2012 Korean Grand Prix

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Umm ok...can i just say that i actually KNOW that for a fact! i got it from the newspaper report of Suzuka on monday!...i think im going to get a roasting now!!:lol:
 
And Button, right?

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Are you sure that picture is in Spa? Didn't ING withdraw their sponsorship as soon as Grosjean joined because of "Piquet-gate", or was that before Singapore?
 
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Are you sure that picture is in Spa? Didn't ING withdraw their sponsorship as soon as Grosjean joined because of "Piquet-gate", or was that before Singapore?

Shortly after Grosjean replace Piquet in the Renault seat, is when Piquet blew the whistle on the team for the Singapore crash.
 
Although Piquet was fired after the Hungarian Grand Prix, ING remained with the team for several races. It wasn't until the Singapore Grand Prix - two months later - that their name was removed from the cars, in response to the claims of race-fixing.
 
I wonder how long until they start booing Grosjean during the driver parades.
Do you really think that's Grosjean's biggest problem? One more first-lap accident, and he's likely to get another racing ban, and this time, it might well be one that lasts longer. Maybe even to the end of the season.
 
I will be watching Romain very nervously at turn 1. I hope he reconsiders and takes Jackie Stewart's renewed offer of coaching. Romain initially claimed that he didn't need a coach but showed up at Singapore with a well known sporting coach. I think he needs to spend some time with Jackie and analyze what is going wrong. He's one of the biggest talents to emerge in the last few years.
 
I don't think the problem is something that needs coaches. The starts are always a bit hairy - the stewards are usually fairly lenient with anything that happens because they know it is the one time during the race when all twenty-four cars will be together - and I think that contributes to Grosjean's accidents. I think he sits down, plans out his starts, and rigidly adheres to them. If he aims for a spot at the start, he goes for it, and doesn't really allow for much outside that. He lacks the ability to adapt his opening moves to respond to those around him, because if he gets away and gets away cleanly, he generally has an incident-free race.

His problem is target lock.
 
All I hope is that if he is taken out at the first corner through no fault of his own, people are sorry for him, rather than start attacking and blaming him.
 
I think one more major blunder by him and perhaps he should just be banned altogether, It's been a long time since anyone died from the sport and it would be foolish to let him keep inching closer to causing the worst.

I can see he has that special something needed to become world champion, but you need to have the whole package as a driver.
 
Nobody starts perfectly... Remember Hakkinen's race ban in Hockenheim '94? Look at how he has flourished into a proper two time world champion.

Same applies to Hamilton, Vettel and many other champions. You don't simply win championships on your first try. It is their ability to adapt well and learn quickly (to learn racecraft, consistency etc) + their underlying talent that separates the champions from the other normal drivers.
 
They mentioned that if he starts on the right side of the track, he stays right after the start. Well, he successfully did that in Suzuka...

Yeah but staying right at Suzuka is on the inside line for the first corner(s). Staying on the right here is on the outside and out of the way.

Really he should be trying to get to the outside line rather than the heavily contested-inside line.

But its not so easy as saying "I will go x way on the first lap" - and we're back to the point at hand, its more about having your head switched on, placing your car correctly and keeping track of everything around you.

Anyway, we will see what we will see.
 
Yeah but staying right at Suzuka is on the inside line for the first corner(s). Staying on the right here is on the outside and out of the way.

Really he should be trying to get to the outside line rather than the heavily contested-inside line.

But its not so easy as saying "I will go x way on the first lap" - and we're back to the point at hand, its more about having your head switched on, placing your car correctly and keeping track of everything around you.

Anyway, we will see what we will see.

Mhm, but this was mentioned by Grosjean and Eric as one the things they have changed for his start procedure. If he starts on the left side, he will stay left.

I think that's okay, for now, to decrease the chance of being involved in an incident.

What happened in Spa? Grosjean drove to the opposite side of the straight and collided with Hamilton.
What happened in Suzuka? Alonso drove to the opposite side of the straight and collided with Raikkonen.
 
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