2014 NASCAR Thread

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That's 17 flat tires on broadcast and perhaps a few more not accounted for yet... It could be multiple factors, but that's a lot of flat tires anyway, Goodyear surely has to take part of the blame for it.
 
Nice try by the broadcast booth for blaming the teams and not Goodyear.

Next up: repave of California ruining the racing (Goodyear will bring a brick hard tire) because Goodyear is so sorry at building a good tire
 
Danica had run over debris and it resulted in the tire getting cut, and Tony spun, which then caused the tire to go flat. Everything else was Goodyear's fault.
 
I think the current track surface made for some really great racing. But the backstretch has to be fixed. It damaged the cars and put pressure on the whole chassis, suspension, and whatnot. A track surface shouldn't be that bumpy.
 
Jeff Gluck@jeff_gluck36s
Pemberton says NASCAR official's uniform got stuck in the fence and he couldn't move. That's why pit road light switch wasn't flipped.



Join us next week when NASCAR officials get distracted by Martinsville hotdogs and forget there's a race going on completely.
Is that a joke? :lol:. That can't be true.
 
Podiums are meaningless in NASCAR.

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Jeff Gluck@jeff_gluck36s
Pemberton says NASCAR official's uniform got stuck in the fence and he couldn't move. That's why pit road light switch wasn't flipped.



Join us next week when NASCAR officials get distracted by Martinsville hotdogs and forget there's a race going on completely.
Following that, watch as a NASCAR official eats too much BBQ and has to take a bathroom break at the worst possible time. Then, the flag waver drops the yellow after believing there's an actual lady in black on the track. All this and more on FOX.
 
Unfortunately it's true. :lol:
You know, come to think of it, I'm sure this has happened in the past. Without Twitter we would have never known someone was so foolish enough to do this. I guess Twitter has FINALLY become useful. I think NASCAR should mandate shirts and skins for the officials..... wait, bad idea.
 
2 straight top 20's (17th at Bristol). :crazy: This is proof that the world is coming to an end soon. :sly:
She was too slow to chew up her tires. This is why she passed all the fast drivers late, when their tires failed.
 
Three words: camber and tire pressure. Don't blame the tire when you don't know how to set up the car for the conditions. Kind of like the F1 guys last year swapping the right & left side tires and then wondering why they came apart :dunce:
 
I think tires going down easily just makes the race more interesting. Complaining about bad tires is like complaining about the cars being unaerodynamic.
 
Three words: camber and tire pressure. Don't blame the tire when you don't know how to set up the car for the conditions. Kind of like the F1 guys last year swapping the right & left side tires and then wondering why they came apart :dunce:

They weren't wondering at all, it was a two way blame, yes the F1 teams knew they were pushing the limits, but Pirelli made a crap tire to begin with that became worse with teams not doing proper set up. Also let's clarify here, there were teams that followed correct set up and still had delamination. If there is really anyone to blame it is the FIA asking for a gimmick tire.

I say the same issues are here. The fact that several top teams and drivers lost tires shows more issue with Goodyear than teams. However, I say they're both to blame just more than the other. But certainly not one group, and using F1 is a poor example especially if not fully correct on the matter.
 
It was a combination of Goodyear, NASCAR adding more downforce to the cars since Goodyear last tested here, and the backstretch bumps.
I like Earnhardt Jr.'s idea to just repave the backstretch and not touch the turns.
Yea I agree with Jr.s' statement 👍
 
I wonder if the groves in the track had helped the tires to form punctures. I think they should fill in those groves and flatten out the backstretch but not repave the entire track to prevent the tires from going down.
 
If anything, now that NASCAR seems to be having problems with the back strait it's more likely to get repaved since it's been a problem for indycar since they returned to Fontana.
 
I don't listen to "athletes" whose most memorable 2 moments were 1. Being booed out of the building during the draft and 2. Allegedly throwing up during the Super Bowl
 
They weren't wondering at all, it was a two way blame, yes the F1 teams knew they were pushing the limits, but Pirelli made a crap tire to begin with that became worse with teams not doing proper set up. Also let's clarify here, there were teams that followed correct set up and still had delamination. If there is really anyone to blame it is the FIA asking for a gimmick tire.

I say the same issues are here. The fact that several top teams and drivers lost tires shows more issue with Goodyear than teams. However, I say they're both to blame just more than the other. But certainly not one group, and using F1 is a poor example especially if not fully correct on the matter.

I do not recall if any teems suffered delams with the tires on the correct side or not or they were simply reaching in set-ups to get ahold of the tires. I do agree that they asked for a gimmick tire and Pirelli gave them what they asked for and then took the fall for it.
As far as NASCAR and Goodyear, I do recall a race (Indy I believe) where they actually stopped the race, had Goodyear check everyone's info and found that nearly the entire field were outside of MFG suggestions. So much so that NASCAR had to mandate those suggestions to even finish the race.
Race drivers, crew chiefs and engineers push the limits all the time, how do they find out where the limit is unless they step over it? Just seems kind of funny nobody is ever willing to fess up and simply state "I guess we just pushed it too far" no, they all have to start pointing fingers because it is never their fault. I have seen this over and over again in the 40+ years I have been watching many forms of motorsports. So there were 17 failures, does that mean the other 35 teams were doing it wrong?
If you think a tire company with the experience of Goodyear can make a tire that lasts for 65000 road miles but can't make one barely last 50 miles on the track you must be rather naïve.
 
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