2017 General WEC/ELMS/AsLMS Discussion ThreadSports Cars

[Snaeper]

But how? GTE-Am is just a customer class anyways. It works in IMSA to have GTE and GT3 doesn't it? The Am class has only 5 cars next year. 5. Pro has 9 potentially, and at Le Mans 13. Making Am teams buy factory rated cars is a bit foolish isn't it? GTE is GT1 and GT3 is GT2 (especially with the new regs), it'd actually lead to some class diversity for the first time in years.

Because then the Pro teams will ask why they are developing cars just for their own use, when Am's are buying the same or similar cars to race at a fraction of the costs. Those teams that also wish or require the sale of their machinery would be hindered (at the moment, only Ferrari I think, maybe Porsche in the future).

Eventually, the GTE class in ELMS would also go, especially if WEC GT manufacturers pull out due to the costs they're spending compared to an AM team. Which would then likely put pressure on IMSA's GTLM class, as manufacturers wonder why they're developing cars for a single series, when they could just develop and race the cars they race internationally.

Then 10 years from now, GT3 gets replaced with GT4, and so on and so forth. It's an endless, vicious cycle in GT racing.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Because then the Pro teams will ask why they are developing cars just for their own use, when Am's are buying the same or similar cars to race at a fraction of the costs. Those teams that also wish or require the sale of their machinery would be hindered (at the moment, only Ferrari I think, maybe Porsche in the future).

Eventually, the GTE class in ELMS would also go, especially if WEC GT manufacturers pull out due to the costs they're spending compared to an AM team. Which would then likely put pressure on IMSA's GTLM class, as manufacturers wonder why they're developing cars for a single series, when they could just develop and race the cars they race internationally.

Then 10 years from now, GT3 gets replaced with GT4, and so on and so forth. It's an endless, vicious cycle in GT racing.

tl;dr Same issues GTE vs GT3 had had for years, why am I paying this much for a car when their is a cheaper gt3 with the same performance numbers available.

 

[IforceV8]

Race cars that inspire with their sound, a shocking concept that some just dont get.



http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/dunlop-tire-test-kicks-off-at-sebring/

 

[catamount39]

Race cars that inspire with their sound, a shocking concept that some just dont get.



http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/dunlop-tire-test-kicks-off-at-sebring/

The hills are alive to motorsport music!

 

[TDZdave]

tl;dr Same issues GTE vs GT3 had had for years, why am I paying this much for a car when their is a cheaper gt3 with the same performance numbers available.

That plus traction control and ABS availability, makes GT3 a little more enticing to the gentleman driver,

 

[fortbo]

That plus traction control and ABS availability, makes GT3 a little more enticing to the gentleman driver,

I'm pretty sure GTE uses ABS and TC as well.

 

[IforceV8]

I'm pretty sure GTE uses ABS and TC as well.

Only TC, no ABS allowed.

 

[IforceV8]

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/lemans24/visit-florida-closing-in-on-24h-le-mans-effort/ Teaming up with Keating makes too much sense if the Ass monkey does not return to Le Mans.

 

[trustjab]

'New' Porsche 919 testing in Aragon Spain

 

[GTFan24]

 

[Kurei]

Came here to post that myself, a sad - but very sweet - sendoff IMO.

 

[fortbo]

 

[twitcher]

Porsche should start trolling out front of Ferrari and Peugeot HQs "Come back!!"

 

[RACECAR]

Cue Catamount post with Drool smiley

 

[IforceV8]

 

[RACECAR]

If I'm honest, I'm kinda glad it never was.

 

[IforceV8]

That would be a 1:46.xxx, IMSA managed a pole of 1:51.1 in 2015.

 

[dingodile_r89]

Damn, that's significant. Exciting.

 

[IforceV8]

 

[Scuderia Paul]

The 2017 Audi R18 e-tron quattro is uglier than the 2016. It is a pity it won't get to compete though.

 

[catamount39]

 

[twitcher]

Is it just me or does that model look like it's made of Lego at first glance?

 

[chrisjohnson93]

At least they have admitted that the car exists unlike the Porsche LMP-2000 car

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Is it just me or does that model look like it's made of Lego at first glance?

I thought it was a cake at first.

 

[Kingofweasles]

At least they have admitted that the car exists unlike the Porsche LMP-2000 car

While Porsche aren't exactly outgoing with acknowledging that car exists, the man that helped design it is.

It's still a shame that Audi has had to pull the plug on their programe with no private team able to continue to campaign their cars.

 

[Kingofweasles]

Double-posted for some reason.

 

[trustjab]

I have a feeling someone is going to run it. It's good for at least the next 3 seasons.

 

[IforceV8]

2017 rules have been released, and they suck. New possible entries into P1 get waivers, unlimited bodywork and testing, extra tires etc etc. http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/...eleased-pt-1-new-lmp1-factories-targeted.html

It gets worse
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/...-pt-2-tyres-testing-and-total-visibility.html

BOP failure in GTE is the tires fault and merry Xmas Porsche and Toyota, please prop up our series and improve the show by using less tires while your new competition gets as many as they want

 

[catamount39]

2017 rules have been released, and they suck. New possible entries into P1 get waivers, unlimited bodywork and testing, extra tires etc etc. http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/...eleased-pt-1-new-lmp1-factories-targeted.html

It gets worse
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/...-pt-2-tyres-testing-and-total-visibility.html

BOP failure in GTE is the tires fault and merry Xmas Porsche and Toyota, please prop up our series and improve the show by using less tires while your new competition gets as many as they want

Did they ask the France family or Bernie for advice?! 🤬 Is the FIA trying to kill out its own series?! How did the ACO agree to this?

Rebellion made the smart choice coming to America.

 

[Northstar]

2017 rules have been released, and they suck. New possible entries into P1 get waivers, unlimited bodywork and testing, extra tires etc etc. http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/...eleased-pt-1-new-lmp1-factories-targeted.html

It gets worse
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2016/...-pt-2-tyres-testing-and-total-visibility.html

BOP failure in GTE is the tires fault and merry Xmas Porsche and Toyota, please prop up our series and improve the show by using less tires while your new competition gets as many as they want

It gets even worser!

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/lmp1-privateer-trophy-set-for-hiatus/

Because the best way to save a dying sub-class is to remove whatever incentive there was to join.