor and hold on, with the stick you have to work for it. Not all slushboxes are created equal, and you often have to rely on the automaker to tune them correctly for the vehicle that they are in. Thats why Jaguar was so proud of their custom-tuned ZF 'box in the new XK, why GM wanted all of us to know about the shift-time improvements to the 6L80E in the Corvette, etc.
This being said, Corvettes with the T56 will still beat Corvettes with the 6L80E. The power losses are an extra 10 BHP in some cases with the slushbox (depends on which test you read), not to mention the weight differences, and the shift-time differences.
A good driver that knows his car will always win, its just that easy.
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Oh and Doug, there is a difference between knowing how to drive stick and actually knowing how to drive stick. The test would pretty much be, could you climb into my Jetta today and drive it off like it was nothing? Take my brother for example, who knows how to drive stick... He couldn't drive my Jetta easily, but drove his Sentra fine. I could easily climb into his Sentra and drive the wheels off it... Sure, it takes time to learn in every car, but I usually don't have much of a problem at all.
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Great purchase pako, the new Liberty is a real looker.
I read this post without reading the previous page, and for a second, I thought that Pako had gone insane and bought a Jeep!Nice choice, Pako! I've never heard a Subaru owner complain about their car
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Great choice! Congrats! Now you just have to endure the agonizing break-in period. Let's see those pics soon!
Don't forget the standard "Hello GTPlanet, I can crush you with my eyebrows, Love Pako" sign on the valve cover
Excellent, Pako! It sounds like a good deal on a beautiful car - I really strongly considered one just like it myself. I can't wait for pics. Enjoy it and have a great time with it.
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Guilt Meter? Awesome...it is to. More than once I was looking down with it pegged to the negative thinking...."I should really mellow out for better mileage".Honestly, I am not worthy of this car. The more I drove it, the more I felt guilty driving it. Can't wait until it's broke in though...... Keeping it under red-line, I had it up to 110mph coming out of third gear.....
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I think you've already gone past Break-in point. but, congrats, anyway.
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It's only got 100 miles on it now..., they say brake in is after the first 1,000.... I really don't know either way.
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Subaru says 1,000 miles. I say "How long can that take?" (puts 400 miles + on a car a week)
The guilt meter will get to you fast in that thing. I am curious what the average is you are getting, as my Dad's wagon is getting about 24 MPG. With it pegged you feel bad watching gas just vanish... and it does when you realize you burnt 2 gallons of gas in less than 10 miles
Looks good, forgot they have a slightly darker silver than I was thinking. But what, no heated seats? ;p Unless they moved the controls from the center console to make way for that knob, which I assume has to do with either the TCS or Engine computer (Center diff would be a guess, but the switch for that looks different in the STi's)
The guilt meter will get to you fast in that thing. I am curious what the average is you are getting, as my Dad's wagon is getting about 24 MPG. With it pegged you feel bad watching gas just vanish... and it does when you realize you burnt 2 gallons of gas in less than 10 miles
Looks good, forgot they have a slightly darker silver than I was thinking. But what, no heated seats? ;p Unless they moved the controls from the center console to make way for that knob, which I assume has to do with either the TCS or Engine computer (Center diff would be a guess, but the switch for that looks different in the STi's)
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Damn Pako, I would have said go for the Mazdaspeed 6, but after seeing how nice that car is, I think you definitely made the right choice. 👍
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I very much like this car, excellent choice! I haven't looked at one since they first came out, and I feel like I'm missing out. A stop at the Scooby dealer may be necessary next week, maybe get a drive out of it...
What kind of MPG have you been getting thus far? I would have figured mid-20s if you're driving it with a moderate foot.
What kind of MPG have you been getting thus far? I would have figured mid-20s if you're driving it with a moderate foot.
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Subaru says 1,000 miles. I say "How long can that take?" (puts 400 miles + on a car a week)
The guilt meter will get to you fast in that thing. I am curious what the average is you are getting, as my Dad's wagon is getting about 24 MPG. With it pegged you feel bad watching gas just vanish... and it does when you realize you burnt 2 gallons of gas in less than 10 miles
Looks good, forgot they have a slightly darker silver than I was thinking. But what, no heated seats? ;p Unless they moved the controls from the center console to make way for that knob, which I assume has to do with either the TCS or Engine computer (Center diff would be a guess, but the switch for that looks different in the STi's)
It does have heated seats..
Don't really need them though in this 100 degree weather, but it will be nice this winter. The controls are down by the emergency brake.I would suspect I get in the mid 20's as well. The sticker said 21/28 City/Hwy.
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The Legacy's have been having heated seats since '92 or even earlier, yes we also have a Legacy, old model unfortunately. But still, 300k kilometres on the clock, not even a single oil leak 
Anyway, Pako, are you sure you bought a Subaru? When I viewed that first picture, I just couldn't believe how much the Legacy has changed
What about specs? Did you already tested it qua speeds? 
Anyway, that's an awesome purchase, may it hold together forever!
*EDIT* Nevermind the specs, 110 mph in third gear?! Are you sure that's miles per hour? Wow, how many gears has the car, looks very fast...
Anyway, Pako, are you sure you bought a Subaru? When I viewed that first picture, I just couldn't believe how much the Legacy has changed
What about specs? Did you already tested it qua speeds? Anyway, that's an awesome purchase, may it hold together forever!
*EDIT* Nevermind the specs, 110 mph in third gear?! Are you sure that's miles per hour? Wow, how many gears has the car, looks very fast...
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Pako-> That car, really makes me drool.
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