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sweet - looking forward to reading it (and maybe adding to it)
200pt A-spec races
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sweet - looking forward to reading it (and maybe adding to it)
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Wow, this threads really taken off! Good see so many people doing good stuff (Thanks to Moloch especially for the summaries and Messiah's spreadsheet sounds good, saves me from doing it!)
Right, I've been off for a little while working out some of the more.....hardcore races and if you're brave and really want all those points you might like to try these:
Sarthe 24hr 1 - Stock R390 GT1, R1 tires - 200pts (all group C/LMP opponents)
Sarthe 24hr 2 - Black R390 Gt1, ballast 200, R1 tires - 200pts (all group C/LMP opponents)
GT World Champ - Mercedes CLK-GTR, R1 tires, 100 ballast - 200pts
Formula GT - Audi R8, oil change, R1 tires - 200pts (Really not as hard as I thought it would be)
Keep it up.
Right, I've been off for a little while working out some of the more.....hardcore races and if you're brave and really want all those points you might like to try these:
Sarthe 24hr 1 - Stock R390 GT1, R1 tires - 200pts (all group C/LMP opponents)
Sarthe 24hr 2 - Black R390 Gt1, ballast 200, R1 tires - 200pts (all group C/LMP opponents)
GT World Champ - Mercedes CLK-GTR, R1 tires, 100 ballast - 200pts
Formula GT - Audi R8, oil change, R1 tires - 200pts (Really not as hard as I thought it would be)
Keep it up.
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Work in progress...
http://uk.msnusers.com/7u170n32klgouh1ee1un9g75h0/Documents/GT4 Points_blank.xls
I've deleted my points tally but it'll still calculate when you add your own.
A lot of the circuits are still missing (as you will see) thats just because I haven't got round to doing all races.
I should point out that I created it to help me build up as big an A-Spec total as possible - the intention was to keep a note of my scores in each race and go back to them after reaching 100% - I could look at the list and see which races I had a low score on and redo it. Keeping a note of the car was so I would know how much to "de-modify" the car I had used previously.
hope it helps
**oh fudge the clicky's broke !!! ** please wait...
**update**
I'm 2 races short somewhere - I have 555 races including the 34 missions - which gives a possible top score of 112,700.
I'll have to find out if I'm missing any... at least I'll have the opportunity to complete the circuits list.
http://uk.msnusers.com/7u170n32klgouh1ee1un9g75h0/Documents/GT4 Points_blank.xls
I've deleted my points tally but it'll still calculate when you add your own.
A lot of the circuits are still missing (as you will see) thats just because I haven't got round to doing all races.
I should point out that I created it to help me build up as big an A-Spec total as possible - the intention was to keep a note of my scores in each race and go back to them after reaching 100% - I could look at the list and see which races I had a low score on and redo it. Keeping a note of the car was so I would know how much to "de-modify" the car I had used previously.
hope it helps
**oh fudge the clicky's broke !!! ** please wait...
**update**
I'm 2 races short somewhere - I have 555 races including the 34 missions - which gives a possible top score of 112,700.
I'll have to find out if I'm missing any... at least I'll have the opportunity to complete the circuits list.
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route_66
Great news on the Formula GT! Audi R8 is a great car. The Bentley is close to the R8 in points given (getting a few less)... is it still 200p?
FWIW, when I was trying to find a car for the GT World I went through all the race cars I had and the A-Spec point order goes something like this (Pretty sure although I could have something confused. I don't have my notes handy):
Least to Most
Minolta, 92, Jag, GT-ONE, Bentley, R8, 787B, 390, Merc (which is in the *next* class)
I'd guess the Sauber is #2, the 89 #4 (ahead of the Jag).
Also, I've been offered 200p for the Merc CLK with R3 tires and no ballast. It was the same lineup that I got 200p for the 787B + R1s: Minolta, Sauber, 92, Jag and 787B. Now I don't think I have the ability to beat the lineup with the Merc, but I know others have...
Obviously I was pretty lucky to get that lineup. It was the 6th one I tried.
Funny thing is, there's so much variance in that race the CLK was offered everywhere from 200p to 9p!!! The 9p has 3 high-powered LM cars (Vertigo, Camaro and I forget what the 3rd was) as well as 2 Group C cars.
Because of these kind of variances...
IMO, it would be helpful if further contributions also listed the competition.
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Yeah, the Bentley gets 200pts (so it should it pretty much IS an R8 under the body in IRL), So do the Peskys and I reckon they could all win. The higher power cars might get less (Minolta, Sauber, Jag) as they have more power than the F1's. It''s not that hard either (which surprised me, in GT3 Formula GT the 787b would lose 20 odd seconds a lap vs F1's), especially as R1's give you more a-spec points and you can do at least half as many pitstops as the AI.
The lineup for a race is crucial to the A-spec points - especially in high power races, one useless AI opponent can totally mess things up. If you're racing with LM cars then make sure the field is all LM too (if you can, GTWC is a pain for putting one or two hoplessly outclassed GTS cars in the field)
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Old ManAll five Speedster Cup races are 200 a-spec points a piece in a stock Speedster NA or Turbo. By stock I mean oil change and nothing else.
And if someone says they won one of these races, I'll need to see a video and some kind of proof their car was stock. I couldn't even catch up to the fifth place car with a stock Speedster Turbo!IMHO, these five races, especially Infineon and Seattle, are some of the most challenging in the game.
Also, thanks for starting this thread. I like racing, not blowing by the AI cars before the first turn and winning by a mile, not, as Old Geezer so aptly puts it, bringing a gun to a knife fight. So, I'm beginning to pay attention to a-spec points as a means for keeping the race competitive, and, if folks respond and post, this thread may help me to do this more efficiently.
I modified a speedster (non turbo) as much as I could and still got 200 a-spec points for all 5 races
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route_66
NO IT IS NOT!!!!
The 2001 Bentley had the engine from the Audi R8. Thats it - that's where the similarity ends. 2002-3 they ran a larger capacity engine, designed and built by Bentley. Everything else was designed by Bentley. No quick-change rear end, no fancy German tech - the Bentley was built the British way, to last the entire 24hrs without needing to have bits replaced. And thats what it did. Go to www.mulsannescorner.com to see more if you dont believe it. There's far more difference than just a roof.
Look before you leap...
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RenesisEvo
Easy Tiger, VW money payed for both of them, they're both Le Man winners and they get the same points in the game. I didn't mean to cause any offense, personally I think the Bentley is a much nicer car than the R8 (Looks much better, isn't german). Anyway, thank you for pointing out the differences and sorry for annoying you.
Mkay - for the tuning car cup, try a stock Ruf (any of them) - big points and tough racing. For 200pts go for the TOM's Chaser and mess about with weight and tires.
the world classic series is a pain for A-spec points because the Cobra and Buick are much faster than everything else and when they aren't there the Merc Gullwing is much faster than everything else. Keep resetting until they aren't in the lineup (this takes ages) and then use whatever you like. Otherwise you'll need a modded Ginetta (really modded) or a muscle car (try a vette) for a tough race against the Cobra etc. Without those three, try the Alfa duetto or an ancient skyline and you should get big points with bad tires.
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hispeed
Man you really love that car don't you? I feel a challenge coming on..........Amuse S2000 R1 (I haven't driven it yet) versus tuning car cup........Did you get busted by a lot? Am I going to find i've got no chance? the HPA golf and Yellow Bird are the main competition and the Ruf isn't allways there...........I'll get back to you.
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route_66
Wow I quoted myself....weird. anyway that's for the world classics (and the advice is the same for the 1000 miles in european hall as well)
As for the Falken RX-7, yeah that oughta do it. Looks nice too. dunno about points though, you'll get a few against the Golf and Ruf, but don't use race tires (too easy) use S2/S3's.
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route_66
Love that car, got handling and nice rev range, not to powerful so it can give good points - loses some on the straights, lord of the turns! Raced the HPA, RUF and opera performance, probably all hard tuned, as for me always driving stock... busted by some 10sec, but had one nasty error that might have cost me about that ( took a 360 airborne on the blind undulating hill/turn before the tunnel on the last lap after touching the side barrier.....
)Nice idea about the challenge, I'll post it in my thread (see signature).
I tried it with the BMW M3 GTR (490 HP - 1350 kg) and... it was 105 pts / race, 3 of the races were fairly easy and the two others were harder: Tokyo R246 (I hate this track) and Tsukuba (the RUF was in the front, and was too fast in the corners).
I'll maybe reduce the HP (490 to 430) but reduce the weight from 1350 to 1228 (Stage 1) and I'll see... cause I really can't win @ Tsukuba and Tokyo if the RUF is in the front of the pack at the start.
Also, do you have an idea of a car that I can use @ World Classic Cup (Pro Events)?
I'll maybe reduce the HP (490 to 430) but reduce the weight from 1350 to 1228 (Stage 1) and I'll see... cause I really can't win @ Tsukuba and Tokyo if the RUF is in the front of the pack at the start.
Also, do you have an idea of a car that I can use @ World Classic Cup (Pro Events)?
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mkay
World Classics. Pro hall.
Vs Buick or Cobra - 69' vette, mercury cougar XR-7
Vs Merc Gullwing - Ginetta G4, toyota 2000GT '67
Vs everyone else - Alfa Duetto Spider 1600
All these cars are good, but if you want a high a-spec score you HAVE to reenter until the Cobra, Buick and Merc are not there (and preferably not the fiat 500 either as this is so rubbish it ruins the score) or try the vette against all three.
Very useful thread, I'm checkin' it regularly to find new 200 pts occasions. The only way I had 200 pts up now is using a pick up truck against normal cars. I am now wishing I'd have tried to get many pts instead of breezing through the field in too many occasion. But that damn classic car championship in pro all is the hardest championship to get A-Spec points because you have one bomb among the five opponents and the rest are lousy 100 hp cars, so you either win with 5 pts or lose by 50 seconds.
Another thing I noticed is what I call the ( damn that guy is 10 secs ahead of me at the start and I can't catch him because of some miracle) syndrom, that happens only on damn rolling start races.
keep the good work.
Another thing I noticed is what I call the ( damn that guy is 10 secs ahead of me at the start and I can't catch him because of some miracle) syndrom, that happens only on damn rolling start races.
keep the good work.
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More 200s or close to 200s...
Clubman - Lotus Elise '72 at 133hp (muffler, chip) + susp/dt + S3s against Speedster Turbo, MR2-GTS, Clio Phase2, 205, Integra Type R.
Worked for all but Seoul... used a 111R there for 173p against a nastier lineup.
Tuning Car - 200p for Clio Race Car on Apricot and El Cap vs. Opera S2000, CTR2, Falken, RTune, Spoon S2000
NA Sports - 200p for Clio for all 5 races. Went against a lighter lineup (Tamora, NSX, CLK55,Cobra,GTO) on Infineon and Trial w/a chip and S3s. Upgraded the competition (350Z,SS,Callaway,Z06,M3 CSL) to justify more hp (added muffler) on the other 3 tracks.
Turbo - 200p with 22B-STi (racing muffler, typical susp/dt ups and S3s) against Bathurst, Esprit HC, S4, Infini III, 3000GT.
For some reason, it was surprisingly easy. The finishes were all close but only because the Esprit decided to start racing near the end and caught up to me at the finish.
Boxer Spirit - 197p w/22B-STi using S3s and typical susp/dt against Yellow Bird, another 22B and 3 random STis.
Clubman - Lotus Elise '72 at 133hp (muffler, chip) + susp/dt + S3s against Speedster Turbo, MR2-GTS, Clio Phase2, 205, Integra Type R.
Worked for all but Seoul... used a 111R there for 173p against a nastier lineup.
Tuning Car - 200p for Clio Race Car on Apricot and El Cap vs. Opera S2000, CTR2, Falken, RTune, Spoon S2000
NA Sports - 200p for Clio for all 5 races. Went against a lighter lineup (Tamora, NSX, CLK55,Cobra,GTO) on Infineon and Trial w/a chip and S3s. Upgraded the competition (350Z,SS,Callaway,Z06,M3 CSL) to justify more hp (added muffler) on the other 3 tracks.
Turbo - 200p with 22B-STi (racing muffler, typical susp/dt ups and S3s) against Bathurst, Esprit HC, S4, Infini III, 3000GT.
For some reason, it was surprisingly easy. The finishes were all close but only because the Esprit decided to start racing near the end and caught up to me at the finish.
Boxer Spirit - 197p w/22B-STi using S3s and typical susp/dt against Yellow Bird, another 22B and 3 random STis.
Great great thread, but I see a lot of speculation as to what A-Spec points are, what they are there for and leads back to my original thoughts while reading the 'instruction book' that came with the game: where's all the documentation on this stuff? A-Spec points - raced a 200 point game using my Cien against touring cars and won, raced a 1 point game with the same Cien in an American event and got pasted (almost perfect laps run, not walls, never went off the road), how are they calculated and what-not? No offense to any of the hard work put in on the guides, but we shouldn't be having to search the internet and forums for information that should be included with the game!
This game needs a lot of help in terms of documentation of features:
tuning settings, on-screen icons (what do the dots in B-Spec map next to your best time mean - orangish dots only seen occasionally).
By far the best GT game but spend some $$ and properly document stuff,
End Of Rant
This game needs a lot of help in terms of documentation of features:
tuning settings, on-screen icons (what do the dots in B-Spec map next to your best time mean - orangish dots only seen occasionally).
By far the best GT game but spend some $$ and properly document stuff,
End Of Rant
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Axolot2
This thread is more about how to obtain 200pts, there are others where people have been venting their thoughts about the whole system...
anychance of a summary of the results again, soon? Cheers! 👍
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