2016 F1 Testing General Discussion Thread

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Eh I wouldn't be so sure. Unless Ferrari were really sand bagging, or running a very heavy car, they're easily the top runner again. As I've said in the Constructor thread, just quietly wait until 2017.
German media has been reporting today that Ferrari are potentially facing engine issues. Could be something, could be nothing.
 
German media has been reporting today that Ferrari are potentially facing engine issues. Could be something, could be nothing.

They've had 2 problems already, HAAS has had engine issues plague them (wing failure was minor) during testing. So I'd say it's highly possible, Mercedes teams haven't had many issues except for the main team. And that may just be due to how much running their putting on these engines in a matter of days, rather than months.

My point is, a lot of people wanted a fight at the top, I can respect that. But while people were saying that, I've said it isn't going to happen. Today and last week proves this a bit more than those opposed to what I'm saying would like to see from Mercedes right out the gates (not you but there are those here).
 
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The Ferrari and Mclaren sound like a bag of spanners on the overrun. Not pleasant. :yuck:
 
If you squint, it kind of looks like an Indycar with those sensor arrays :sly:
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Maybe it's just me, but I think the low end splutter of the honda is a bit less pronounced now on the second test with the 2016 engine.

 
Mercedes look very calm in testing, and the week looked pretty much routine for them. Running only the medium tire for the whole week sort of makes sense even with the new tire rules. Majority of the calendar used the medium tire last year and getting a lot of data with the tire you'll likely be using the most opens up a lot of strategies.

The midfield looks interesting though, pretty much everyone besides Sabuer has a good chance to haul points this season.

Edit: After seeing today's test, I take back what I said about Sauber, now I think every team has a legitimate chance for points. Renault's reliability issues a bit unsurprising, but Ferrari's troubles are.
 
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Today's results. Haas had an issue with the turbo and got no timed laps done.

1. V. Bottas 1:23:261

2. L. Hamilton 1:23:622

3. K. Magnussen 1:23:933

4. S. Vettel 1:24:611

5. J. Button 1:25:183

6. D. Ricciardo 1:25:235

7. C. Sainz Jr. 1:25:300

8. S. Perez 1:25:593

9. N. Rosberg 1:26:298

10. P. Wehrlein 1:27:064

11. M. Ericsson 1:27:862

12. E. Gutiérrez No Time
 
Maybe it's just me, but I think the low end splutter of the honda is a bit less pronounced now on the second test with the 2016 engine.



So far, it does seemed abit turned down. I wonder if the new found Horsepower in the 2015 engine was responsible for the increased volume since there was so much more then before.

The Ferrari and Mclaren sound like a bag of spanners on the overrun. Not pleasant. :yuck:

Maybe I'm just weird, but I like those. The biggest problem I've had with the V6s (which wasn't the volume like so many people have said or how they sound) is that they for the most part lacked...character, like there was nothing to differentiate them sound wise. In the days of the V10 without even watching, you could tell the Ferrari from the Renault or from the Honda or from the Toyota (something F1CE nails beautifully and very few PC mods to this day get right) and likewise with the V8s. The V6s though, you just couldn't. Then comes 2015 and The McLaren Honda. Sure it was slower then the formation of the Universe and was about as reliable as a Chinese PS4 knockoff but without even watching, you instantly knew it was the Honda and nothing else. Now in 2016, you'll know its again the Honda or the Ferrari and even better, they don't sound the same with the Honda having some characteristic popping while the Ferrari has more of a gutty stutter.
 
Compared to the concept images, that thing looks annoying in real form. Also seeing this shows the intent the FIA have on bringing a covered system to the sport.
 
The start lights and flags will be an issue, anything requiring the driver to look up further than the nose and the circuit... The concept looked a lot more sleeker than this, mainly in the area of the Claro logo.
 
Is there anything to suggest Ferrari are against the Halo system? I just wonder whether they intentionally made it look awful in an attempt to dissuade reaction to how it appears... It is very bulky and they have made zero attempt to blend the sides into the bodywork. I know it is an early test, but why do it at all if they didn't feel this was close to final solution?...
 
Is there anything to suggest Ferrari are against the Halo system? I just wonder whether they intentionally made it look awful in an attempt to dissuade reaction to how it appears... It is very bulky and they have made zero attempt to blend the sides into the bodywork. I know it is an early test, but why do it at all if they didn't feel this was close to final solution?...

I was very impressed with how thin it was, I thought the area in front of the driver would have been much more bulky.

The start lights and flags will be an issue, anything requiring the driver to look up further than the nose and the circuit...

They haven't had to look out of the car for flags or start notifications for quite a few years now.
 
I was very impressed with how thin it was, I thought the area in front of the driver would have been much more bulky.

It isn't even comparable to the concept images in how thin it is.

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I could understand if the upper halo part of it required strengthening, but Ferrari's solution is much larger.
 
Only at the lowest point though, the entire section directly under the Claro logo could be thinner and then it really wouldn't look so bad. The blending of the side structures into the engine cover / head protection I'll allow for now since the main issue is how bad this thong looks from the front...
 
Only at the lowest point though, the entire section directly under the Claro logo could be thinner and then it really wouldn't look so bad.

I wonder if there are other design considerations? It's not all about aesthetics - it has a serious job to do. Is there anything you like?

The blending of the side structures into the engine cover / head protection I'll allow for now

Very grand of you! I hope you rang Charlie W and let him know. Why are you so grumpy today?

the main issue is how bad this thong looks from the front...

Ah, wardrobe issues. Say no more guv'nor ;) :)
 
I wonder if there are other design considerations?

I wonder if those design considerations include generating downforce or channelling air into the airbox.

I'd hate to be coming up to Eau Rouge with that in the way, you wouldn't be able to see a thing until you're mid corner.
 
I'm struggling to see what the problem is. I really can't see what the issue would be, with using that at Spa.

(excuse the unintentional sight puns)
 
Remembering how that spring hit Massa, I don't think this is gonna do a lot.
 
Remembering how that spring hit Massa, I don't think this is gonna do a lot.
If they added Plexiglas it'd help. Apparently Red Bull will be testing the thing I've been wanting somebody to try. A Plexiglas type of shroud, 1980's CART style.
 
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