2016/17 Premier League & General Football Discussion
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I'm more interested to see what the atmosphere will be like, I reckon it'll be a bit hostile considering the reaction to the sacking, I wonder if the owners will be there? they usually are..
Leicester need the win more than Liverpool due to them now being in the relegation zone, no Henderson for Liverpool tonight.
Leicester need the win more than Liverpool due to them now being in the relegation zone, no Henderson for Liverpool tonight.
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If Leicester come out and win in Liverpool, the players will all be accused of not playing for Ranieri. If they come out sluggish and play to their typical 32% possession with 0 goals, everyone will blame the owners for making a rash decision.
It's basically a lose/lose situation where Leicester can only pray they find a few wins to stay up. I don't think tonight will be one of them but they have some easier games coming up.
It's basically a lose/lose situation where Leicester can only pray they find a few wins to stay up. I don't think tonight will be one of them but they have some easier games coming up.
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I hope you guys can watch the video
Feyenoord - PSV, 1-1 until late in the game.
Corner is given to Feyenoord, header on the goal, goalie stops the ball, and then pulls the ball towards him, over the line. (17 sec into the vid)
Feyenoord - PSV, 1-1 until late in the game.
Corner is given to Feyenoord, header on the goal, goalie stops the ball, and then pulls the ball towards him, over the line. (17 sec into the vid)
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Leicester, I really don't know how to feel about their performance, to answer Famine's question I think Ranieri might have lost the plot a bit and tried to do too much and by doing that he probably lost the dressing room, however I still say the players should take the blame for not putting the effort in, it was back to last season's Leicester tonight and i think the first goal summed it up, it was a typical Vardy finish that we saw plenty of times last season.
However Leicester did have help from their opponents, Liverpool were awful, they had 15 days to prepare and had a training camp in La Manga, what were they doing there?!
However Leicester did have help from their opponents, Liverpool were awful, they had 15 days to prepare and had a training camp in La Manga, what were they doing there?!
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I'm guessing "Helaas kan deze video niet worden afgespeeld" translates into english as "something something video unsupported/blocked"?
I would say a bit of both. Ranieri tried to change a winning formula right from the get-go, I would guess he was trying to preemptively counter any opposition adaptions to the tactics from last season... one problem being the players just aren't suited to playing keep ball and finding their way through a massed defence. So Ranieri tinkering when he should've left things well alone... his eventual dismissal can be laid partly on that.
One of the reasons they took the title was the sheer confidence they had in themselves, any team with self-doubt wouldn't have taken apart Man City and Spurs the way Leicester did at the business end of last season. As this season has gone on, that belief seems to have drained away, both in themselves and their manager. Quite how they suddenly returned to their energetic hustle and bustle style of play tonight, and fully committed to it... well, if anyone does a general tour of social media or various forums/message boards, there's quite a few people distinctly unimpressed with the players.
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https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...iverpool-claudio-ranieri-sacking-jurgen-klopp
This strikes me as really odd... 'we played better because we were annoyed at criticism' - really? The implication of that comment/attitude is that Leicester could have been playing better all season - the question is why... it doesn't take a genius to figure out that once the pressure/novelty has worn off, they've taken their foot off the gas in the (misguided) belief that they can afford to do so. The EPL is so competitive, however, that anyone who plays at less that 100% (which is clearly what has been implied here) are going to struggle, and they certainly have. Ranieri didn't strike me as a manager who would put the fear of God into his players, and that Leicester's success last year was due to the drive of the players to achieve the impossible - but now that they've done that, they've stopped performing and now (clearly) need a kick up the arse in order to compete. Sadly, it looks like Ranieri was not the man for that job, but it is quite staggering how players of the calibre of Jamie Vardy can openly admit that their performance levels depend so heavily on their emotional state.
This strikes me as really odd... 'we played better because we were annoyed at criticism' - really? The implication of that comment/attitude is that Leicester could have been playing better all season - the question is why... it doesn't take a genius to figure out that once the pressure/novelty has worn off, they've taken their foot off the gas in the (misguided) belief that they can afford to do so. The EPL is so competitive, however, that anyone who plays at less that 100% (which is clearly what has been implied here) are going to struggle, and they certainly have. Ranieri didn't strike me as a manager who would put the fear of God into his players, and that Leicester's success last year was due to the drive of the players to achieve the impossible - but now that they've done that, they've stopped performing and now (clearly) need a kick up the arse in order to compete. Sadly, it looks like Ranieri was not the man for that job, but it is quite staggering how players of the calibre of Jamie Vardy can openly admit that their performance levels depend so heavily on their emotional state.
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That's... unbelievable.
Well, time to catch up. This one hurts a bit...
23rd February - Claudio Ranieri (Leciester, sacked) Premier League
Sackings: 24
Resignations: 6
Total: 30
I'm rather upset with this one; I've always been a Claudio Ranieri fan ever since he first came to Chelsea in 2000. It's painfully obvious what has happened at Leicester this season even if we won't ever truly know why. That's two years in a row now where the champions, a team in blue, play horribly, get their manager sacked and immediately end a long losing run.
However. I saw it coming. We all saw it coming. Since December we've all been waiting for it. The club *are* in a relegation fight and a team hasn't been relegated as champions since 1937/38. If you're losing that much, and sliding that fast, something has got to give and it's always the manager with whom the buck stops even if the players are putting in a half-shift each week. The alleged rumour is that four unnamed players went to the board about Ranieri.
It's just annoying that such a lovely story has come to a horrible end. And then those swines went and comfortably beat Liverpool. It was nice to see that the fans were still behind Ranieri even if the players hadn't been.
For Ranieri's sake I hope Leicester don't go down; if they go down they'll forever be remembered as the team which were relegated as champions and would overshadow them actually winning the title.
If they stay up their title win will stick in the memory longer and their awful title defence will subside; nobody really talks about how Leeds, winners of the 1991/92 championship, went on to "defend" their title and finished 17th in the inaugral 1992/93 Premier League, not winning a single away game and only avoiding relegation by two points.
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I don't think anything, even relegation, will detract from Ranieri and Leicester's achievement in the long term but perhaps the prospect of embarrassment might spur the players into action, since an average of £40,000 a week is clearly not motivating enough 
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I would have to say that he lost the dressing room. We can all agree that last year's Leicester players went well above their talent levels and you have to believe that Ranieri had inspired them. He got more out of them than even they could have expected. This season, they came out flat, lost the first game to Hull and never really got going. Ranieri was unable to inspire them again. "Let's win the whole thing again! Who's with me? Anybody?" No amount of tinkering could have turned last season's Player of the Year into the invisible man he has been this season. But when you're at the top, there's only one place left to go...
I agree with others in here that his tinkering may have led to some players questioning him and losing focus. Ultimately the players seem to have become complacent and yesterday, they looked like the team that were able to surprise the PL last year. Okazaki and Vadry's work rates were ridiculous and they put constant pressure on Liverpool's back line. Vardy, in particular, had a smile on his face when he mis-hit a ball yesterday where in other games this year he was yelling in frustration during the same kind of error.
It's a shame Ranieri had to go but if it keeps Leicester in the PL, it was the best decision. It's hard to think he could lose the players so quickly after bringing them to the pinnacle of the game but that seems to be what happened.
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Pretty sure my Dad must be psychic since he said Mark McGhee would be sacked shortly:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39115382
Losing 5-1 at home to Dundee last weekend was not so much the straw that broke the camel's back as it was an entire haystack being dropped from a great height.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39115382
Losing 5-1 at home to Dundee last weekend was not so much the straw that broke the camel's back as it was an entire haystack being dropped from a great height.
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One thing about Ranieri though is that despite being a very nice friendly man he isn't really a good manager, people seem to have forgotten that he got sacked from his last job at Greece because they lost to the Faroe Islands, the Leicester title win was a freak result, a once in a generation like thing, it was his first ever title win in his entire management career, I'm not saying the decision to sack him was the right one because it really wasn't but I'm just putting it out there that Ranieri has hardly pulled up any trees as a manager, apart from Leicester!
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McGhee's excuse for losing 5 against Dundee was that he was missing 3 of his first choice back 4. Fair enough, until you realise that those first choice defenders lost 12 goals in the previous 3 games!
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