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Stage 1 cancelled, possible death of spectator.
I've just seen a video of the accident (obviously won't post any links) and it looks like the spectator was not directly hit by the car (it appeared they fell from higher than the car hit) nor did the car land on him/her after the accident, hopefully this is less serious than the first rumours.

E - There was a second spectator sitting on the floor (on the outside of 2nd gear left hander), the concern is probably around him.
 
Any aero/power benefit from the LED banks on the nose of the Ford?
Probably some aero gain. Larger light pods tend to disrupt the flow of air over the front of the car. It's not as pronounced as it could be, as the front splitter is the most important aerodynamic device on the front of the car, but the effect will probably be more noticeable than in previous years, given the increased aerodynamic grip in 2017.
 
I've just seen a video of the accident (obviously won't post any links) and it looks like the spectator was not directly hit by the car (it appeared they fell from higher than the car hit) nor did the car land on him/her after the accident, hopefully this is less serious than the first rumours.

I saw the on board replay from Paddon's car right after the incident and it looked like the specator was hit by the car. I hope I'm mistaking but the spectator was motionless on the ground for quite some time.
 
I saw the on board replay from Paddon's car right after the incident and it looked like the specator was hit by the car. I hope I'm mistaking but the spectator was motionless on the ground for quite some time.
You're right, I thought there were 2 spectators involved but it looks as though it was just 1 - the 1 sitting on the floor -, sounds like the first impact was hard enough to throw him up the bank a few metres in the air, which looked as though he was falling off the bank.

Horrible crash.
 
You're right, I thought there were 2 spectators involved but it looks as though it was just 1 - the 1 sitting on the floor -, sounds like the first impact was hard enough to throw him up the bank a few metres in the air, which looked as though he was falling off the bank.

Horrible crash.

Exactly how I saw it, awful way to start the season.
 
Why do spectators insist on sitting/standing in areas that leave them vulnerable?
Time & time again we see this sort of thing happen and yet some people never learn from past experience.

When I started spectating at rallies, I was taught to NEVER stand on the outside of a corner & to always have an escape route should anything happen.

This is a very unfortunate way to start a season most of us were looking forward to.
I hope everyone is ok & that at least one person 'gets the message' from this.
 
Why do spectators insist on sitting/standing in areas that leave them vulnerable?
Overcrowding has always been a problem on some European rallies. There's footage from the 1980s - particularly in Portugal - that showed spectators packed so deep that you couldn't make out the road, and getting close enough to touch the speeding cars. Monte Carlo has had stages cancelled in the past because of the sheer volume of people trying to get into the stages, and Poland is notorious for having people all over the place.
 
From french source it was a photograph with an official accreditation (not a just a "spectator"), really often photograph will stand in very dangerous spot just to get "the" picture and ignore marshalls completly. Still who would sit 1 meter of the road on corner exit at road height, I will never understand.

He was still alive when taken in a medical helicopter but in critical conditions, Paddon was escorted out of the stage by the police. Hoping the photograph will be fine.

Next stage is not cancelled.

Not the kind of publicity wrc deserve, there wasn't any accident with spectators for years in wrc but this will probably make the news in a lot of media. The same medias that don't even adknowledge the title of a world champion like Seb Ogier. Bad news always make more money...
 
French media are now reporting one death at the scene, possibly a Belgian photographer. No official confirmation as yet.
 
Romain Deeger clio cup champion in belgium and porsche cup benelux driver was on the scene, here is a quick translation of what happened :

"We were just ten meters higher in the special stage. We had seen the guy post his Go Pro on the road and climb up one meter in the embankment, "
"We were all yelling at him not to stay there. When Paddon arrived, the car slipped, squatted before the left and tapped the slope. The guy was broke, crushed by the car before flying and dropping his head down on the road. A fireman present at the spectator's place did a cardiac massage. He had a pulse again for a minute and then nothing. Rescue took an incredible amount of time to arrive. We were one kilometer from the finish. They had to come in the direction of the stage, probably from the start. We stayed more than twenty minutes waiting for the ambulance. The guy had been dead for a long time even though the fireman told us he had to massage until the doctors arrived and not officially said he had died. We talked with John Kennard, the teammate of Paddon, and he could not get over the slowness of the rescue. It's just that. That said, it would not have changed anything for him. It is sad, especially for the rally because we will say that the new WRC are dangerous, that we returned to the era of group B, while this has nothing to do. It's just a a crash from a pilot because of an ice patch. "

Sad day for the sport
 
Sad day indeed and my condolences go out to everybody involved but we must not sweep incidents like this beneath the carpet. It has happened before and it will happen again. The media must not soften the facts out of respect, incidents like this should be made examples to educate people on the risks they are taking knowingly or otherwise. If we ignore evidence like the video footage most of us have watched tonight we either continue with these totally preventable injuries and deaths or a sport regulated to a shadow of the one we all know and love.
 
Let's also not forget that there was no official annoucement by the FIA or the Automobile Club Monte Carlo yet, false rumors can spread very quickly.
All my support to the photographer and his family.
 
I assume they mean passed away and it got lost in translation. They do say spectator and not photographer though.

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I assume they mean passed away and it got lost in translation.

Probably not given the next sentence says emergency services were to "rescue" him. Although it just sounds like a statement made very early on that doesn't confirm anything about the current situation.
 
SS2 is up and running now, the stage may have cooled down a bit more than the teams would've expected given the delay, could that cost the drivers on harder tyres (Latvala and Sordo) through not gaining enough temperature.
 
Strange how things like this happen. WRC 2017 is hailed as "The return of Group B-style cars!" or at least as near as we've been to it in a while; and what killed off Group B? Spectator deaths from bad stage organising and cars with too much power.

But this has nothing to do with the cars or the stage organisers. It was one guy squatting in a place he knew he shouldn't have been. No blame should go to the WRC - the cars are more powerful but much safer than Group B and the WRC is also very strict on where people are allowed to stand during a stage.

My sincere condolences to the man and his friends and family.

I've seen the video and it doesn't look like he's hit by the car, the car seems to startle him (justifiably) and he falls off the embankment onto the road. If it was fatal, the fall onto the road from the embankment would be the main cause, IMO.

Monte Carlo is famous for its random patches of ice. Every year somebody gets caught out and it has nothing to do with the power of the car. It's just unfortunate that this year, somebody was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
 
've seen the video and it doesn't look like he's hit by the car, the car seems to startle him (justifiably) and he falls off the embankment onto the road. If it was fatal, the fall onto the road from the embankment would be the main cause, IMO.
If you watch the video at 0.25x speed you can see what happened more clearly, the person we see falling from the bank has been pushed up there by the rear of the Hyundai, he had been sitting or crouched down near to the road half way around the turn.
 
If you watch the video at 0.25x speed you can see what happened more clearly, the person we see falling from the bank has been pushed up there by the rear of the Hyundai, he had been sitting or crouched down near to the road half way around the turn.

Ah yes, I see now. He was sitting in an even more dangerous position than I originally thought.
 
For the first competitive stage run by everybody, the 4 differents cars of the 4 different manufacturers are at the top, hope this continue like that the whole season. 👍

Love to see Hänninen showing that he can play with the top guys straight away on the first stage. Also amazing performance by Neuville.
 
Hanninen comes through the stage in 3rd!
Love to see Hänninen showing that he can play with the top guys straight away on the first stage.
I wouldn't get too carried away. This is how Kris Meeke described the stage to Autosport:
SS2 Bayons-Breziers 1 (15.83 miles)
"This is a new one. There are some hairpins just after the start of this stage and the road’s just about as wide as these cars. It’s a case of just driving the car through there, no heroics. After that you get a bit of an Ypres kind of feel about the road, there are quite a few square corners.

"The big difference between here and Ypres though is that you don’t get solid ice in the summer in Belgium! Here you come out of some corners and the road is just full ice.

"You can’t describe to anybody what the feeling is like when you are driving on slicks on ice – you’ve got absolutely nothing. There have been times in the past when I’ve come out of corners and had some boy running alongside the car taking photos of me. It’s that slow!"
It sounds like a very slow, burbling and altogether frustrating stage for the drivers because they simply cannot push.
 
I wouldn't get too carried away. This is how Kris Meeke described the stage to Autosport:

It sounds like a very slow, burbling and altogether frustrating stage for the drivers because they simply cannot push.
What about stage 1 where the slower Toyota driver was matching the pace of Paddon's Hyundai (which should be the best car in the field)? Autosport said the first half of that stage on dry asphalt would be the purest indication of pace on this rally.
 
What about stage 1 where the slower Toyota driver was matching the pace of Paddon's Hyundai (which should be the best car in the field)? Autosport said the first half of that stage on dry asphalt would be the purest indication of pace on this rally.
I wouldn't judge it on just thirty kilometres - especially when the second half of the first stage was disrupted. Looking at the times set by Neuville and Ogier, it's clear that the conditions are playing a pretty big role in the stage times. I would wait for some daylight running and warmer temperatures to get some more representative times.
 

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