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prisonermonkeys · Jun 27, 2015

Niklaus Ajo just had an incredible moment across the line at Assen.

Mike Rotch · Jun 27, 2015

prisonermonkeys
Niklaus Ajo just had an incredible moment across the line at Assen.

One for the highlight reel. Great Moto3 race, although the BT Sport commentary is atrocious.

prisonermonkeys · Jun 27, 2015

Mike Rotch
One for the highlight reel.

His reaction was all wrong. Yes, he lost nine spots in one corner, but he pulled off something that probably only Marco Simoncelli could have done.

Mike Rotch · Jun 27, 2015

prisonermonkeys
His reaction was all wrong. Yes, he lost nine spots in one corner, but he pulled off something that probably only Marco Simoncelli could have done.

#likeaboss

Peasantslayer · Jun 27, 2015

It was only ever going to end in tears, Marquez should be given the win.

prisonermonkeys · Jun 27, 2015

Peasantslayer
It was only ever going to end in tears, Marquez should be given the win.

Why? He hadn't completed the pass and punted Rossi off.

Dennisch · Jun 27, 2015

Exactly. Look at the replay. Marquez isn't passed Rossi and just punts into the side.

Rossi won, as it should. Good racing, again.

So great to see how popular Rossi is.

Peasantslayer · Jun 27, 2015

It looked to me like Marquez had made the move but Rossi tried to defend a position which was already lost.

Bo · Jun 27, 2015

Sick of Marquez, genuinely. Has absolutely no finesse or racecraft in a pressured situation. Seriously, if he was just willing to accept not being fastest for once, he'd be in with a shot at the title.

Mike Rotch · Jun 27, 2015

Peasantslayer
It looked to me like Marquez had made the move but Rossi tried to defend a position which was already lost.

MM can eat 🤬 and learn to stop being a baby. He tried to stuff it up the inside like he did with Lorenzo in Jerez in 2013 and got schooled. He's done it enough times, he should put a sock in it when it doesnt work.

Rossi, what can you say. Absolute legend and a race win for the highlight reel, after Barcalona/ Jorge and Valencia/ Sete.

prisonermonkeys · Jun 27, 2015

Peasantslayer
It looked to me like Marquez had made the move but Rossi tried to defend a position which was already lost.

No, he was never far enough alongside to be able to claim the pass. And the overhead shot showed a very awkward line into the first half of the chicane - he was always going to either pull up or run wide to make the second corner. It was a banzai move to try and scare Rossi off the racing line, but Rossi didn't take the bait because he's Valentino Rossi.

Small_Fryz · Jun 27, 2015

Rossi... GOAT!!!

He deserves this title and hopefully another one or two!!

If he can beat Lorenzo and Marquez in their prime when he is mid - high 30's.... Incredible.

Whodoyouthink · Jun 27, 2015

Am I the only one who was thrown off by the race being on Saturday instead of good ol' Sunday? Granted, if you pay any attention to the calendar, you can usually avoid this. But for whatever reason, I did not pay enough attention to notice it was a Saturday race, only only that there was a race this weekend :lol:

. Too bad there wasn't any replays on FS1...

I love Rossi, as I also do Marquez. From what I've read, Rossi cut the chicane, but you guys are saying it was a forced cut. At least I can be happy when either rider wins (probably an unpopular opinion at this point).

HKS racer · Jun 27, 2015

Whodoyouthink
Am I the only one who was thrown off by the race being on Saturday instead of good ol' Sunday? Granted, if you pay any attention to the calendar, you can usually avoid this. But for whatever reason, I did not pay enough attention to notice it was a Saturday race, only only that there was a race this weekend . Too bad there wasn't any replays on FS1...

I love Rossi, as I also do Marquez. From what I've read, Rossi cut the chicane, but you guys are saying it was a forced cut. At least I can be happy when either rider wins (probably an unpopular opinion at this point).

No you are not the only one! LOL
I just saw the race and has been a great one. Rossi on pole and Marquez attached all the time. Until 7 laps to go then they started a show passing each other and the thrilling finish was the icing on the cake. Impressive battle.

I think Marquez and Rossi are the best MotoGP entertainment of the last 20 years.

hsv
Sick of Marquez, genuinely. Has absolutely no finesse or racecraft in a pressured situation. Seriously, if he was just willing to accept not being fastest for once, he'd be in with a shot at the title.

You are right.
But with Marquez being Marquez (as long as no one gets hurt) races are unpredictable and fun.

adamp93 · Jun 27, 2015

If anyone was at fault it was definitely Marquez, it looked as if Rossi was going to make the corner and Marquez went off track even with an extra improvised brake. What I will say is Rossi definitely took advantage because the chicane was there, if that had been any other track Marquez probably would have won (before race direction have their say). Is that him being clever or naughty? I'd say slightly more naughty, and I really want Rossi to win the title despite my small wager on Lorenzo.

Mike Rotch · Jun 28, 2015

Race direction has concluded it was a racing incident, with Rossi ahead throughout:
http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/220532/1/motogp-race-director-talks-rossi-marquez-incident.html

“We've obviously reviewed the incident from all the camera angles we have. The decision is racing incident. No advantage was gained,” Webb told Crash.net. “The basis of that decision is primarily the helicopter shot that shows at every stage Valentino was ahead. So Valentino had the right to the line.

“So Valentino was ahead. He was not passed. As they reached the apex of the right-hand turn Marc touched Valentino, which made [Valentino] go wide. So that's a racing incident. It's unavoidable.

“The two balancing things are that it was a hard pass with contact and you are not allowed to push another rider off the line. But the end result was that they entered and exited that series of corners in the same position. No advantage gained. End of story.”

Peasantslayer · Jun 28, 2015

I still can't see it, I wanted Rossi to win but it looks like one of those were Marquez gave him a choice, make contact or back out, Rossi had plenty of time to see Marquez was at the apex.

MagpieRacer · Jun 28, 2015

Peasantslayer
I still can't see it, I wanted Rossi to win but it looks like one of those were Marquez gave him a choice, make contact or back out, Rossi had plenty of time to see Marquez was at the apex.

One of those is fine in a car. Not on a motorbike.

InSight · Jun 29, 2015

Marc could easily quote Senna in that situation and gained some fans.

prisonermonkeys · Jul 9, 2015

Marco Melandri has left Gresini - he wasn't doing much there - and will be replaced by Michael Laverty.

Whodoyouthink · Jul 12, 2015

That was quite a nice battle between the top 4 this morning. Was a bit surprised Marquez had the win in him. Equally surprised Pedrosa even got my attention :lol:

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Guess the Hondas work quite well at that track. Nice to see Rossi even hugging them. Too bad we have the summer break! Although at least we will all grow quite hungry for more racing, so when it's back it will be that much better, even at the pretty boring Indianapolis (although last year's race really surprised me with how good it was, so maybe it's a bit better for bikes than cars).

adamp93 · Jul 13, 2015

Marquez winning there is hardly surprising, he's unbeaten since 2009 and was fastest in every session by some distance. I hope he can keep it up now and start interfering with the championship.

svenhjs666 · Jul 13, 2015

adamp93
Marquez winning there is hardly surprising, he's unbeaten since 2009 and was fastest in every session by some distance. I hope he can keep it up now and start interfering with the championship.

but saddly he does it with the 2014 chassis

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same @ Assen,competing for victory but with the "old" bike.
he can do it with the new bike,he proved it at Texas and Argentina (i know,he crashed out,but VR made the better tyre choice)

Whodoyouthink · Jul 13, 2015

adamp93
Marquez winning there is hardly surprising, he's unbeaten since 2009 and was fastest in every session by some distance. I hope he can keep it up now and start interfering with the championship.

I think he still needs to win 4-5 races to get back in to the lead, right? He still is in contention, but at quite a disadvantage being so low in the points ranking. With 9 races left anything can happen really 👍.

Also, while I do follow the Facebook postings from riders and the official MotoGP page, I didn't pay close enough attention to know how damn good Marc is at the Sachsenring. And when there is no televised Free Practice or Qualifying (a shame really....but goes for WEC as well unless you count the online stream), it's a bit harder to keep track if you don't view those pages everyday.

Peasantslayer · Jul 13, 2015

Marquez is more than capable of winning the majority of the remaining races but Rossi and Lorenzo have 0 retirements between them were as Marquez has 3 already, even if he dominates the rest of the season he really can't afford to crash again.

joetruckv8 · Jul 14, 2015

Peasantslayer
It was only ever going to end in tears, Marquez should be given the win.

Rossi knew what he was going to do the whole time, that's why he rode thru the gravel so cleanly & easily, I can't believe race control allowed that ride thru the gravel. I'm a big believer of the front fender rule, but in this case at Assen Marc was well within the side of Rossi's bike when he thru down the block pass, and that win should of went to Marc. Even the women in my house who were watching the race said Marc had that 1 in the bag...

RX-7_FD3S · Jul 16, 2015

joetruckv8
Rossi knew what he was going to do the whole time, that's why he rode thru the gravel so cleanly & easily, I can't believe race control allowed that ride thru the gravel. I'm a big believer of the front fender rule, but in this case at Assen Marc was well within the side of Rossi's bike when he thru down the block pass, and that win should of went to Marc. Even the women in my house who were watching the race said Marc had that 1 in the bag...

If Rossi knew all along, Marc knew very well what he was doing as well. i can't defend one or the others because they both already pulled move like that, that are at the limit of what you can do.

For me they both did something shaddy (Marc a suicidal breaking like he's used to, pushing the other driver and Rossi knowing exactly what Marc was gonna do and planning what to do if it happen), Rossi end up on top good for him.

joetruckv8 · Jul 16, 2015

That's

RX-7_FD3S
If Rossi knew all along, Marc knew very well what he was doing as well. i can't defend one or the others because they both already pulled move like that, that are at the limit of what you can do.

For me they both did something shaddy (Marc a suicidal breaking like he's used to, pushing the other driver and Rossi knowing exactly what Marc was gonna do and planning what to do if it happen), Rossi end up on top good for him.

That's how I saw it and that's how it went down. Marc is very aggressive with his overtaking or his block passing, I just think at this point were used to knowing it's coming.

adamp93 · Jul 16, 2015

Whodoyouthink
I think he still needs to win 4-5 races to get back in to the lead, right? He still is in contention, but at quite a disadvantage being so low in the points ranking. With 9 races left anything can happen really 👍.

Even if he wins every race there's no guarantee he'll win the championship, he needs the Yamahas to share the second places, or Dani to come to the party more often.

JockeP22 · Jul 19, 2015

Just watched the Sachsenring race at motogp.com
Good showing from Pedrosa.

Does anyone else have their Videopass? It is a very nice feature.

Some screenshots;