2014 NASCAR Thread

[nascarfan1400]

Ugh....

I take it you're not a Denny fan.

That's still a good 400, and I dont hate, nor like Denny, I have mutual feelings. Denny isn't part of the equation, the fact of the matter is NASCAR made a stupid call, and an even stupider correction.

 

[The Bman]

The flagman was already waving the white flag. I don't think he could have grabbed the yellow flag fast enough to bring it out before Hamlin took the last lap.

 

[Gerarghini]

The problem here is that they took so long to get the yellow out. Why did it take them ~20 seconds to get it out when a car is in the wall and another is throwing parts everywhere?!

 

[nascarfan1400]

The flagman was already waving the white flag. I don't think he could have grabbed the yellow flag fast enough to bring it out before Hamlin took the last lap.

Doesn't necessarily matter; they threw a red, and changed it to yellow in qually,

 

[iRevelationz]

That's still a good 400, and I dont hate, nor like Denny, I have mutual feelings. Denny isn't part of the equation, the fact of the matter is NASCAR made a stupid call, and an even stupider correction.

So you're saying that's a good 1300 feet. You realize the distance from the S/F line to the center of the tri-oval (about the center of the Talladega logo on the wall) is only 1250 feet, right? Denny is at around 1/3 of that.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Both have to be the dumbest similes ever.

Clear as mud has been around for a long time.

Kansas next week, probably gonna skip that one.

 

[nascarfan1400]

So you're saying that's a good 1300 feet. You realize the distance from the S/F line to the center of the tri-oval (about the center of the Talladega logo on the wall) is only 1250 feet, right? Denny is at around 1/3 of that.

Whatever, my point is you either throw it before the white, or don't throw it at all.

 

[nascarfan1400]

Clear as mud has been around for a long time.

Kansas next week, probably gonna skip that one.

I'd watch it for the night race, they have been interesting as of late.

 

[iRevelationz]

Whatever, my point is you either throw it before the white, or don't throw it at all.

You're still missing the point. How are they supposed to throw the yellow when the leader is one second from taking the white flag. It can't be done in that kind of time.

 

[nascarfan1400]

You're still missing the point. How are they supposed to throw the yellow when the leader is one second from taking the white flag. It can't be done in that kind of time.

Then why throw it at all? They have left the green out with debris on track before, and it was on the actual track, and people have run it over- didn't hurt anyone or anything.

 

[iRevelationz]

Then why throw it at all? They have left the green out with debris on track before, and it was on the actual track, and people have run it over- didn't hurt anyone or anything.

There was a lot of debris out there and some of it was quite large. No need to risk cars blasting through that at 200 MPH.

I can't remember, but there might've even been cars still sitting there.

 

[nascarfan1400]

There was a lot of debris out there and some of it was quite large. No need to risk cars blasting through that at 200 MPH.

I can't remember, but there might've even been cars still sitting there.

Well fair enough, but then they should have thrown it immediately.

Biffle even said, "They said no yellow, so I was getting ready to make my pass out of 4" (or something to that extent)

And no, nobody was stopped there,

 

[Earth]

Goodyear still cant make a good tire. Wouldnt surprise me if the #2 and #48 single car spins were tire related just like the 99. Those 3 spins dont happen and you have 15 less torn up racecars

 

[nascarfan1400]

Goodyear still cant make a good tire. Wouldnt surprise me if the #2 and #48 single car spins were tire related just like the 99. Those 3 spins dont happen and you have 15 less torn up racecars

Michael Waltrip was complaining of a bad vibration. So once again, Goodyear is Pirelli in hell.

 

[RACECAR]

Goodyear still cant make a good tire.

It amazes me they still are involved in racing. Sure Pirelli made some epic blunders but at least they can be found in more then one series, both spec and open. Can't find one series that isn't NASCAR affiliated with Goodyear (the exception being TUSC and even they managed to avoid them).

 

[nascarfan1400]

It amazes me they still are involved in racing. Sure Pirelli made some epic blunders but at least they can be found in more then one series, both spec and open. Can't find one series that isn't NASCAR affiliated with Goodyear (the exception being TUSC and even they managed to avoid them).

I love their commercials too "meticulously crafted" By who? Four year olds?

 

[Jahgee]

I love their commercials too "meticulously crafted" By who? Four year olds?

Arts and Crafts at the Retirement Home

 

[nascarfan1400]

Arts and Crafts at the Retirement Home

What do you have here!?

"Cheap degrading rubber, and air. I call it *cough* Goodyear."

 

[Müle]

Great, now we have put up with more of Hamlin's "im gon win erry next race for eeturnitee" bs.

👎

 

[MustangRyan]

I did, you obviously didn't. It was at what I call the "Daytona finish"; he had another hand inside the flag stand, presumably holding the yellow. If I were there, as soon as I saw smoke I would have thrown a caution.
I take it your a Denny fan.

I'm a Matt Kenseth fan that was hoping for Greg Biffle to win the race (see my Fantasy NASCAR picks).

Ugh....

At this exact moment in time**, the flag man has probably just realized that there is a potential problem. However, race control in the press box is responsible for calling for the caution, not this guy. If that one car spins to the bottom, and no debris is left on the track, they probably let them race back to the line.

However, by the time the dust (and debris) settles, the cars are already over in turn 1, and there still definitely needs to be a caution. I liked NASCAR's decision to let them race as far as it was safe to do so, and then slow them down before the debris posed any hazard to the drivers.

Clint Bowyer said after the race that it was the right call, and I agree with him.

**At the speeds the lead cars are travelling at that time, they will pass the start/finish line long before the flag man can potentially reach for and raise a yellow flag to display it. He had absolutely no chance to beat the leader with the yellow flag, even if it was his call to make.

 

[Chqr]

Great, now we have put up with more of Hamlin's "im gon win erry next race for eeturnitee" bs.

👎

Hush.

 

[nascarfan1400]

I'm a Matt Kenseth fan that was hoping for Greg Biffle to win the race (see my Fantasy NASCAR picks).


At this exact moment in time**, the flag man has probably just realized that there is a potential problem. However, race control in the press box is responsible for calling for the caution, not this guy. If that one car spins to the bottom, and no debris is left on the track, they probably let them race back to the line.

However, by the time the dust (and debris) settles, the cars are already over in turn 1, and there still definitely needs to be a caution. I liked NASCAR's decision to let them race as far as it was safe to do so, and then slow them down before the debris posed any hazard to the drivers.

Clint Bowyer said after the race that it was the right call, and I agree with him.

**At the speeds the lead cars are travelling at that time, they will pass the start/finish line long before the flag man can potentially reach for and raise a yellow flag to display it. He had absolutely no chance to beat the leader with the yellow flag, even if it was his call to make.

Good points, while I could, I'd rather not continue the argument.

I guess it comes down to opinion, I really don't think a yellow was nessicary for debris. I will still think it was a bad call to an otherwise good race.

 

[GTPorsche]

Goodyear still cant make a good tire. Wouldnt surprise me if the #2 and #48 single car spins were tire related just like the 99. Those 3 spins dont happen and you have 15 less torn up racecars

Yeah.. it's not like he misjudged his gap to Danica's nose or anything like that...

Edit: As for the caution on the final lap, NASCAR wasn't going to throw it at all, but they saw the large pieces of car laying all over the racing surface so they had no choice but to throw the yellow.

 

[nascarfan1400]

Yeah.. it's not like he misjudged his gap to Danica's nose or anything like that...

He's talking about the big one.

 

[GTPorsche]

He's talking about the big one.

I didn't see that one.

 

[Müle]

Hush.

Never

 

[VenomDan]

There is a rumor that Michelin might become the tire supplier- http://www.auto123.com/en/racing-ne...e-over-tire-supply-from-goodyear?artid=167133

 

[MustangRyan]

There is a rumor that Michelin might become the tire supplier- http://www.auto123.com/en/racing-ne...e-over-tire-supply-from-goodyear?artid=167133

Nothing to see here.

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/what-is-behind-nascar-s-meeting-with-michelin/

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

delete

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Great, now we have put up with more of Hamlin's "im gon win erry next race for eeturnitee" bs.

👎

You should be more concerned with his "I'm gonna get the championship this time" and then not do so as he's done a few times now.

Nothing to see here.

http://www.motorsport.com/nascar-cup/news/what-is-behind-nascar-s-meeting-with-michelin/

Why not both ?

The thing that people seem to forget about Goodyear is they actually know how to make a tire and have for decades, the problem is is that they seem to be lazy and relaxed because the contract with NASCAR was assured. Thus having to work as hard as say Pirelli for F1 or Bridgestone/Firestone for Indy or Michelin for GT and P1 then perhaps a better tire would be made like in the past.