200pt A-spec races

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Have people tried truck and Suv's? It still matters how much you put into the truck. You will get a lot of points even if it's tuned to the max, but the less you put - the more points you get. It's because of the size of the vehicle. If you know how to set a truck/ Suv up and know how to handle it, you shouldn't have any problems with winning. Although, you can't race a truck in the manufacture races. In the halls is where you could race them. I got 200 A-spec points in the pro hall. I raced the N/A tune race with the Chevy Concept truck/w minimum tunning. Won with ease.
 
Man, I missed this thread somehow. I wish I had kept track of my different combinations. I'm at almost 40,000 points with 42% completion, so I'll start keeping track of what I do from now on and compare it to what's already been documented. Great thread guys!:D
 
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Have people tried truck and Suv's? It still matters how much you put into the truck. You will get a lot of points even if it's tuned to the max, but the less you put - the more points you get. It's because of the size of the vehicle. If you know how to set a truck/ Suv up and know how to handle it, you shouldn't have any problems with winning. Although, you can't race a truck in the manufacture races. In the halls is where you could race them. I got 200 A-spec points in the pro hall. I raced the N/A tune race with the Chevy Concept truck/w minimum tunning. Won with ease.

yea this has been reported many times - a Dodge Ram seems to be the best choice since its the heaviest, and we all remember Famine's bit of research? :dopey:
I used a Ford F-150 and only got about 130-140. Need to get the Dodge and enact its name in the races :D Can anyone confirm if the Tacoma pick-up can get 200, since power-wise its much down on the F150, Ram and others.
 
RenesisEvo
yea this has been reported many times - a Dodge Ram seems to be the best choice since its the heaviest, and we all remember Famine's bit of research? :dopey:
I used a Ford F-150 and only got about 130-140. Need to get the Dodge and enact its name in the races :D Can anyone confirm if the Tacoma pick-up can get 200, since power-wise its much down on the F150, Ram and others.

The Tacoma will get the same if it weighs the same (ie loads). The dodge weighs a vast amount, but has enough power to go quite fast. IIRC the Tacoma is lighter than the dodge by quite a bit, but maybe the power difference will make up for it.

On a non-truck level - another race -

Dream car Championship - AMG Mercedes 190 Evo Touring Car - 200pts
Beat a field with 2 (count 'em) Ford GT LM's in on all the twisty courses. Trouble on Tokyo (came 3rd) and no chance at test track (but you can use a Speed 12/W12 Nardo on road tires for that). Can't beat the Zonda LM if it starts pole though. Get a field without it (or even better one with it at the back stuck behind a crappy Toyota RSC!)
 
route_66
Dream car Championship - AMG Mercedes 190 Evo Touring Car - 200pts
Beat a field with 2 (count 'em) Ford GT LM's in on all the twisty courses. Trouble on Tokyo (came 3rd) and no chance at test track (but you can use a Speed 12/W12 Nardo on road tires for that). Can't beat the Zonda LM if it starts pole though. Get a field without it (or even better one with it at the back stuck behind a crappy Toyota RSC!)

I also ran the DCC earlier this week with the Merc 190 Touring Car. I only got 189 per race but I guess it was the tweaked suspension that lowered it. Lower ride height, increased camber, max downforce, etc. I put on a stage 3 or 4 turbo at the Test track, which ever is the least available, I knew it couldn't hang without it so didn't try. My field had the Zonda LM and one GT LM.
 
Both of these series of races can be 200 A-Spec/Race Events against the proper field. Sometimes it takes a lot of exiting out just to get the right combination.

Moloch_horridus
Professional Hall: Supercar Festival [180+ A-spec] M3 GTR: NA2 induction; Chip

Extreme Hall: Premium Sports Lounge [196 A-spec] M3 GTR: Port Polish or NA1
Professional Hall: Supercar Festival - M3 GTR
After an Oil Change, and once on the grid, remove the Chip resulting in 498 HP with S1/S3 Tires against this line up of cars for 200 A-Spec Points per race: (I won all of these by only about 2.0 seconds average!)
Saleen S7 '02
VW W12 Nardo Concept '01
Ford GT '05
Cadillac CIEN '02
Spyker C8 Laviolette '02

Extreme Hall: Premium Sports Lounge - M3 GTR
No Oil Change with 380 HP and S3/S3 Tires against this line up of cars for 200 A-Spec Points per race:
Saleen S7 '02
Pagani Zonda C12S '00
TVR Cerbera Speed 12 '00
Aston Martin Vanquish '04
Aston Martin V8 Vantage '99
Other fields encountered in these races also yield 200 A-Spec points/race, but you have to change tires to S2/S3 in order to accomplish this.
 
TigJackson
I just tried out my BMW M3 GTR'03 with 380 HP against several fields in Hong Kong. Here are some partial results against this group of cars:
Mercedes SLR McLaren'03
Cizeta V16T'94
Mercedes CL600'00
Pagani Zonda C12S'00
Ford GT'05
Using a combination of S3/S3 Tires versus this field yields 194 A-Spec Points.
Using a combination of S2/S3 Tires versus this field yields 200 A-Spec Points.
Both are easy victories and this is the field that I will look for when I run the remaining races in this category. There must be a field that will get one 200 A-Spec points even using S3/S3 Tires, but I need more time to find it.


When I did this, I had the following:
M3 GTR w/Port Polish for 388hp against McLaren, Cizetta, Zonda C12s, GT and Merc CL600 was worth 197p (used for Cote, High Speed Ring and HK)
M3 GTR w/PP+NA1 for 426hp against Saleen S7, Zonda C12s, Speed 12, Vanquish and Vantage for 196p (Used for Paris and NY)

Default tires.

So yeah, getting a 200p lineup shouldn't be too hard. After all, the CL600 definitely dragged the points down.

Fun Moment: Realizing just HOW BAD the computer is at High Speed Ring. You think you'll get kiledl but... it's a place where all the faster cars don't seem to have any speed... :lol:
 
There's a Tip I think may be useful for you guys... Had it in my FAQ but that's taking a long tim so I'll just toss it out and see if it helps. I'm sure many of you have experienced the frustration of dealing with big lineup changes that create huge points swings. And once you've won on race, how do you make sure to get the same lineup without having to go through the pain of searching through another dozen lineups?


A Systematic way of Hunting for A-Spec points (what can I say, I'm an engineer) ;)

(Oh, and BTW: this is under construction... all contributions are welcome)

What I do is the following...

1) Preview the race a few times to see the target cars + their HP (this indicates whether the opponents are souped up or stock).

2) Go to my garage, sorted by Power to pick a range (usually within 3-5 pages of each other) of cars I'd like to test. A good rule of thumb is a median point around 75% of your opponents HP. Weight and Downforce have a massive effect as well so these are taken into consideration when choosing trial cars.

3) It is *preferable* to have a bunch of different tire and power options already installed on your car. That way you can play around with them against the same lineupby quitting and reentering the race. Drivetrain and suspension upgrades do NOT affect A-Spec points when installed (changing the tranny doesn't affect points although I suspect changing the ride height may - need to test ) . Neither does Nitrous but I like to avoid it because it's kinda cheap.

3) Pick a car, and enter a race. Write down the lineup and points. Repeat this 3-5 times. If the points are decent, race a lap or two to see if you think you can win. If you're points are close to 200p, you may wish to play with the different mods. I personally recommend trying softer tires before more power (if you're already at 200p) and vice versa... take off power before reducing tires. This will depend on the track of course. Tires are more important for places like Hong Kong and Cote but not as important for Seoul, NY or Tokyo which favor power. (Actually, Tokyo is probably the most balanced between needing downforce, power and tires). And then there's El Cap, which the computer is terrible at :sly:

3a) If the lineups are terrible it may be a good idea to advance a few days and try again.

4) Do NOT return to the main menu. RESET the console instead.

5) Go to your garage and pick another car. If you notice, the same SET of lineups will be repeated. This works 95% of the time. Sometimes, as you're testing different cars the lineup will FORK. The first lineup will always be the same but the second may change depending on the car. This happened at Dream Car but requires further testing.

5a) NOTE: In general, you can get an oil change, buy parts

6) When picking another car, the questions come up. Do I want to go with a slighty faster car against a harder lineup, or a slower car against a wimpier lineup? That really depends on the makeup of the average lineup. If there are a couple stand out cars... it may be best to wait until they're not in the lineup. The most severe example of this is the 427 at World Classics. Sometimes, you want the stand out car to be there but be BURIED in the lineup. The most severe example of this is the Black Pool Racers. It's actually to a good idea to have the Speed 12 show up as long as he starts 5th ;) OTOH, sometimes, you need to make sure the lineup is "pure". This is especially true of the LM and Group C/LMP races. If a Vertigo or Camaro shows up at GT World, your points will be gutted.

Example: Dream Car

BMW M3 GTR Race Car
vs RSC Rally Raid, Zonda LM, Suby TC, RX-8 LM, GT Spec II == 111p
vs Jag XJ220, Ford GT, Nissan GT-R Concept, Camaro, 350Z == 178p (IIRC)
pop on R2 tires and I hit the magical 200p!


7) Here's the fun part... Locking Down A Lineup:
Well, after all that work, you certainly don't want to have to redo it, right?

In a championship it's easy:
a) you can check through different lineups at NO penalty (win/loss unaffected) as long as you quit the championship before entering a race.
b) Make sure to save after each race by exiting(press triangle) to the main menu. When you've found a lineup and start racing, if you're having problems beating a track but know it's difficult to find the same lineup, you can reset and try again. Cheap, but effective.

In an individual race, there's a bit more.
a) Find your lineup and start racing. After you win, return to the main menu so your game is saved. Don't do anything more. RESET your console. Go into Race #2 and you'll notice that same set of lineups is there. Find your lineup and start racing. Repeat.

Partially due to this proces, I prefer not to qualify. Too skewed that way...



Anyway, hope that helps... any feedback, refinements to this process you'd like to make are welcome.
 
jdw
Fun Moment: Realizing just HOW BAD the computer is at High Speed Ring. You think you'll get killed but... it's a place where all the faster cars don't seem to have any speed... :lol:
I submitted a stronger line up in Post No. 156 that included the TVR Cerbera Speed 12 '00 and I was pleasantly surprised to see how fast this car was catching up on the last two laps....I didn't look at the replay, but I suppose it was after he passed up some cars and warmed up his tires, but he was really flying there at the end.
 
For the DTM Championship and the Pan Euro, what is the best car that gives the biggest amount of A-Spec pts (not talking of 200, but something near without being too difficult to win)
 
mkay
For the DTM Championship and the Pan Euro, what is the best car that gives the biggest amount of A-Spec pts (not talking of 200, but something near without being too difficult to win)

For DTM use the AMG Mercedes 190 touring car. 128pts stock IIRC and not hard to win. Stick R1's on it for 150+pts and a tougher time. For 200pts you'll need ballast I think (haven't tried for 200 at DTM yet.)

For Pan Euro..............errr......I'll get back to you in a little while!

EDIT: I'm back and I suggest the BMW M3 CSL for the Pan Euro. Stock. It can win quite easily and it can get 200pts depending on the line up (200pts was against the McMerc SLR, which I beat comfortably)
 
TigJackson
I just tried out my BMW M3 GTR'03 with 380 HP against several fields in Hong Kong. Here are some partial results against this group of cars:
Mercedes SLR McLaren'03
Cizeta V16T'94
Mercedes CL600'00
Pagani Zonda C12S'00
Ford GT'05
Using a combination of S3/S3 Tires versus this field yields 194 A-Spec Points.
Using a combination of S2/S3 Tires versus this field yields 200 A-Spec Points.
Both are easy victories and this is the field that I will look for when I run the remaining races in this category. There must be a field that will get one 200 A-Spec points even using S3/S3 Tires, but I need more time to find it.

Ah yes... I went back to these races last night to finish them off and realised that I had made a mistake in my earlier post...

It wasn't the Vantage in my race it was the Ford GT...

I did however manage to lose whilst at Opera (I clipped the sticky outy bit on the fast corner on the back straight and spun out facing backwards... then got rammed by 3rd placer... thus losing 15 seconds!

C.
 
route_66
For DTM use the AMG Mercedes 190 touring car. 128pts stock IIRC and not hard to win. Stick R1's on it for 150+pts and a tougher time. For 200pts you'll need ballast I think (haven't tried for 200 at DTM yet.)

My favourite car in GT4 👍

I am running this series for cash now. AMG Merc 190 E Evo II Touring Car with: R2 tyres, Ballast=200lbs, and no oil (382hp in the settings screen/376hp in the replay) will yield 175 pts! :dopey:

When I re-run the series, I will buy R1 tyres to see what the deal is to see if it will yield the magical 200pts.

BTW, here is my field:
ABT Audi TT-R
AMG Merc 190 E Evo II (mine and a comp car)
Opel Astra Touring
Alfa Romeo 155 2.5 V6 TI
Opel Calbra Touring

The joy is that on Paris Opera (one of my favs! :) ) it is a pretty easy win. On courses with long straights, just keep your head and draft. 💡

Keep the races comin' guys! :cheers:
 
Professional League, Turbo races .....
I took Lotus Esprit Turbo HC 1987, tune to around 230hp, s3 tyres, customized gear ratio, triple plate, fly wheel .... you can get 200 A-spec pts, and win. P.s gear ratios have different setup accordingly. otherwise you might be beaten up ugly at Fuji 80' ......
 
I apologize if this has already been posted, but I didn't see it in your last update:

All American Championship-: Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R '00

Aspec: Seattle-200pts

Mods:
Exhaust-racing
Chip-sport
Tires- R3
Nitrous
Brakes
Suspension-racing
Tranny-full custom
Clutch-triple
Flywheel-racing
Carbon driveshaft
Limited Slip-full custom

Field:
Ford GT LM Race Car Spec II '04
Ford GT40 Race Car '69
Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca '00
Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C2) Raec Car '63
Panoz Esperante GTR-1 Race Car '98

ADD: Infinion-200pts, El Capitan-200pts

EDIT II: And add New York-200pts and Laguna-200pts
 
Anyone used the Merc SLR McLaren for "Like The Wind" yet? I've modded it quite a bit and it still says 200pts - although i still need the custom gearbox - the OE one just doesn't have the top end...

...and needs more power...
 
Dodge Ram at Polyphony Digital cup - 200pts . Cheap and I still needed to reset the field about a million times to get one with no Ford GT, BMW M3 or Merc SL 55. Grrrrrrr. Anybody got this series in anything that's not a great fat truck (though I don't feel so bad this time, the Truck is stock and fighting with Imprezas and 350Z's is pretty good). I tried the Spoon Fit RAce car first (thought it must be good for something) Stuck S2's on it and got 193pts to race a GT. I don't care how good your lines are, 500+ Hp GT > 126hp Spoon. Stupid lineup.
 
route_66
Dodge Ram at Polyphony Digital cup - 200pts . Cheap and I still needed to reset the field about a million times to get one with no Ford GT, BMW M3 or Merc SL 55. Grrrrrrr. Anybody got this series in anything that's not a great fat truck (though I don't feel so bad this time, the Truck is stock and fighting with Imprezas and 350Z's is pretty good). I tried the Spoon Fit RAce car first (thought it must be good for something) Stuck S2's on it and got 193pts to race a GT. I don't care how good your lines are, 500+ Hp GT > 126hp Spoon. Stupid lineup.

How would the Spoon S2000 fare - far nicer car to drive, and a bit more power??

and agreed - some line-ups are just stupid. Like difficulty +5 in family cup, put my Hommell Berlinetta against JGTC cars. :crazy: No matter how good I could have driven, I would have lost.
 
RenesisEvo
How would the Spoon S2000 fare - far nicer car to drive, and a bit more power??

and agreed - some line-ups are just stupid. Like difficulty +5 in family cup, put my Hommell Berlinetta against JGTC cars. :crazy: No matter how good I could have driven, I would have lost.

I suspect the spoon would have too much power, I tried the Toyota Tacoma which has 250hp and more weight than the S2000 and it got offerd less than 100pts most of the time and was toast. Especially since there's always at least two cars (mini ones, toyota yaris) that bodge the field up. Maybe the only way is something truly rubbish (A micra or something) and just sit there until the field finally has all rubbish cars. A stupid bodge of what was a good race in GT3.
 
My personal favorite 200pt race is the Amuse S2000 R1 (The Best Motoring Touge Monster) on Tsukuba Wet (Medium). Whooping a Saleen S7, and a GT40 w/ less than 280hp is sweet, plus your skills improve significantly in the wet.

Plus, you get a $100,000 Mazdaspeed 6 touring car in 3 laps, all averaging just about 3 minutes or so.
 
route_66
I suspect the spoon would have too much power, I tried the Toyota Tacoma which has 250hp and more weight than the S2000 and it got offerd less than 100pts most of the time and was toast. Especially since there's always at least two cars (mini ones, toyota yaris) that bodge the field up. Maybe the only way is something truly rubbish (A micra or something) and just sit there until the field finally has all rubbish cars. A stupid bodge of what was a good race in GT3.

One does wonder if the A-spec system is so messed up, that it aint worth bothering with at all? I fully intend on trying to maximise my points, but so far Ive found it frustrating, annoying and mind-boggling, not competitive fun. GT3 was better - you could get an old Mini (thats a good point for a start lol) and beat a Viper with it. I doubt GT4 would let you. The line-ups are just too varied in some races for the A-spec points to work. Mini Racing is a prime example - 88bhp Mini One against the 150bhp+ of the Cooper S. I barely kept up in a tuned Cooper S for 30pts - how on earth would a One cope?

A-spec is frustration, B-spec is pointless. I preferred GT3 - you could drive whatever you wanted, wherever. As hard or as easy as you wanted, no point system telling you otherwise (literally). GT2's restrictions proved a little frustrating, and whoever said they were competitive was not correct... I always ended up killing them anyway with power under the limit.

*tries not to put GT3 in PS2*
 
RenesisEvo
One does wonder if the A-spec system is so messed up, that it aint worth bothering with at all? I fully intend on trying to maximise my points, but so far Ive found it frustrating, annoying and mind-boggling, not competitive fun. GT3 was better - you could get an old Mini (thats a good point for a start lol) and beat a Viper with it. I doubt GT4 would let you. The line-ups are just too varied in some races for the A-spec points to work. Mini Racing is a prime example - 88bhp Mini One against the 150bhp+ of the Cooper S. I barely kept up in a tuned Cooper S for 30pts - how on earth would a One cope?

A-spec is frustration, B-spec is pointless. I preferred GT3 - you could drive whatever you wanted, wherever. As hard or as easy as you wanted, no point system telling you otherwise (literally). GT2's restrictions proved a little frustrating, and whoever said they were competitive was not correct... I always ended up killing them anyway with power under the limit.

*tries not to put GT3 in PS2*

Well, it's definitely messed up. No question about that. I'd say PD's single biggest mistake was using an average of the entire field to determine your A-Spec points, particularly when the lineup has a lot of diversity. :dunce: Realizing this is the single most important issue for find A-Spec points. Trying a few different lineups is key.

Allowing Nitrous to be used without affecting A-Spec points was Mistake #2. :yuck:

There's about a 1/2 dozen races that are ridiculous with A-Spec points due to the lineup variety (World Classics, European Classic, PD Cup, and a couple others) and maybe a dozen which are also painful (such as the Mini you mentioned)...

But, beyond that there's a LOT of room to find A-Spec points. Just look at the list and see how many blanks have been filled in already!


For me, as broken as it is, I like the indication of challenge. It's something that was always missing from prior GTs. I now have incentive to try for more difficult races. So, IMO, it's "better than nothing". People who don't *care* about points can still make the races as hard or easy as they like with GT4. And you can still drive (pretty much) whatever you like, just like GT3. So what's the disadvantage other than the knowledge that, from the game's point of view, you may not have a competitive race?


BTW: Yeah the Mini race is tough on points. I did manage 41p on 2 races with a Cooper + NA1. Trick is to make sure only one "One" is in the lineup and the Cooper-S (hopefully you'll get two) is in the back. With bad tires and Nitrous I'd imagine you could push it up to around 60-100p depending on the track.

Maybe even more with the One?

See my writeup on a systematic approach for A-spec points and let me know if that helps at all. I can't help much with reducing annoyance, but hopefully it can alleviate some frustration?
 
I'd say PD's single biggest mistake was using an average of the entire field to determine your A-Spec points, particularly when the lineup has a lot of diversity
Interesting, according to Famine and others, it's based on the best car in the field. I tend to agree from what I've seen, but then the Mini racing seems to disprove this.:boggled:

Well the frustration comes from my natural habit of having a 100% win ratio - achieved in GT2, lost out for some reason on 1 of 1230 in GT3... so endless re-setting and playin about. If I ever get my other memory card back off my sister (she's 22 lol) I could have a 2nd file, where I can test it all out at will, which would make me a lot happier. 💡

The list is coming along great - and I hope I can contribute more than just my Lupo in FF. What I can say is good luck for Legend of Silver Arrow - the SLR really messes it all up, and Ive never seen a line-up without one (I have tried, oh I have tried.) 3pts and my poor SL500 got wiped in A-spec; B-spec just managed to overtake as his tyres went orange. I got revenge with 1 A-spec point from the CLK-DTM car I won as a result.

It is annoying to see "1pt" on the screen, but I guess at the end of the day it doesnt matter too much - as long as I enjoy myself. I can't believe I havent fully tuned a car yet - in GT3 it was either all or nothing.

Anyway - my praise to route_66 and others who have made this a superb thread - and I shall be using the list to guide me when I return to my PS2 in 3 weeks' time.
 
RenesisEvo
Interesting, according to Famine and others, it's based on the best car in the field. I tend to agree from what I've seen, but then the Mini racing seems to disprove this.:boggled:

Well the frustration comes from my natural habit of having a 100% win ratio - achieved in GT2, lost out for some reason on 1 of 1230 in GT3... so endless re-setting and playin about. If I ever get my other memory card back off my sister (she's 22 lol) I could have a 2nd file, where I can test it all out at will, which would make me a lot happier. 💡

The list is coming along great - and I hope I can contribute more than just my Lupo in FF. What I can say is good luck for Legend of Silver Arrow - the SLR really messes it all up, and Ive never seen a line-up without one (I have tried, oh I have tried.) 3pts and my poor SL500 got wiped in A-spec; B-spec just managed to overtake as his tyres went orange. I got revenge with 1 A-spec point from the CLK-DTM car I won as a result.

It is annoying to see "1pt" on the screen, but I guess at the end of the day it doesnt matter too much - as long as I enjoy myself. I can't believe I havent fully tuned a car yet - in GT3 it was either all or nothing.

Anyway - my praise to route_66 and others who have made this a superb thread - and I shall be using the list to guide me when I return to my PS2 in 3 weeks' time.

I have tested this theory on at least one race - the BMW manufacturers race that is restricted to only two types of car, the 320i and the 320d.

here is what I found re the field make-up and A-spec points (I was in the slower BMW i)

4 BMW d's
2 BMW i's ===> 176 A-spec points

3 BMW d's
3 BMW i's ===> 168 A-spec points

2 BMW d's
4 BMW i's ==> 160 A-spec points

so ... from this example, it was clear that the A-spec points are dependant on the make up of the field and not just dependant on the fastest car - at least in this series.
 
RenesisEvo
Interesting, according to Famine and others, it's based on the best car in the field. I tend to agree from what I've seen, but then the Mini racing seems to disprove this.:boggled:

Well the frustration comes from my natural habit of having a 100% win ratio - achieved in GT2, lost out for some reason on 1 of 1230 in GT3... so endless re-setting and playin about. If I ever get my other memory card back off my sister (she's 22 lol) I could have a 2nd file, where I can test it all out at will, which would make me a lot happier. 💡

The list is coming along great - and I hope I can contribute more than just my Lupo in FF. What I can say is good luck for Legend of Silver Arrow - the SLR really messes it all up, and Ive never seen a line-up without one (I have tried, oh I have tried.) 3pts and my poor SL500 got wiped in A-spec; B-spec just managed to overtake as his tyres went orange. I got revenge with 1 A-spec point from the CLK-DTM car I won as a result.

It is annoying to see "1pt" on the screen, but I guess at the end of the day it doesnt matter too much - as long as I enjoy myself. I can't believe I havent fully tuned a car yet - in GT3 it was either all or nothing.

Anyway - my praise to route_66 and others who have made this a superb thread - and I shall be using the list to guide me when I return to my PS2 in 3 weeks' time.



The Mini lineups hold true to the idea. Here's a way to find out.
Take your One in to the race, write down about 5 lineups and the points and look at how the points correlate to the entire lineup. That, you could have one Cooper-S but your points will be different if you have 1 One vs 2 One's in the lineup.


Yeah... well learning not to car about a Win/Loss percentage is the first step in the program. Must... let... go.... :lol: For some reason I still care enough to keep it above 50%. No idea why. Think it about it this way... if you never lose, how do you know that you're racing as competitively as you're capable of? :dopey:


Thanks for the warning on Silver Arrow, I was thinking about that one. I did it for a whopping 4p with a 190E TC. There are certain races in the game where the lineup NEVER changes. BMW M and Vette! are two examples. Maybe Legend is one of them? And there a plenty of other manufacturer races that make sure to have at least one of each kind of car involved (Mini is a good one)

The Lupo entry was excellent!

Think I'll be stuck in route_66s exhaust for a while. Too damn talented a driver!
 
jdw
The Mini lineups hold true to the idea. Here's a way to find out.
Take your One in to the race, write down about 5 lineups and the points and look at how the points correlate to the entire lineup. That, you could have one Cooper-S but your points will be different if you have 1 One vs 2 One's in the lineup.


Yeah... well learning not to car about a Win/Loss percentage is the first step in the program. Must... let... go.... :lol: For some reason I still care enough to keep it above 50%. No idea why. Think it about it this way... if you never lose, how do you know that you're racing as competitively as you're capable of? :dopey:


Thanks for the warning on Silver Arrow, I was thinking about that one. I did it for a whopping 4p with a 190E TC. There are certain races in the game where the lineup NEVER changes. BMW M and Vette! are two examples. Maybe Legend is one of them? And there a plenty of other manufacturer races that make sure to have at least one of each kind of car involved (Mini is a good one)

The Lupo entry was excellent!

Think I'll be stuck in route_66s exhaust for a while. Too damn talented a driver!


Its true - each player can set their own target goals for themselves. For my part I have never cared about my win/loss ratio and don't even know what it is. I like to experiment with different cars and different tuning settings etc - if they suck - I just quit and try the next combo.

This is particularly true once your experimenting with A-spec maximization techniques!

So it depends on the game you are trying to play.

There are some really talented and dedicated drivers out there for sure and its nice to share information if it can help them max out their A-spec totals.


To papaphrase the old '70s saying ... "keep on A-spec'ing".
 
Couple new entries while I'm at it.

BWM: Club "M" - 162/153/153/153/103 for an M3 Coupe with su/dt ups + S3s for 153 and added an NA1, RM and RC on the Ring. Yes, I suck there [shrug].

(Note: lineup never changes)

It's not great but I figured it would be a target to start with...


British Lightweight: I'm force to admit failure here. I strive to do everything I can to achieve 200p WITHOUT using Nitrous. So, I did the next best thing, create a nitrous and non-nitrous entry.

146p for Elise Type '72 w/N2s and su/dt ups against
Ginetta,Elan S1, Elise '0o, Elise 72 and Marcos

200p for Triumph Spitfire at 83hp with dt/su ups, NA1 and Nitrous @100 against
Elan S1, Ginetta, Marcos, Spitfire.

Note: The Spitfire was the prize version. The purchased version is heavier so would require a WR1 to qualify


Am currently working on Hot Hatch and getting my butt kicked.

Have one race:
Squeaked a 191p on Suz East in a Mini Cooer dt/su ups, NA1 and chip vs.
Golf R32, Cooper-S, Alfa 147 GTA, Focus RS and an M Coupe

If I can get rid of the chip I can get 200p but it's really hard.
I know I can get 200p on Trial (I was ahead twice) but haven't won yet. Think I'm dead at Paris and SS5 :( Oh well, see what I can do.
 
El Capitan Enduro: 200 pts.

AMUSE S2000 R1: Stage 2 weight reduc, Port polish, Engine balancing, Racing exhaust, Racing chip, racing suspension, full tranny mods, and S1 tires.
 
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El Capitan Enduro: 200 pts.

AMUSE S2000 R1: Stage 2 weight reduc, Port polish, Engine balancing, Racing exhaust, Racing chip, racing suspension, full tranny mods, and S1 tires.
Confirmed on the 200 A-Spec Points, with the Amuse S2000 R1'04 at 295 HP (Racing Exhaust, Chip, NA Tune Stage 1), Racing Brakes, Suspension, and Transmission, and S2/S2 Tires....by 3+ Laps over Shelby'03, SPIRRA'04, TVR Speed 6'97, Corvette (C4)'96 and Mercedes SL65 AMG'04.

I went in well prepared, but most likely, this car doesn't need hardly any mods at all in order to win this race.
 
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