2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[CodeRedR51]

They're just renderings, chances are the production Mustang will looks a bit different. I'm just happy they are giving it IRS, a smaller overall shape and possible offering a turbocharged I4.

I'll believe the IRS thing when it comes directly out Ford's mouth.

 

[Slash]

When was the last time they turbo'd a Mustang?

Oh wait 1984...


2.3L 4 banger (I4) pushing 175-205hp. Could be built to WAY more though.

Maybe it'll work out. The SVO didn't do too bad.

 

[McLaren]

So did I.

Same here. Needs to be toned down; screams a bit of DBS in the front to me.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Maybe it'll work out. The SVO didn't do too bad.

A new SVO would be pretty sweet.

 

[Slash]

A new SVO would be pretty sweet.

I totally agree with this. Seeing as it was the high performnace Fox Body (besides the 5.0), bringing back the SVO as a limited edtition model on top of the rest of the models with Shelby included would be phenominal and a great move by Ford.

 

[YSSMAN]

The most-important part:

For one, it will be smaller in many ways. Most other markets prefer sports cars with a little less metal and a few more curves. That means a sleeker, less bulky Mustang that should weigh less and cheat the wind better.

Losing a couple hundred pounds could really liven the car up, especially as they looking to go with alternative powertrains. If they are downsizing the car, it makes me wonder just how small they'll make it.

 

[Slash]

The most-important part:



Losing a couple hundred pounds could really liven the car up, especially as they looking to go with alternative powertrains. If they are downsizing the car, it makes me wonder just how small they'll make it.

Probably not too much smaller than the current model. The current one isn't real big either. Give it a V8 with 400-425 horsies with less weight and wind resistance and a nice rear end (gears) and suspension and you've got a beast in your hands.

Then one thing I really don't like about those renders is that the Mustang logo is right in the middle of the rear end. I don't like it there. Put the gas cap back there again or something. Not that.

 

[Joey D]

Put the gas cap back there again or something. Not that.

I don't think current government regulation will ever allow the gas cap to be in the middle of the rear on the car. Plus that's an awful place to put it, my Oldsmobile had the gas cap under the number plate and it was a PITA to get the hose to reach properly.

 

[Slash]

Not now but before, yes.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Probably not too much smaller than the current model. The current one isn't real big either.

It makes my Thunderbird look small!

 

[Slash]

It makes my Thunderbird look small!

I'm assuming you own a newer one then

 

[Rotary Junkie]

'94, yeah.

If I owned a pre-'60 it'd look tiny next to an S197 Mustang too.

 

[Slash]

I always liked Thunderbirds. Nice cars they are. What she got in her?

 

[marluxiaXI11]

I don't think current government regulation will ever allow the gas cap to be in the middle of the rear on the car. Plus that's an awful place to put it, my Oldsmobile had the gas cap under the number plate and it was a PITA to get the hose to reach properly.

It would be pretty interesting if they did still allow it.
It's not too hard to reach on my Camaro.

 

[niky]

The renders merely look like the concept photoshopped onto an actual Mustang. Don't think the window and rear porthole (held over from the post-Fox body for how many years now?) match the styling all that well. Would prefer that they make a cleaner break from tradition.

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On the issue of weight... while the current Mustang is already pretty light compared to the bloat that is the Camaro and Charger... I don't think losing two hundred or more pounds would go amiss. That would give them the ability to realistically look at using a turbo-four for the base model without sacrificing speed.

 

[X-Power]

I really like the current Mustang, so I hope the new Mustang doesn't change too much. I'm going to wait until the finished car is unveiled before I judge its styling, renders are rarely accurate. I'm aware that this is supposed to be more of a global car now, but I hope it doesn't lose too much of its rather brutish American charm. I haven't been keeping up with automotive news lately, so has it been confirmed that this car will revive the Capri name in Europe? Or is that just rumours still?

 

[JCE]

Those renders of the blue car above are hideous--but still better than the first picture posted. If they toned down the bonnet some and added a bit more harder edges it might look decent. I just don't want it looking like it's FWD or some Euro/Asian sleek coupe. Make it small fine, but, give it some brutish American looks.

I don't care what base engine get stuffed in as long as there is a large displacement V8 somewhere in the normally affordable trim level--that means GT trim. If Shelby/Roush get the only V8's then I'm boycotting them (the next gen Mustang). No other engine configuration less than 8 cylinders sounds as good as a proper V8. Power and torque delivery from any of the American V8's made in the last 50 years as previously mentioned is spot on for spirited driving on city streets.

I love the lazy low 170bhp but 255tq power out-of-the-70's (305ci) 5.0 in my Camaro and really love the 290tq 4.6L Modular in my Mountaineer (especially with those 3.73 gears!). Torque makes me happy. Torque is good for you. Builds character.

I'm still hoping if they offer a V8 that they will at least offer a LRA (live rear axle) as an option because there are just too many Mustang enthusiasts who want drag cars and are set on LRA's. And that would cost Ford some money that they may or may not be able to make up world-wide. I personally could care less really just as long as the Mustang hate stops by the Euro-snobs reviewing cars.

^ That is my favorite "future" Mustang.

 

[homeforsummer]

Losing a couple hundred pounds could really liven the car up, especially as they looking to go with alternative powertrains. If they are downsizing the car, it makes me wonder just how small they'll make it.

I'd love to see how close they could get it to the original Mustang, actually.

Growing up in the UK I was pre-conditioned into thinking all American cars were huge, so the first time I saw a Mustang it surprised me. Okay, so it's big compared to a European car from the 1960s, but since modern cars have all grown massively since then it actually looks nicely-sized by modern standards. Whereas the current Mustang does look quite big.

Make it small fine, but, give it some brutish American looks.

I can understand the appeal of this, but I think it's incredibly hard to do thanks to the various modern regulations.

Brutish good looks were a lot easier when all you had to do was design a body that looks great, and bung a big engine in it wherever you fancied.

Now, you have to design a body that looks great... but make sure it's aerodynamic, has the required crumple zones etc, sets aside enough space for front and rear passengers, luggage, the engine, airbags, and all manner of other technologies. Some of those preclude others so it influences the styling.

I quite like the current Mustang, but realistically I'd say it looks more cartoonish than brutish - ditto the current Challenger and Camaro, both of which I also like but all of which also look a bit heavy-handed compared to their 60s/70s namesakes.

^ That is my favorite "future" Mustang.

Not keen on the proportions. The cabin looks too low and too far back, as if it's from a different car entirely. And really, everything below that cabin is pretty much what the current Mustang looks like anyway.

 

[peter_vod69]

Not keen on the proportions. The cabin looks too low and too far back, as if it's from a different car entirely. And really, everything below that cabin is pretty much what the current Mustang looks like anyway.

I think it's all the windscreen's fault. Seriously, look the effect of the rake of the screen on the rest of the cabin. If that car had a more upright screen it'd look good, but then it'd look like a bit of a caricature of the current 'stang.

Oh, and I'm just gonna leave this here...

http://sn65.com/SN65 story.htm

 

[TheCracker]

I'm still hoping if they offer a V8 that they will at least offer a LRA (live rear axle) as an option because there are just too many Mustang enthusiasts who want drag cars and are set on LRA's. And that would cost Ford some money that they may or may not be able to make up world-wide. I personally could care less really just as long as the Mustang hate stops by the Euro-snobs reviewing cars.

If it is sold as a world car but it just doesn't stack up against other cars in that market, why wouldn't 'Euro-snob reviewers' have a right to criticise it's LRA?

 

[homeforsummer]

If it is sold as a world car but it just doesn't stack up against other cars in that market, why wouldn't 'Euro-snob reviewers' have a right to criticise it's LRA?

God forbid tradition gets in the way of them making a better car.

 

[Keef]

God forbid tradition gets in the way of them making a better more expensive car.

Fixed that for you.

 

[homeforsummer]

Fixed that for you.

As a world car, I expect expense will be kept to a minimum. Ford isn't stupid - the next Mustang won't price itself out of competition with Chevy and Chrysler's efforts.

 

[TheCracker]

What's the unit cost difference between a LRA and IRS anyway?

If they can shift 70k Mustangs in the US, i'd imagine they could potentially double that with worldwide sales of a new model. More units sold, the cheaper the parts will be.

If it makes the difference between selling plenty of new Mustangs outside of the domestic market and not doing so, Ford would be stupid to not slap on some IRS.

 

[Keef]

We'll have to see. That would require a base platform from a different car or an entirely new platform altogether unless they want the mediocre results we got with the Terminator, an IRS system stuffed in where an LRA was. Then of course they have to develop it to perform sufficiently better than the current setup to make it seem like it wasn't a waste of time and money.

 

[TheCracker]

I'd imagine a new Mustang would have a new chassis too, the current one has it's origins going back to 1999.

Talking of which, that platform (the DEW98) was already engineered for IRS. Traditionalism could have been the only real reason for re-engineering it to run a LRA for the Mustang.

 

[niky]

The price argument against IRS is bunk... Ford could fit IRS to the platform, since it originally came equipped as such... and they could have hidden the cost in clever packaging options... The standard Mustang dealer "adjustments" alone are probably twice as much as what IRS would add.

In the end, the Mustang uses LRA for the same reason the Corvette uses transverse fiberglass leaf springs... It's part of the car's USP (unique selling proposition) and helps them convince people that it somehow makes the car better.

They could sell it with IRS and simply sell upgrades for draggers... But then the Mustang wouldn't be any different from the competition... supposedly.

 

[Slash]

From what I've gathered over the last week, most people in my area don't want a new model. They like the current one and don't want it to change for a some time.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

The current model is the one I would get if I ever wanted a Mustang. I don't like the new Ford Eclipse rendering direction.

 

[Slash]

The current model is the one I would get if I ever wanted a Mustang. I don't like the new Ford Eclipse rendering direction.

You can't tell me you'd pass up a classic if you had the chance would you? I'd have to kill a bitch