2014 Mazda6 - General Discussion

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While I agree about the fuel tank, I would argue that the 2 is more fun to drive than the 3. I've never driven a front driver that enjoyed oversteering as much as my little 2 does. Also, at some point, the extra room has marginal benefit. I almost never carry people or even things in my 2. Why get a bigger car if you don't need it? The 2 is far easier to park...

I'd feel a bit safer in the 3.
 
I'd feel a bit safer in the 3.
I don't get why so many Americans are so concerned about safety. They wouldn't have to worry about it if they didn't crash into each other like they were getting paid to.

I'd much rather have a door armrest that I can actually reach without taking my hand off the wheel and leaning over than a 4-inch gap between my elbow and the door panel just in case some moron with a phone in one hand and a cheeseburger in the other plows into the side of me. A BMW 7-series has a more ergonomic interior than a Mazda 2 and I know that because I've driven both of them within the past week.
 
I don't get why so many Americans are so concerned about safety. They wouldn't have to worry about it if they didn't crash into each other like they were getting paid to.

I'd much rather have a door armrest that I can actually reach without taking my hand off the wheel and leaning over than a 4-inch gap between my elbow and the door panel just in case some moron with a phone in one hand and a cheeseburger in the other plows into the side of me. A BMW 7-series has a more ergonomic interior than a Mazda 2 and I know that because I've driven both of them within the past week.

You need more cheezburgers. Don't blame the car for your own insufficient width.
 
I don't get why so many Americans are so concerned about safety.
I'd rather pay extra for safety now, than have to deal more with american medical/insurance system later. You can go broke very easily/quickly even with insurance.
 
I don't get why so many Americans are so concerned about safety. They wouldn't have to worry about it if they didn't crash into each other like they were getting paid to.

I'd much rather have a door armrest that I can actually reach without taking my hand off the wheel and leaning over than a 4-inch gap between my elbow and the door panel just in case some moron with a phone in one hand and a cheeseburger in the other plows into the side of me. A BMW 7-series has a more ergonomic interior than a Mazda 2 and I know that because I've driven both of them within the past week.
I don't get why people can't realise that for the most part, small cars are just as safe as big cars. Yes, at highway speeds the smaller crumple zones do become an issue, but let's face it, if you crash as 70 MPH you're going to get hurt. I agree with you, I'd rather have a nice car than one that's marginally safer.
 
I don't get why people can't realise that for the most part, small cars are just as safe as big cars.
Only if there were no big cars sharing roads with smaller cars.
If you're talking about single vehicle incidents then you're probably right.
I've become a fan of small cars but I know that every useless SUV driver out there can at any second injure me pretty badly.
 
I don't get why so many Americans are so concerned about safety. They wouldn't have to worry about it if they didn't crash into each other like they were getting paid to.

Well that's exactly it. I have to worry about every other driver on the road. I'm concerned for my safety because of every other idiot too bothered to pay attention to driving.
 
With all this talk over the Mazda 2 and safety I think it is a very safe car overall. The main structure and components are shared with the Ford Fiesta. My aunt had a crash at 70mph in her Fiesta on the motorway, hitting the barrier and causing the car to roll end over end. She and my cousin escaped with light cuts and bruising/burns from the airbags.
 
It's death by degrees. Compared to an eighteen-wheeler semi, there is no such thing as a large car.

Hell, if were to get sandwiched between two trucks, I'd rather be in a Subaru than anything else.

Here's a little tidbit on why we keep hearing these anecdotes of people surviving incredible crashes in Subarus:

http://drive2.subaru.com/Sum06_WhatsInside.htm

This is also why Subie is one of the few that got the small overlap right.

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Then again... most new cars are reasonably safe in a crash compared to anything ten years older. If you're fine with driving around in a pre-millenial Accord or Camry, you should be fine driving around in a Mazda2.
 
Well, if the MX-6 comes back around, they'll pretty much own the market. Outside of the luxury entries from BMW and Mercedes, Mazda would really only need to compete with the Honda Accord Coupe, and even then, theres not much to go after there. But, I'd be willing to bet that if Mazda can pull it off, more will get back in the game.

Who's up for a Fusion coupe?
 
Well, if the MX-6 comes back around, they'll pretty much own the market. Outside of the luxury entries from BMW and Mercedes, Mazda would really only need to compete with the Honda Accord Coupe, and even then, theres not much to go after there. But, I'd be willing to bet that if Mazda can pull it off, more will get back in the game.

Who's up for a Fusion coupe?

For some reason, I can't really see a Ford Fusion as a coupe...
 
Then there's no reason the Fusion would be made into a coupe then.
Well, Mazda and Ford went separate ways a few years ago, so it would be up to them if they wanted to make a coupe version, as the Fusion is something completely different from the Mazda6.

If Mazda did make a 6C, then Ford will probably make a coupe based on the Fusion platform.
 
Who's up for a Fusion coupe?
I believe that's called a Mustang :sly:

I skimmed through the threads and, as someone who has been in a Mazda6 (GT) for multiple hours, I'd like to share my thoughts on the car.
As @Omnis mentioned somewhere, the screen is a little wonky. Although a little small, it isn't necessarily hard to use. It has a very high resistance to touch. Much, much harder than a smartphone. Much harder than the aftermarket radio in my car. It took a little while to realize you really had to mash your finger to do anything. They slightly combated this with the center wheel, which works very well. One of the things I hate about the screen (besides the above) is the nav system. It doesn't let you input directions while the car is moving, even if you're the passenger. And, because of the resistant screen, this can take well over a minute to input the address as it isn't the fastest of things either.
The sound system is great. Fantastic clarity, a fair amount of bass, but doesn't quite handle the highs as well as I'm used to.
The ride quality is very good, even with the (very beautiful) 19" wheels.

It's not the fastest car, but it has enough pep with it. I haven't been able to drive the car myself but, as a passenger, it seems pretty quick. Faster than mine for sure :lol:. The paddle shifters are an alright touch but relatively useless for a car that will never get near a track. I'm not sure how well they will work for economy driving. Also has a sequential shifter if you move the stick to the left.
The interior quality is pretty good. The leather feels good, the seats are well designed and the door has very soft padding, perfect for your arm. There really isn't a cheap feeling part of it. Plenty of back seat room, even with the driver and/or passenger further back than normal. This was really important for his job as he's often carrying customers around. It's a little hard to get out of the backseat however due to the B pillar trying to eat your feet. The other big negative is the passenger seat; although it moves fore and aft, and the back tilts, the seat does not move up and down. And it seems very low for that to be the case. Trunk space is good, a little smaller than what I was expecting but if the seats fold I don't care. Mazda has always had a thing for being a little loud (the salesman even admitted this) but it has a little more deadening than what I was expecting. I'm not saying it's quiet, but compared to a 2010 Fusion, it's definitely a step above. Nowhere close to a 2002 Mercedes, however.
They advertise something like 40mpg highway, but the real figure is about 36. This is from a man who never touches the speed limit but also doesn't coast.
 
Incorrect. Chassis code is GJ.

http://www.mazda.com/technology/skyactiv/platform/skyactiv-chassis.html
It was called the SKYACTIV chassis when I checked out the Mazda USA website. I do know the chassis code is GJ, though.

I believe that's called a Mustang :sly:

I skimmed through the threads and, as someone who has been in a Mazda6 (GT) for multiple hours, I'd like to share my thoughts on the car.
As @Omnis mentioned somewhere, the screen is a little wonky. Although a little small, it isn't necessarily hard to use. It has a very high resistance to touch. Much, much harder than a smartphone. Much harder than the aftermarket radio in my car. It took a little while to realize you really had to mash your finger to do anything. They slightly combated this with the center wheel, which works very well. One of the things I hate about the screen (besides the above) is the nav system. It doesn't let you input directions while the car is moving, even if you're the passenger. And, because of the resistant screen, this can take well over a minute to input the address as it isn't the fastest of things either.
The sound system is great. Fantastic clarity, a fair amount of bass, but doesn't quite handle the highs as well as I'm used to.
The ride quality is very good, even with the (very beautiful) 19" wheels.

It's not the fastest car, but it has enough pep with it. I haven't been able to drive the car myself but, as a passenger, it seems pretty quick. Faster than mine for sure :lol:. The paddle shifters are an alright touch but relatively useless for a car that will never get near a track. I'm not sure how well they will work for economy driving. Also has a sequential shifter if you move the stick to the left.
The interior quality is pretty good. The leather feels good, the seats are well designed and the door has very soft padding, perfect for your arm. There really isn't a cheap feeling part of it. Plenty of back seat room, even with the driver and/or passenger further back than normal. This was really important for his job as he's often carrying customers around. It's a little hard to get out of the backseat however due to the B pillar trying to eat your feet. The other big negative is the passenger seat; although it moves fore and aft, and the back tilts, the seat does not move up and down. And it seems very low for that to be the case. Trunk space is good, a little smaller than what I was expecting but if the seats fold I don't care. Mazda has always had a thing for being a little loud (the salesman even admitted this) but it has a little more deadening than what I was expecting. I'm not saying it's quiet, but compared to a 2010 Fusion, it's definitely a step above. Nowhere close to a 2002 Mercedes, however.
They advertise something like 40mpg highway, but the real figure is about 36. This is from a man who never touches the speed limit but also doesn't coast.

As some who, as well, drives a Mazda6 (non-GT, just the base AT Sport), I will agree the screen is rather weird. The voice recognition can be aggravating at times too (how do you get "phone > call" from "shuffle > all"?), but aside from those drawback, I do love my car. Performance-wise, it's pretty peppy and quick, and the M-D mode is very responsive. It does struggle going uphill, though. I average about 28-31 MPG commuting from school to home, depending on the traffic.
 
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http://www.mazda.com/technology/skyactiv/platform/skyactiv-chassis.html
It was called the SKYACTIV chassis when I checked out the Mazda USA website. I do know the chassis code is GJ, though.



As some who, as well, drives a Mazda6 (non-GT, just the base AT Sport), I will agree the screen is rather weird. The voice recognition can be aggravating at times too (how do you get "phone > call" from "shuffle > all"?), but aside from those drawback, I do love my car. Performance-wise, it's pretty peppy and quick, and the M-D mode is very responsive. It does struggle going uphill, though. I average about 28-31 MPG commuting from school to home, depending on the traffic.
Eh, the whole SkyActiv thing is just marketing.
 
It's highly unlikely that there'd be a Fusion Coupe.

Not necessiarily.

As dead as we thought the segment was after the Monte Carlo, Sebring/200, Solara, and others went the way of the dodo... The Accord Coupe still sells well, and if Mazda makes a good case for a Mazda6C... I'd bet others would get in.

Actually, it kinda surprises me that Dodge doesn't have a mid-size coupe on the docket. It seems like it'd fit their new brand strategy, at the very least. And, you know, now that they've worked with Mazda on the new MX-5 based Alfa... Why not a nuvo Avenger based on the Mazda 6?
 
The Altima Coupe sold quite well I think, I do see them all over the place. Only reason it was killed was because the completely new car came out.
 
The Altima Coupe is one of the only midsized coupes that actually sells, isn't it? Along with the Accord Coupe... which, if the sedan variants are anything to go by, drives much better than the Nissan.
 
The Mazda 6 coupe would be sexy as hell too, something the Accord can't match at all.

Also, I don't get people's infatuation with the Accord and its driving dynamics. They're terrible. I still have a 2012 sitting in my driveway at home and it's one of the most miserable things I've ever driven. The 4-cylinder sucks, the transmission is abysmal, the seat is uncomfortable as hell, the electronic throttle is ignorant, the steering is lifeless. The last Mazda 6 and Nissan Altima I drove were better in every single way, including interior quality.
 
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