2014 N24, 23/24 February, 7 of 12 slots filled!

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As this is going to take place in GT6 I seem to remember talk from either Kaz or a Sony Manager that there may be a viewing option for online races (eg for the team manager) that won't impact on the number of driving participants. So this is really just a heads up to consider the possibility of allowing more teams to enter dependent on the introduction of that feature.

Correct JohnnySconesBread!

I too had heard such wondrous tales of wunderbah voyeurism, I am hopeful that this indeed comes into play and we can allow more teams entry.

At this stage we are still at the hands of the gaming gods until we know exactly what GT6 will allow us to do and what limits are in place, once we have a greater understanding of that we will be better placed to make the right decisions regarding team numbers etc etc 👍
 
Long time no race. Good to see that interest for N24 2014 is growing. See u on the track mates.
 
OK so been told i need to add this information here

Team: Concrete Climax
Team members: Matthew - memto89, John - Jonnyb1990, James - Jammyozzy
Car Choice 1: Nomad Lambo
Car Choice 2: Honda NSX LM

This makes me think I better reserve Tyson & Joe's 2014 24hr chassis entry.

Team Dodge Viper GTS-R #91

Still looking for team drivers, our willing to join TDZdave's Team! 👍 cough*hint hint*cough
 
joetruckv8
Still looking for team drivers, our willing to join TDZdave's Team! 👍 cough*hint hint*cough

Where do you live mate? You in SA?

Ultimately any decision to add new drivers would be mine but I have a very high regard for Daves knowledge of drivers and the game in general so he'd definitely be consulted.

We have 5 drivers already who are auto entries to drive, if they want in then I let them simply because each one has completed a 24hr race for GHH, indeed 2 of us have raced twice.

That said I'm a practical guy and I am more than happy to discuss team entry with you (or anyone else), if you are serious about committing to the event and are happy to travel to my house then we can definitely talk :)
 
How do you do these driver team-ups? More importantly, how do you plan on conducting these driver changes?
 
braunracing88
How do you do these driver team-ups? More importantly, how do you plan on conducting these driver changes?

Teams are made up of drivers who then all race on one ps3 in one rig (or however they wish, as long as a wheel is used or if using DS3 the drivers ability must be vetted) who then decide themselves when their changes are.
 
How do you do these driver team-ups? More importantly, how do you plan on conducting these driver changes?

When my team raced this year we were co ordinating driver changes with pit stops for tyres/fuel which generally was every 4-6 laps of the N24 circuit, although some drivers stayed put and did a double shift in the hot seat
 
When my team raced this year we were co ordinating driver changes with pit stops for tyres/fuel which generally was every 4-6 laps of the N24 circuit, although some drivers stayed put and did a double shift in the hot seat

I meant doing so with this 2 PS3 system. How does that work?
 
braunracing88
I meant doing so with this 2 PS3 system. How does that work?

2 tvs mate,1 psn id is drivers and the 2nd unit on 2nd tv is for managers to view the race.
 
2 tvs mate,1 psn id is drivers and the 2nd unit on 2nd tv is for managers to view the race.

Wouldn't you still need two PS3's for the team principals to view the race? The second PS3 being the one they would be using and viewing using "watch race" in order to monitor direct time splits and other information, as Dave mentioned in an earlier post.

The way this works is so your team principle can monitor direct competition, example you are chasing second place, and you are in third, the games natural time splits go to the leader not the car in position ahead, your team principle can then see what the time split is forward or behind, they can also see if there is a slower car ahead or a crash and know how to avoid it, like being a real race director,

Honestly, I'm a bit skeptical on the whole two PS3's thing. The "Watch Race" would also give info about the other teams such as tire wear, fuel remaining, and choice of tire. In addition, I think it's an additional and unnecessary hassle to get two PS3s and two televisions set up in the same area.

I meant doing so with this 2 PS3 system. How does that work?

That's actually not what the 2 PS3 system is for as stated above. However, I imagine a Pit Stop/Driver Change using multiple PS3's and different PSN users in different locations would be done by having the driver on track pit and fill the car up with gas. After that, they would let the race steward know they are making a driver change and get off track. Finally, the replacement driver would get on track using the same car (not same exact car, but same make and model, essentially a duplicate of the car the first driver was using) and take off.
 
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Wouldn't you still need two PS3's for the team principals to view the race? The second PS3 being the one they would be using and viewing using "watch race" in order to monitor direct time splits and other information, as Dave mentioned in an earlier post.

Only one for the team manager mate and one used for driving, trust me on this I am not speaking from a theoretical viewpoint here, I did it in Feb with my team and it worked a treat as it did with the other teams. I can say that Team GHH has not yet disconnected from a 24hr race either, we have maintained 48hrs straight connection over 2 events with 2 PS3's (Fatties, one is release day), 3 monitors, modem and other equipment all in Feb in Aus which gets to 45 celsius, oh and my AC doesn't work properly! The point is, there's no issues with stability either, the system just plain works.

Peelster1
Honestly, I'm a bit skeptical on the whole two PS3's thing. The "Watch Race" would also give info about the other teams such as tire wear, fuel remaining, and choice of tire. In addition, I think it's an additional and unnecessary hassle to get two PS3s and two televisions set up in the same area.

This information is available to managers of any car race so I fail to see the problem dude, this is as real as it gets and having a flow of information fed to drivers from a support staff is a HUGE part of real life racing, I wouldn't have it any other way to be honest.

Peelster1
That's actually not what the 2 PS3 system is for as stated above. However, I imagine a Pit Stop/Driver Change using multiple PS3's and different PSN users in different locations would be done by having the driver on track pit and fill the car up with gas. After that, they would let the race steward know they are making a driver change and get off track. Finally, the replacement driver would get on track using the same car (not same exact car, but same make and model, essentially a duplicate of the car the first driver was using) and take off.

That model can work (and I believe there was talk of a 24hr race using just such a model but I have not heard anything for a while) but this will be my 3rd event as a driver and I know what works and what does not work and one thing that absolutely works is having all team members in the one place sharing the experience. The highs, the lows, the sleepy patches and the 🤬 cat or dog going anywhere near anything resembling a modem!

I absolutely encourage anyone to try out a different model but it is not our way, the model set up by Wurks will be the same model that CRAP uses going forward as we run with the event. There will be things we do differently but the 2 PS3's, PC and Skype model will not be one of them 👍
 
I also ran in feb this year in the 24hr, with the 2 ps3's it was very useful to know how long we had till we got lapped lol, 4 drivers had to travel to 1 destination and use 1 psn for driving, in our case we all drove under gadgets psn, we had the second ps3 signed in on atiks psn, as we had all traveled to steves we could get sleep as needed an relieve drivers who were havin trouble with concentration, it was more exciting being in a room with 3 others who i hadnt met face to face until the event, it made it feel more important as your team mates were looking over your shoulder and at the second ps3 to make sure you were on pace, tyre an fuel left an when you needed to pit, also it was great to get away from the missus and do something quite special with doing a full on 24 hr event in online racing
 
Peelster1, It is a tried and tested system, it really is the only way you can do the N24, I'd also advise it for a Spa and Le Mans 24, The tag system is flawed, and I'd hate to be the one entering a lobby 18 hour in to the race when I have just entered the Nordschliefe and throw it off by being distracted by the ID tag entering, I'd fly to where ever that person is from and set them on fire!

This system works, it also acts as insurance in a way, if people have gone through the effort to drive across countries to do this, and done the hard yards in getting their systems sorted, they aren't going to rage quit,
 
However, I imagine a Pit Stop/Driver Change using multiple PS3's and different PSN users in different locations would be done by having the driver on track pit and fill the car up with gas. After that, they would let the race steward know they are making a driver change and get off track. Finally, the replacement driver would get on track using the same car (not same exact car, but same make and model, essentially a duplicate of the car the first driver was using) and take off.

Hi.

There's actually a problem with the method you describe above, my friend.

The new driver sure sits in a car of the same make and model as the previous driver but he could have different setups (camber, spring stiffness, toe-in/out, different aerodynamics (downforce)) compared to the other driver.

For this race to be as realistic as possible you have to make sure all those settings are the same.

It's impossible to do that, currently, in GT but if you switch drivers on the same PS3 (using one PSN-login for all drivers) you know that nothing has changed when it comes to the performance/handling of the car.
This is certain because you never left the track (by going back to the race lobby which would end the race in GT5 for your part).


Just wanted to add that to the discussion.

Sincerely, Lav.
 
I have booked my leave already for next year. It is going to be interesting, new cars, new game, new teams. I cannot wait!
 
Wouldn't you still need two PS3's for the team principals to view the race? The second PS3 being the one they would be using and viewing using "watch race" in order to monitor direct time splits and other information, as Dave mentioned in an earlier post.



Honestly, I'm a bit skeptical on the whole two PS3's thing. The "Watch Race" would also give info about the other teams such as tire wear, fuel remaining, and choice of tire. In addition, I think it's an additional and unnecessary hassle to get two PS3s and two televisions set up in the same area.



That's actually not what the 2 PS3 system is for as stated above. However, I imagine a Pit Stop/Driver Change using multiple PS3's and different PSN users in different locations would be done by having the driver on track pit and fill the car up with gas. After that, they would let the race steward know they are making a driver change and get off track. Finally, the replacement driver would get on track using the same car (not same exact car, but same make and model, essentially a duplicate of the car the first driver was using) and take off.

You can do that? What does the game make of it?
 
Hi.

There's actually a problem with the method you describe above, my friend.

The new driver sure sits in a car of the same make and model as the previous driver but he could have different setups (camber, spring stiffness, toe-in/out, different aerodynamics (downforce)) compared to the other driver.

For this race to be as realistic as possible you have to make sure all those settings are the same.

It's impossible to do that, currently, in GT but if you switch drivers on the same PS3 (using one PSN-login for all drivers) you know that nothing has changed when it comes to the performance/handling of the car.
This is certain because you never left the track (by going back to the race lobby which would end the race in GT5 for your part).


Just wanted to add that to the discussion.

Sincerely, Lav.

The other issue is if you are running multiple spec cars to balance the field properly, then in specing a new car would cancel out all of the fields current progression,
 
Lavandel
Hi.

What happened to the thread on C.R.A.P forums? - Can't find it??

I was doing some maintenance on the forum and it is temporarily unavailable as a result, be back up soon mate 👍

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Done, now it is available.

In addition i will be putting up an N24 race OP soon, once we iron out a few things it will go up 👍
 
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Since no more teams can sign up for the N24 CSS I guess it would be nice to announce it somewhere else than the "interest checks" here on GTPlanet?

HP ! Get to it!

;)
 
Since no more teams can sign up for the N24 CSS I guess it would be nice to announce it somewhere else than the "interest checks" here on GTPlanet?

HP ! Get to it!

;)

This is just a floating thread for the race itself to try gain interest for more teams, The css is virtually locked to us now, any late entrants will have to suck it up and deal with the out come of their tardyness,
 
TDZdave
This is just a floating thread for the race itself to try gain interest for more teams, The css is virtually locked to us now, any late entrants will have to suck it up and deal with the out come of their tardyness,

Yes and on top of that the OP needs to be done right.

Give me time Lav, should be up soon :)
 
Hey there! We've got a team of three drivers here who'd like to join if there's room for us. Our team differ some in driving skill from high medium to low medium but we're very dependable and I have personally never rage-quit from a race. :)

I saw all these discussions about the css and threads on the crap forum, but haven't found any links that work. So if there is something more than this thread to read about this I would appreciate if someone linked me to it.
 
Hey there! We've got a team of three drivers here who'd like to join if there's room for us. Our team differ some in driving skill from high medium to low medium but we're very dependable and I have personally never rage-quit from a race. :)

I saw all these discussions about the css and threads on the crap forum, but haven't found any links that work. So if there is something more than this thread to read about this I would appreciate if someone linked me to it.

I'll send you a PM with a link. If you have a team all primed and ready to go, maybe you could join the CSS for the last 3 rounds in Preparation for the big race in Feb?
 
As posted on CRAP forum today this race will no longer be managed by myself and the CRAP group.

Whoever wants to run it can have at it.

Team GHH will be there to defend our title if the race goes ahead but will have no part in organisation.
 
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