2016 Le Mans 24 Hours - 15th to 19th June 2016

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Dan
Can someone give me a recap of what happened in the last hour of the race? Use spoiler tags, please.
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Honestly, nothing. Nothing of any interest whatsoever. It was plain sailing and it all seemed sealed. The Risi Ferrari that was P2 on GTE-Pro was threatened with a ridiculous penalty and decided to stay on track because it would've costed them the podium. Then, 5 minutes to go, Nakajima's car slowed down a lot on Mulsanne. He got it running again but it was at 50% power at most. It came to the main straight and just stopped right there, completely lifeless as the #2 whooshed by. 2 minutes later the race was over. Then it dropped that #5 got disqualified because reasons.
 
This years LeMans race was amazing to watch and I'm glad I picked this year to start watching motorsports again! I look forward to more of these. :)

Anyway, congrats to the victors in each class.
 
Dan
Can someone give me a recap of what happened in the last hour of the race? Use spoiler tags, please.
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TS050 #5 was leading through out the last 30 minutes, and in the last 7 minutes or so, it had come to light that the TS050 was losing power (this happened on the Mulsanne Straight, IIRC). The TS050 then carried on to the end of the lap, where it ran out of power and stalled right before the finish, handing the victory over the Porsche. It was pretty sad seeing the majority of the people in the garage crying. Oh, and after that, #5 was DQ'd for not finishing the final lap.
 
CarBastard
Honestly, nothing. Nothing of any interest whatsoever. It was plain sailing and it all seemed sealed. The Risi Ferrari that was P2 on GTE-Pro was threatened with a ridiculous penalty and decided to stay on track because it would've costed them the podium. Then, 5 minutes to go, Nakajima's car slowed down a lot on Mulsanne. He got it running again but it was at 50% power at most. It came to the main straight and just stopped right there, completely lifeless as the #2 whooshed by. 2 minutes later the race was over. Then it dropped that #5 got disqualified because reasons.
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I don't know all the drivers or which numbers belong to the car. Which team/manufacturer?
 
TS040
TS050 #5 was leading through out the last 30 minutes, and in the last 7 minutes or so, it had come to light that the TS050 was losing power (this happened on the Mulsanne Straight, IIRC). The TS050 then carried on to the end of the lap, where it ran out of power and stalled right before the finish, handing the victory over the Porsche. It was pretty sad seeing the majority of the people in the garage crying. Oh, and after that, #5 was DQ'd for not finishing the final lap.
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Oh man. That's horrible. The last sentence is just throwing salt in the wound. Sorry for you. :(
 
Savolainen83
Try this:
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Thanks for the video.

Man, Toyota almost had the winning advantage over the 919s and secured a victory for a Japanese manufacturer winning the event since the 787b! :( Hopefully, they will get it next time.

Congratulations Porsche on another victory, especially two win at Le Sarthe after returning to prototype racing since the 911 GT1 in the late 90's. Great job once again! :D:tup:
 
My oh my there's a lot of silliness in this thread now.

It sucks for Toyota. It really does. I was so hoping they'd win this one. They didn't. It is 24 hours of Le Mans not 23.55 hours. They didn't make it. That is on them.

Porsche behaved correctly. They pitted with a few minutes to go and changed the tyres. You know why? To give Toyota an extra 50 seconds lead and let them know they'd beaten them. They had pushed them all the way and truthfully no one can say that if they had come out on top via the strategy of the pit stops could begrudge them the win. They earned it. End of. Deal with it.

What is not acceptable on the other hand is the unforgivable behaviour of the ACU in robbing the #5 of its 2nd place using a rule that was never even meant for this issue at all. That rule was brought in way back in the day when Corvette used to turn up and build huge leads in GT and then park in the garage for hours before coming out to take the flag. It was NOT meant for this sort of thing at all.
 
CarBastard
Honestly, nothing. Nothing of any interest whatsoever. It was plain sailing and it all seemed sealed. The Risi Ferrari that was P2 on GTE-Pro was threatened with a ridiculous penalty and decided to stay on track because it would've costed them the podium. Then, 5 minutes to go, Nakajima's car slowed down a lot on Mulsanne. He got it running again but it was at 50% power at most. It came to the main straight and just stopped right there, completely lifeless as the #2 whooshed by. 2 minutes later the race was over. Then it dropped that #5 got disqualified because reasons.
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Did the driver tried to push the car to finish line ?
 
Tired Tyres
What is not acceptable on the other hand is the unforgivable behaviour of the ACU in robbing the #5 of its 2nd place using a rule that was never even meant for this issue at all. That rule was brought in way back in the day when Corvette used to turn up and build huge leads in GT and then park in the garage for hours before coming out to take the flag. It was NOT meant for this sort of thing at all.
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Completely agree with this. The ACO just redefined cruelty.
 
Ridox2JZGTE
Did the driver tried to push the car to finish line ?
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They didn't show if he tried but he would've had to push it for almost an entire lap. I'm sure he thought about it, that he even tried, I know I would've, but nobody can push a car for 10 km in less than, say, an hour.
 
sems4arsenal
I'm not well versed into Endurance racing but why are people not liking the Ford GT win?
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In the GT classes, there's a set of rules called Balance of Performance, designed to try and keep the playing field fairly level, so faster cars are pegged back with "success ballast" and air restrictors, whilst slower cars are given slight weight breaks and power increases (through larger air restrictors). Things like downforce levels and tyres (think of the difference between new softs versus used hards) are not taken in to consideration. The governing body, the ACO, have access to all the telemetary of the GT cars so they can see if anyone is deliberately slowing down to appear slower than they actually are (known as sandbagging, as in hypothetically adding sandbags to your car as extra weight that you dump later on). Changes can be made up to race day morning at Le Mans.

Ford have been accused of running slower than they could by using old tyres and unsuitable downforce levels, amongst other things, to "cheat" the system, so that they could then release their true performance during the race and win.
 
Tired Tyres
What is not acceptable on the other hand is the unforgivable behaviour of the ACU in robbing the #5 of its 2nd place using a rule that was never even meant for this issue at all. That rule was brought in way back in the day when Corvette used to turn up and build huge leads in GT and then park in the garage for hours before coming out to take the flag. It was NOT meant for this sort of thing at all.
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Rules don't work on a "meant to be" way.
 
CarBastard
They didn't show if he tried but he would've had to push it for almost an entire lap. I'm sure he thought about it, that he even tried, I know I would've, but nobody can push a car for 10 km in less than, say, an hour.
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Ooops :eek: I thought the finish line is not far away :(
 
Roo
In the GT classes, there's a set of rules called Balance of Performance, designed to try and keep the playing field fairly level, so faster cars are pegged back with "success ballast" and air restrictors, whilst slower cars are given slight weight breaks and power increases (through larger air restrictors). Things like downforce levels and tyres (think of the difference between new softs versus used hards) are not taken in to consideration. The governing body, the ACO, have access to all the telemetary of the GT cars so they can see if anyone is deliberately slowing down to appear slower than they actually are (known as sandbagging, as in hypothetically adding sandbags to your car as extra weight that you dump later on). Changes can be made up to race day morning at Le Mans.

Ford have been accused of running slower than they could by using old tyres and unsuitable downforce levels, amongst other things, to "cheat" the system, so that they could then release their true performance during the race and win.
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And the penalty which was given to Risi right into the ends of the race added insult to injury as if they would of gone into the pit then we could of seen a Ford 1-2.
 
63 Corvette P7 in GTE Pro. Definitely not what Corvette Racing was looking for out of that car, but considering it never even got to race last year, the fact that that car even finished the race has to be a victory in itself.
 
Toyota Team Managers when they get back to Japan:


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24 hours in ten minutes:



Didn't know they had to start under safety car conditions because of the early wet weather, until just now. When was the last time this happened...?
 
Slum
1. I'm very hung over, and awoke to watch the worst end in the history of any race I've watched, this decade.

2. I'm not really THAT serious bruh

3. I'm not going to sit here and let these silly VAG fans (Nothing worse than a Porsche Fan IMHO), let this go to their head.

4. No one can argue that Porsche didn't WIN this race, Toyota just LOST it.

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No reward for not classifying... Therefore well done to Porsche and the other teams.
 
This year Le Mans is pretty good I guess. Congratulations to #2 Porsche after struggle and battling between #5 and #6 Toyota. Quite shocked there's sudden trouble for #1 Porsche though. And for Audi.... not really a good results I guess.

For Toyota that was superb performance! I don't expect them to being on top at first, but they still consistent, until that last 5 minutes... They have a competitive car this year and good job for the team. About the breakdown, what I can say that everything can happen in motorsport that sometimes the predictions are different than the results.

Anyway, the race is not over. There's still upcoming races in WEC calendar such as Nürburgring, Spa, Fuji etc. It will be nice if Toyota can take the season victory, that will be the cure for the heartbroken fans out there :D
 
wowbaggerBR
Rules don't work on a "meant to be" way.
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But the issue is the lack of clarity in the rule. It's simply outdated. If it's having such an adverse effect on the results of a race in a situation it's not intended for, it needs to be re-written.
 

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