2009 Nissan GT-R - Zero tolerance for asshattery

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We didn't choose to be bureaucrats
No that's what our mighty Ja made us
We'd treat people like swine and make them stand in line
Even if nobody paid us

They say the world looks down on the bureaucrats
They say we're anal, compulsive and wierd
But when push comes to shove you gotta do what you love
Even if it's not a good idea
Zoidberg!

They said i probably shouldn't be a surgeon
They poopooed my electric frankfurter
They said I probably shouldn't fly with just one eye
I am Bender please insert girder

Damn you for bringing that up in my mind, lol.

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Indeed there are other cars with similar procedures but I couldn't help it- I laughed out loud when I listened to the process for getting the GTR primed for a sub 12 second run.
You push two buttons and tap the shifter. I fail to see the process' earth shattering difficulty when compared the Ferrari F430, which is "turn a dial and push a button."
Maybe they are a bit much compared to the system the Porsche GT2 (which is essentially floor it and let off the clutch), but you can hardly fault the Nissan for being no more complicated than the Ferrari.
 
2) This one really got me... The preperations for doing an 11.6 launch were rediculus. Indeed there are other cars with similar procedures but I couldn't help it- I laughed out loud when I listened to the process for getting the GTR primed for a sub 12 second run. [/IMG][/URL]

you should see what you have to do in the new lotus.... you actually have to turn the car off....

Anyway assuming your at a track (where you technically should be) having the car already pre-prepped for launch control shouldn't be a problem. And if your going to race in the street then you can keep it in the correct R settings anyway if your that itchy for a race. Plus its not like you cant hold down 3 switches at once, you do have multiple fingers on your hand might as well use them.
 
A very interesting battle!

I would have expected the GT3 to do a lot better, but I was wrong. The GT-R put on an excellent show, however, I'd really love to see it at a longer track. Maybe something like Suzuka or Fuji? You know, let the legs stretch a bit...
 
A very interesting battle!

I would have expected the GT3 to do a lot better, but I was wrong. The GT-R put on an excellent show, however, I'd really love to see it at a longer track. Maybe something like Suzuka or Fuji? You know, let the legs stretch a bit...

+1 I cant wait for the day they do this on a real (long) track, ala Road America, or Suzuka like you said
 
Fuji's kind of my standard for the "High Speed Track," with it's ridiculously long frontstretch. Granted, it's not as good as it was, but it's still pretty fast. BMI rarely goes there, though, and when they run Suzuka, it's usually the East Section. the slow part.
 
Do they still do Motegi? That would seem like an excellent track to run all of them on, a good balance of acceleration and top-speed...
 
Christ! A 72.9 mph 700 ft slalom? On a dusty track?

Must've been cheater tires... I'm sure of it! :lol:

Still... that kind of puts the big Nissan's performance in perspective... those numbers are nothing short of awesome given the obviously dusty test conditions in the Edmund's video.

Hmmm... GT-R VSpec versus SuperLeggera versus Porsche GT2? Yes, please... I'd like to see that! :D :D :D
 
Best Motoring 3/2008

Cars featured such as the new Nissan GT-R, Lamborghini Gallardo, Porsche 911 & GT3 and Honda NSX-R battle, current Honda FR & FF VTEC cars.

great!
 
This one won't make American GT-R fans happy:

ExhaustNote
So much for getting a GT-R at anywhere near sticker. There’s no doubt in anyone’s mind that the 2009 Nissan GT-R won’t be sold at invoice. With the new cost associated with the GT-R business, a little market value increase is expected, as dealerships have to train their technicians on the new vehicle.

We made 15 phone calls to dealerships in various states including California, Virginia, Washington, Florida, Illinois and Texas. The general consensus is that would-be GT-R owners are, in a few cases, going to pay almost double the sticker price of the 3.8L two-door.

One of our first calls, a friendly sales rep at Nissan of Huntington Beach (California), told us, “We are marking it up. We’re seeing averages of 20-30 grand [from dealers]”. Another salesman at a dealership in Seattle, Washington told us, “It’s going to be like an auction, going to the highest bidder. Only the General Manager and owner of the store are allowed to sell [GT-Rs]. Just like an auction.”

George, a salesman from a dealership in Carson, California stated, “I spoke with finance and they said, ‘ it’ll be $50,000 over sticker.’” Take note, he was pretty nonchalant when he told us that the mark-up would be roughly the price of one 350Z and a Sentra combined. That wasn’t the highest mark-up we found; another dealership told us that it’ll be first come, first serve and that they won’t accept deposits, but that consumers should expect to pay “$35,000 to 60,000 over sticker.” Let’s see, $69,000 plus $60,000..

We’d be blind and deaf to not see a pattern here, but there’s no much interested buyers can do. Nissan plans to produce roughly 1,500 units per year through the vehicles lifecycle. There’s little supply and a whole lotta demand. Dealerships are expected to get between 2-8 units, most will be closer to the former with only high volume dealerships getting more GT-R vehicles. And even though the dealers are expecting a scant few vehicles, they’re still taking names, with one list up over 40 people. With odds like that, don’t even bother to put your name down on a list.

There’s not much that Nissan can do to “fix” this problem. When contacted for a statement Nissan stated, “We are being very vocal about pricing of the car with consumers and the dealers to reinforce the value. As you know, we legally can’t prevent dealers from setting their own price as they are a franchise, but we will do what we can to reinforce the resistance to mark-ups.

“For the sale of GT-R’s we are asking dealers to require dealer principals and/or Executive Managers to deal with consumers interested in buying the GT-R. This ensures that management at the highest level of the dealership is making the deal.

“Additionally we are working with dealers to look at the long term plan for the vehicle on how mark-ups may hinder that plan. We are working closely with them so that they are aware and understand what we envision for the vehicle beyond the first model year and ensure they understand how their active involvement will help with that. This is definitely a partnership (as with any vehicle) so we want to reinforce that.

“Allocation of GT-Rs will be based on a number of criteria including the sale of current 350Z models so that may help ease some of the mark-up pressure.
“Finally we are requiring dealers to submit pre-sale paperwork through our regional offices which includes the sale price so that Nissan can provide ongoing counsel regarding mark-ups of the vehicle.”
It’s true, as independently owned businesses the dealerships are free to set their own prices, but this is something that will only hurt the brand and GT-R moniker, not help it.

Not much of a surprise, really. I'd love to call my friend Benny from Gezon Nissan here in Grand Rapids and see what he had to say, but unfortunately, he retired a few weeks ago.

...Bollocks...

Thats an extra $7,000 over the MSRP on a 997T, just as an FYI.
 
Holy hell that is a huge mark up, I was expecting an increase but this is just ridiculous. I'm sure they will still have no trouble selling them though. I had a hard time accepting a $70,000 Nissan, but I do not think I would personally ever even think about a $129,000 one.
 
This one won't make American GT-R fans happy:



Not much of a surprise, really. I'd love to call my friend Benny from Gezon Nissan here in Grand Rapids and see what he had to say, but unfortunately, he retired a few weeks ago.

...Bollocks...

Thats an extra $7,000 over the MSRP on a 997T, just as an FYI.
Give it time. Many interested Americans who had their hearts set on finally owning a "Skyline" will reject that.

That kind of money will buy a R8, or 911 GT3 (RS have been discontinued). BTW, the MSRP of the 911 Turbo is $126,200, so it's around $3K over the Turbo.
 
Damn Yahoo! not knowing how much cars cost...

Yeah, they won't have a problem selling every single one of those initial 1200 cars here in the US. But it certainly doesn't bode well for Nissan fans, I would think? Either way, its still a steal at the $70K MSRP, but yeah, this certainly softens its blow just a bit...
 
Seems the GTR has found its way into Australia.

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Damn Yahoo! not knowing how much cars cost...

Yeah, they won't have a problem selling every single one of those initial 1200 cars here in the US. But it certainly doesn't bode well for Nissan fans, I would think? Either way, its still a steal at the $70K MSRP, but yeah, this certainly softens its blow just a bit...

Yeah, we'll see markups...but when these hit the used market a few years later, I wouldn't be surprised to see prices for that original run in the $40,000 range.

that's a steal.
 
How about a big ass wing?

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http://www.autoblog.com/photos/nissan-gt-r-with-big-wing/618890/

Autoblog
The new Nissan GT-R isn't short on power -- this much is known. Whether its sizable punch calls for the addition of an adjustable race-style rear wing is debatable. After all, the stock machine conquered the 'Ring in 7:38 without raiding the Boeing 757 parts bin for stuff to bolt to the rear deck. Engineers... they're generally a thorough bunch, after all. Now, perhaps this Japanese car owner is race-prepping his personal Godzilla, and if that's the case, then it's all understandable. We're probably just jaded from seeing wings like this on stuff like first-gen Altimas. With GT-R badges on them.
 
:lol:
If anything, negative responses to a GTR with a wing like this are a perfect examples of image being more important than performance.:rolleyes:

GTR with more downforce= Awesome in my book. 👍

Keep it up and the GTR might be worthy of trackday special status after a diet and proper tires are added to the mix. :mischievous:
 
Y'know, the Japanese are known for throwing GT wings on ANYTHING. Even your Precious F40. a GT-R's no big deal.

Besides, I'd bet this is a tuning garage's special.
 
Wow lame 👎:

Autoblog
Nissan GT-R can't take aftermarket wheels, unapproved race tracks are out
MotorTrend's Scott Kanemura sat down with Michizio Niikura, the president of MINE'S Motor Sports, the first aftermarket firm to get its hands on the new Nissan GT-R. The conversation centered on the roadblocks Nissan has put in place to stimy high speeds and limit modifications to the GT-R.

We've previously reported on how the GPS system fitted to the GT-R would remove the 111 mph (180 kph) speed limiter when the car arrives at a track, but according to Niikura, it will only work on pre-approved racetracks. However, the GPS sensor doesn't automatically remove the limiter by itself, it has to be manually changed by navigating through a series of menus on the GT-R's touch screen. While having to go to a Nissan-approved track is daft in its own right, it's even worse when you leave. After the track day, owners are required to head on over to a Nissan High Performance Center where a $1000 safety check is performed. Don't do it and the factory warranty is void.

Another rumor that began circulating after the Tokyo Auto Salon has also been confirmed: aftermarket wheels are out. Supposedly, all the GT-Rs on display at TAS had to be driven in on the stock rollers, jacked up and then fitted with the tuner's chosen wheels. Due to a sensor mounted on the valve stem, if the GT-R is driven with aftermarket rims, an error code is thrown on the dash. And although MINE'S has fitted a custom exhaust to their shop car, they've found that any modification to the intake system causes the ECU to go haywire.

While all these findings are draconian GT-R owners here in the U.S. won't have to worry about the speed limiter/track day issue. Nissan has said that the GPS system won't be implemented here in the States, but the future of tuning the GT-R remains questionable.
 
Sounds like something Ferrari would do, not Nissan.

I had actually heard about all of this, but not the pre-approved track thing and the post-track inspection, which is absolute bollocks. By far the stupidest restriction thus far.

LAAAAAAAAAAME
 
Sounds like something Ferrari would do, not Nissan.

I had actually heard about all of this, but not the pre-approved track thing and the post-track inspection, which is absolute bollocks. By far the stupidest restriction thus far.

LAAAAAAAAAAME
When has Ferrari ever done something like this? The only thing they do that could be considered bad is choosing their more loyal clients over others, and that it's incredibly hard to buy a new Ferrari.

Ferrari supports its customers racing, & builds these cars with performance for a reason. They would never disallow their customers from racing on the track.
 
This begs the question, why would you spend the money on this car when you can't use it to it's full potential legally or even illegally? I mean would you really even want to bother taking it to a track if all Nissan is going to do is yell at you for it? I'd rather have something with less performance and not have big brother watching over me.
 
When has Ferrari ever done something like this? The only thing they do that could be considered bad is choosing their more loyal clients over others, and that it's incredibly hard to buy a new Ferrari.

Ferrari supports its customers racing, & builds these cars with performance for a reason. They would never disallow their customers from racing on the track.

Ferrari has a tight leash on the people who want to and who have already bought their cars. This is the same thing, but from a mainstream Japanese car manufacturer.
 
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