2015 Rolex Australian Grand Prix
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Quite a bit slower than last years car while in better conditions is not ideal a year later. I think more positive is that they are clearly running well under potential but they are still a lot off the pace. Just need to find 4-5 seconds from that potential and they will be quite competitive.
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- Neomone
They're gonna have to. They've gone from mid-pack to backmarker in the off season. Bad, bad times for them, and I quite like McLaren and Button. I wish they'd at least be in the hunt for the occasional podium.
I imagine Alonso is spewing. He's ditched Ferrari (who have gone from mid-pack to contender) for McLaren, who are the worst team on the grid with a functional car. Talk about unlucky. He's like the anti-Hamilton, he goes to a team and they start inexplicably sucking.
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Initial laps of session in Q1 are not usually the best, look how slow both Mercedes drivers were last year, don't think they used the best tyres but it started raining at end of Q1 so it wasn't possible to improve. If looking at how it was compared to last years time, car is slower so not really positive but potential is but they need a lot as it is not a small margin they are off the pace by.
I think Alonso will still be happy with his move as his only hope of beating Mercedes is realistically I think the McLaren-Honda combination.
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- HamiltonMP427
Better yet he goes to a team and his previous one improves the next season
Next year that is
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Next year seems the case for all the other teams in terms of championship battle. Will need to see race pace though tomorrow as Ferrari I think were quite good yesterday.
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- HamiltonMP427
I say next year simply because it's the truth for McLaren over all others, I don't see Mc-Honda getting further than where they are now, simply because of the engine token development agreement all the engine manufactures agreed to. Honda spent extra year developing in labs outside of the circuit and suffered for it, and now will suffer more due to the amount of tokens they will have to use for the entire year, which is only 9. Compared to the other three getting to use 32. Can't develop a troubled engine on 9 tokens and expect to gain with baby steps, when the others just make massive leaps.
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Weren't you watching FP3? He had a pretty serious problem - the engine started producing torque when he wasn't actually pushing the accelerator. At one point he drove clean off the circuit while under brakes. When Red Bull couldn't fix the problem in time for qualifying, they had to detune the engine to make it drivable.
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Still stoked on the race tomorrow though. After checking the Q3 times, I have to agree that Mercedes still has quite a lead over the other teams. But it's great to see that Ferrari finally has (what seems to be at least) a good and fast car.
Let's see if it's reliable, if it is, then it could be one hell of a battle between Williams and Ferrari.
Also, I'm glad that Lotus is finally racing for the Top 10 places again, the last season was just utter painful for them.
Let's see if it's reliable, if it is, then it could be one hell of a battle between Williams and Ferrari.
Also, I'm glad that Lotus is finally racing for the Top 10 places again, the last season was just utter painful for them.
[citation needed]
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Long term, maybe.
This year, it seems like he'd have a better shot in a Ferrari or a Williams, but we can hope for that to change as the season goes on.
That's the answer! McLaren ditches Alonso, goes back to Button/Magnussen, instant title contender.
I guess the answer to "Weren't you watching FP3?" is "No" then.
No seriously, there was nothing on the TV broadcast that suggested that Kvyat still had that particular car problem in qualifying, so where exactly did you get this information from?
And to answer hsv:
My personal opinion is that JEV got a raw deal and Kvyat isn't ready to drive for Red Bull.
And to answer hsv:
I don't know what F1 season you were watching but Kvyat's debut season wasn't 'superb'. It was good yes, but JEV was clearly the better driver and Kvyat qualifying 5th in Russia, only to completely botch the start, fall behind JEV and ultimately finish 14th pretty much summed up his season.
My personal opinion is that JEV got a raw deal and Kvyat isn't ready to drive for Red Bull.
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- CARBOYXJR
JEV was mistreated for years, they had a ton of young drivers coming through, they take priority. He's now happy in FE, which suits him. And why isn't Kvyat ready?
They were pretty much even throughout the year. It swung about a bit, but there was no clear dominant teammate. To say that "botching it up" is a summary of his season leads me to question what races you actually watched.
Listening to the commentary? Just because you don't hear something doesn't mean it's a bare-faced lie when someone brings it up.
Ok, let me make one thing clear before you attack me any further. I watched almost every race live last season and watched most of FP2 and FP3 and all of qualifying this weekend. I watched Kvyat lose the team-mate battle to JEV and felt that he needed another season in Toro Rosso to mature into a top-level driver. And besides, JEV's 'plateau' is very high based on his performances vs Ricciardo over the 2012/2013 period they spent as team-mates and Ricciardo's performance at Red Bull last season.
The commentary we got in Australia said nothing about Kvyat still having a problem in qualifying so I could only assume that the FP3 problem had been fixed. Hence, [citation needed] from the Brits who get those magically well informed commentators who love riding on Hamilton's you-know-what and ignore his dirty driving habits...
The commentary we got in Australia said nothing about Kvyat still having a problem in qualifying so I could only assume that the FP3 problem had been fixed. Hence, [citation needed] from the Brits who get those magically well informed commentators who love riding on Hamilton's you-know-what and ignore his dirty driving habits...
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Especially when our "commentary" amounted to a) a network personality who cannot pronounce half the names on the grid, b) a former World Champion whose contributions amount to complaining that he cannot understand the current generation of technology, c) a motorcycle racer, and d) Mark Webber, who, to his credit, wasn't bad.
Naturally, I went elsewhere for my information - Autosport, Sky Sports F1, F1 Fanatic, the BBC, and half a dozen other blogs and Twitter feeds, including James Allen, Adam Cooper and Craig Scarborough.
I'm not British.
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- mustafur
You didn't watch every session, otherwise you wouldn't be saying that.
What you have done is look at the score board.
For a Midfield team JEV is good, for a top line team he is no where near Ricciardo or Kyvat because he doesn't have the ability to qualify well or have that extra 10% when he needs it.
Ricciardo pace wise destroyed Vergne, and at some races it was beyond Embarrasing(watch 2012 Korean GP).
And same with Kyvat (Watch Austria and Italian GP) but the problem is the STR isn't solid points material everywhere so the points they score isn't an accurate reflection on there pace in cars that can score strongly everywhere.
What you have done is look at the score board.
For a Midfield team JEV is good, for a top line team he is no where near Ricciardo or Kyvat because he doesn't have the ability to qualify well or have that extra 10% when he needs it.
Ricciardo pace wise destroyed Vergne, and at some races it was beyond Embarrasing(watch 2012 Korean GP).
And same with Kyvat (Watch Austria and Italian GP) but the problem is the STR isn't solid points material everywhere so the points they score isn't an accurate reflection on there pace in cars that can score strongly everywhere.
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- CARBOYXJR
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If I could venture an opinion, I would suggest that you lose the attitude.
Now, it's pretty obvious that you feel that Kvyat was a poor choice for the second Red Bull, particularly when Vergne was available. However, one poor qualifying session - even without the mechanical problems that he suffered less than three hours beforehand - does not prove this to an absolute, gospel truth. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion, but if you wish to persuade others of your ideas, insulting their intelligence is perhaps the worst possible way to go about it.
