2017 Formula 1 Pirelli Magyar NagydijFormula 1

[Betty blue]

PDR's qualy effort has less of a gap to his team mate than Palmer's.

 

[SuperDiscoDaz]

Is there any rain scheduled for tomorrow? Might put some money on an Alonso podium if there is...

I just had a look and it says no chance of rain till 8pm tomorrow

 

[Lord Kacperov]

I just had a look and it says no chance of rain till 8pm tomorrow

Ah, well that's a shame.

 

[dingodile_r89]

I have a feeling the Ferraris are going to come good, here. If all goes right, Vettel could be looking at another win.

Gut feeling

Called it.

 

[TenEightyOne]

PDR's qualy effort has less of a gap to his team mate than Palmer's.

We know that Button's a good driver but, even with the Monaco free practices, he struggled to find the limit of the McLaren Honda (at least within its own meagre performance at that time). I think that despite Di Resta being an utter cock he's pulled out a good performance in the circumstances.

 

[GroupB]

Barring mechanical retirements, the track makeup of the remaining schedule (flowing favoring Mercedes vs. twisty favoring Ferrari) is going to decide this championship.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

Belgian GP - Spa - Flowing
Italian GP - Monza - Flowing
Singapore GP - Marina Bay - Twisty
Malaysian GP - Sepang - Flowing
Japanese GP - Suzuka - Flowing?
United States GP - COTA - Mix
Mexican GP - Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez - Twisty?
Brazilian GP - Interlagos - Flowing?
Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina - Twisty?

I think it'll be in favor of Mercedes but with tire management and Ferrari always working to improve it's anyone's game.

 

[daan]

It's 2017 F1 Hungarian GP, that what we need to now at first glimpse in the thread list.

Yes, that's what the thread title says. This thread has the same name as the Grand Prix, as have all the other race threads.

You don't seem to complain when the Grand Prix are titled in French, Spanish or Italian. Why should Hungarian be any different?

 

[TenEightyOne]

That thread name, whatever naming convention it follows...

"language".

 

[Milouse]

Yes, that's what the thread title says. This thread has the same name as the Grand Prix, as have all the other race threads.
You don't seem to complain when the Grand Prix are titled in French, Spanish or Italian. Why should Hungarian be any different?

I have nothing against Hungarian language, it's just a matter of both ethical and practical standpoint: who's interest came first when it comes to names: forum users, or Pirelli, Santanders, are whatever sponsor it may it be.
If a company buys or sponsored the Le Mans track and rename its official name, i bet people would still refer it as "Le Mans".

A thread name is not a trivia, even the OP stated that we're not supposed to know what the title refers to:

to those not blessed with knowledge of the Hungarian dialect, it's Hungarian Grand Prix

Unless we assume most GTP users are fluent in Hungarian.

And if the exotic name is key to you, why not specifying both local and common English name?

 

[Liquid]

We don't have a Worst Quotes thread do we?

Jolyon Palmer has set the fastest middle sector of this session, for himself so far...

Give me a break. "His personal best", the standard commentator's quip, wasn't good enough?

 

[RazorSharkz]

Yes, that's what the thread title says. This thread has the same name as the Grand Prix, as have all the other race threads.

You don't seem to complain when the Grand Prix are titled in French, Spanish or Italian. Why should Hungarian be any different?

We should title the USGP thread the Vanderbilt Cup from now on. (I'm joking)

 

[Famine]

ethical

Give over.

It's the actual name of the event. Just like all of these were:

Formula 1 Grosser Preis von Osterreich 2017

Formula 1 Grand Prix du Canada 2017

Grand Prix de Monaco 2017

2016 Formula 1 Grande Premio do Brasil

2016 Formula 1 Grand Premio de Mexico

2016 Formula 1 Großer Preis von Deutschland

Formula 1 Magyar Nagydíj 2016

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Barring mechanical retirements, the track makeup of the remaining schedule (flowing favoring Mercedes vs. twisty favoring Ferrari) is going to decide this championship.

Which championship?

 

[niky]

Belgian GP - Spa - Flowing
Italian GP - Monza - Flowing
Singapore GP - Marina Bay - Twisty
Malaysian GP - Sepang - Flowing
Japanese GP - Suzuka - Flowing?
United States GP - COTA - Mix
Mexican GP - Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez - Twisty?
Brazilian GP - Interlagos - Flowing?
Abu Dhabi GP - Yas Marina - Twisty?

I think it'll be in favor of Mercedes but with tire management and Ferrari always working to improve it's anyone's game.

I think it was mentioned that the car was designed to the average of the entire season.

The long wheelbase format suits more of the tracks in the championship, which is why Merc went for it.

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But yeah, it's anybody's game at this point, given the development race. And this is the first year in a long time where we've had a proper development race between two strong teams. (Brawn season didn't count. Brawn was not strong on development, and got lucky that their points cushion kept Jenson in the lead till the end).

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I think it was mentioned that the car was designed to the average of the entire season.

The long wheelbase format suits more of the tracks in the championship, which is why Merc went for it.

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But yeah, it's anybody's game at this point, given the development race. And this is the first year in a long time where we've had a proper development race between two strong teams. (Brawn season didn't count. Brawn was not strong on development, and got lucky that their points cushion kept Jenson in the lead till the end).

It wasn't awful in development, it exploited a loop hole that allowed for massive gains, also the packaging on the RBR was bad and caused exhaust failures cause Newey likes tidy packaging. In the end Brawn should count, if it didn't then many seasons of exploited rules or border line illegal cars shouldn't.

Though I'm guessing we're talking about the WCC, so I'd agree overall the Mercedes is more likely to win than the Ferrari, but as you said you can't safely make that call.

 

[niky]

It wasn't awful in development, it exploited a loop hole that allowed for massive gains, also the packaging on the RBR was bad and caused exhaust failures cause Newey likes tidy packaging. In the end Brawn should count, if it didn't then many seasons of exploited rules or border line illegal cars shouldn't.

Though I'm guessing we're talking about the WCC, so I'd agree overall the Mercedes is more likely to win than the Ferrari, but as you said you can't safely make that call.

Either way... Brawn was not a powerful outfit, and couldn't outdevelop RBR or McLaren, so they were fighting for scraps by the end. Not awful, but certainly not pack-leading.

The Mercedes team built around Brawn nowadays can respond and develop well. And Ferrari finally seems to be able to do this kind of work again.

Be interesting next year to see how Red Bull responds, and if McLaren can keep improving at this pace into next season. 2018 might just be a great year.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

And Haas is always making improvements. If they can get their reliability under control and be able to put time into other things, they can be top of the mid-field.

 

[desmodan]

I think it was mentioned that the car was designed to the average of the entire season.

The long wheelbase format suits more of the tracks in the championship, which is why Merc went for it.[/QUOTE

 

[desmodan]

Sorry . I really need to work on my typing skills .

That's the point exactly . Any car , road or race , is a compromise .
Drag vs downforce . Power vs reliability . Straightline stability vs cornering ability . The list is endless .
Any team that concentrates on just one aspect will struggle over the season , whereas those who build a car that performs to 95% across the board is far more likely to be successful .

 

[daan]

I have nothing against Hungarian language, it's just a matter of both ethical and practical standpoint: who's interest came first when it comes to names: forum users, or Pirelli, Santanders, are whatever sponsor it may it be.
If a company buys or sponsored the Le Mans track and rename its official name, i bet people would still refer it as "Le Mans".

A thread name is not a trivia, even the OP stated that we're not supposed to know what the title refers to:

Unless we assume most GTP users are fluent in Hungarian.

And if the exotic name is key to you, why not specifying both local and common English name?

There has been an Hungarian Grand Prix since 1986. When it started it was known as the Hungarian Grand Prix. However, (according to Autocourse) it has been known as the Magyar Nagydij since 1989. It's not a new thing and you don't have to be fluent in Hungarian to know that. I'm pretty sure I only know 2 Hungarian words and they are Magyar and Nagydij.

What part of Grand Prix du Canada is English? What about Grande Premio do Brasil? We don't post them in English, so why post this one in English when its official name isn't in English?

 

[desmodan]

Maybe if some of these people got out of the house more often they'd realise there's more to life than bitching about how people are different .

 

[Lord Kacperov]

Maybe if some of these people got out of the house more often they'd realise there's more to life than bitching about how people are different .

I agree with you.

But here at GTPlanet, you need to watch your language though. I don't have a problem with people swearing, but the mods will.

 

[desmodan]

Good point . Sorry all .
I must remember to tame my potty mouth .

 

[SuperDiscoDaz]

Ferrari have had to look at Vettel's gearbox after a hydraulic issue but no change of gearbox. Could be interesting for the race

 

[Saidur_Ali]

Great job by Paul, hopefully he beats Lance today. Unlucky to be out of F1 for so long.

Ferrari looked seriously quick on this maximum downforce track. Looked like Red Bull and Mercedes drivers pushed closer to the limits of their cars, hopefully Fernando swaps with Kimi for next year...

 

[SuperDiscoDaz]

I don't know why but for some reason I think Kimi will win today and I'm expecting Kvyat to cause a crash and end up with a race ban.

 

[numbnuts70]

Great job by Paul, hopefully he beats Lance today. Unlucky to be out of F1 for so long.

Ferrari looked seriously quick on this maximum downforce track. Looked like Red Bull and Mercedes drivers pushed closer to the limits of their cars, hopefully Fernando swaps with Kimi for next year...

I think Vettel wouldn't have Alonso there, Renault or Force India are the only seats I can see him going to, dependant on what Ocon and Kubica are doing.

 

[Milouse]

@Dann and @Famine , you're missing my point, which is you should avoid ending with abstruse thread titles, it's an editorial rule of thumbs.
The "ethical" word was referring to Pirelli (i understand it's part of the official name and that you can choose to have it, it's a problem when it end by replacing the usefull information).

And i'm not complaining, that was just advice, and i won't put more energy on it.

Time for the race, anyway...

 

[Famine]

editorial

This is not the editorial section of this site. This is, and have a look at what name we use there.

The "ethical" word was referring to Pirelli (i understand it's part of the official name and that you can choose to have it, it's a problem when it end by replacing the usefull information).

What "useful information" is the word 'Pirelli' replacing?

ethical

Give over.