2019 Porsche 911 (992)

[homeforsummer]

If you're going with red... go with red:

Nicely done. I wasn't sure about red over red, but the black dashboard on that tones it down a bit.

That said, I prefer a red interior as a contrast rather than a complement - looks great on silvers, blacks etc. With mine I went for the light grey as a neutral tone that's a bit more cheerful than a darker interior.

Meh, the 718 refresh ruined my favorite part of the Cayman. No, not the engine, but the integrated taillight/spoiler combo.

A shame too since for me the front end was a big improvement - the squared-off edges somehow looked a lot more modern and clean than the previous car.

 

[Beeblebrox237]

If you're going with red... go with red:

You call that red?

On a less silly note, I'm generally not a fan of red on red, two tone interior or not. I find the reds don't quite match up, and in general it's just a little too much for me.

Also, is it me or is the Turbo configurator showing 991.1 colours?

 

[homeforsummer]

Porsche has done that from the factory...

 

[Beeblebrox237]

Well, I suppose you're not likely to lose it in a car park.

 

[Danoff]

I love the Porsche lettering in the taillights too. It's like what they did on the 718 which looks amazing too.

That's really odd lettering. Why would they put a random website on the back of their car and give it a different perspective than the rest of the car?

 

[Darla Starch]

Well, I suppose you're not likely to lose it in a car park.

Best logic I can think of behind car color choices.

SPEAKING OF CAR CONFIGURATIONS, actually did a reasonable(ish) one for a change:

Most essential option was the high-visibility jacket.

 

[Crash]

This is how I would spec a 992.

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I don't know, I think it looks decent overall, but there are a few visual details that I'm not fond of. I'm not fond of the frunk line being lower in the bumper than the front quarter panel line, and I'm not a fan of how high the rear has gotten. That 3rd taillight, eh, probably like that to evoke the square center mounted taillights on LMP cars. I bet there probably are reasons for the first 2 things I mentioned, but I still prefer the overall look of the 991, and would have that over the 992 if given the choice.


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The light across the rear has been on 911s on and off for many years since the 70s and with the 996 generation they ended it, with the exception of the Carrera 4S. With the 991 I believe it was a Carrera 4S exclusive thing as well and the base model, RWD Carreras didn't get it.

To be more specific - the light (which is actually a reflective stripe) across the rear was exclusive for 4WD models starting with 996.

For 996, C4S only. C4 did not have the reflective strip. For 997, C4 had it for .2 only models. 991 C4 all had it.

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I'm still curious why they mounted the taillights so high, since otherwise they wouldn't have had to try and do the blackout trick with the rear bumper; but it looks better than all of the spy shots and development mules suggested it would.

Obviously I don't know for sure, but I suspect it's to keep it more level with the bumper heights of modern trucks and SUVs so it actually is a bumper.

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It bothers me that with the model designation on the back you get three different fonts right next to one another.

Looks like they updated the Carrera script font again and harked back to the original font as appeared on long hood cars for the 911.

 

[CSMDuty11]

I really don't get the complaints about the connected brakelight. and was also surprised to hear them even about the 930

 

[Kevster823]

Honestly to me the 992 looks like copy and paste of the 991 minus of couple of things that I like.

That being said, I digging it this model than the 991 Carrera’s.

 

[kikie]

If you're going with red... go with red:

No, absolutely not. I wanted to choose a "Truffle Brown" with or without Chalk stitching. But I didn't like the "Truffle Brown" steering wheel.

A red interior

 

[Nomadpt1]

Those 55kg extra will surely make a negetive impact :-S
Love the exterior... Those wide fenders

 

[kikie]

Carrera S: 205 g/kg CO2 emission combined
Carrera 4S: 206 g/kg CO2 emission combined

 

[SiriusR]

Not that much of a difference.

 

[MisterWaffles]

This is the best Carrera 4s.

 

[SiriusR]

> opens configurator
> no 992 Targa trim available

 

[Beeblebrox237]

> opens configurator
> no 992 Targa trim available

The targa has always been released well after the initial release of a new 911 model...

 

[kikie]

Porsche's Sales and Marketing boss Detlev von Platen says the carmaker could do a jacked-up 911 as a niche product.

Link

 

[SiriusR]

It better participate in rally, then.

 

[Danoff]

This is the best Carrera 4s.

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That is very similar to the one I made a page back. The main difference between what you came up with and mine is the wheels. In other words, great work.

 

[kikie]

Waaaaaw.

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For some reason, I called this interior texrex instead of Sport Tex. I have no idea why I called it @TexRex

 

[MisterWaffles]

That is very similar to the one I made a page back. The main difference between what you came up with and mine is the wheels. In other words, great work.

I see you also went with Azure Blue and a tan leather interior. A man of culture I see.

 

[Disco_Volante]

This is how I would spec a 992.
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Damn I was gonna go to the configurator and make my own 992 but I see the perfect spec has been made already...

 

[ProjectWHaT]

 

[MSZ]

I don't think it's the taillight that is making the rear end weird looking. It's all the empty real estate below the taillight that makes it very SUV like. I guess that's how they try to attract people from buying other boxy luxury SUVs.

 

[kikie]

How long do we have to wait to be able to see the new Porsche 992 in showrooms?

 

[Beeblebrox237]

How long do we have to wait to be able to see the new Porsche 992 in showrooms?

I'm sure they'll have posters in a week or two.

It sounds like it won't be until this spring.

 

[homeforsummer]

I mean... what that incredibly simplistic overlay doesn't show is that the 992 is now also two inches wider than a 991 (and that's before we see any widebody models like GT3s) as well as an inch longer, and at least 50kg heavier.

For most of the 911's existence its size and weight has been as important for the way it drives as its layout or its engine. A mid-80s 911 SC was narrower than a 924! It's always been a relatively compact car, and while the new model is hardly huge, it's frustrating to see Porsche let the 911 get fatter with each generation. I drove a 997 earlier in the year and one of the things that instantly stood out was how compact it felt. Not for lack of cabin space or anything like that, but enough to make it feel less like a grand tourer and more like a sports car.

If Mazda can make a car for twenty grand that's broadly as small and light as one it sold a quarter century ago I'm damn sure Porsche can do it for a hundred grand.

 

[VXR]

They should have just kept refining the 997 for a couple generations, like they did from the mid 70s to the 964 change. It was more than good enough to just have the styling updated to current Porsche themes.

 

[homeforsummer]

I suspect some of the engineering stuff they wanted to do resulted in that particular step up. I seem to recall at the time the engine was further forward in relation to the rear axle than it was in the 997, and certainly from having driven examples of both, I'm assuming some of it was safety-related - you sit further back in relation to the windscreen in the 991 than you do in earlier 911s, which I figure is a crash safety thing.

That said, simply increasing the size of the car does seem like the easier engineering route, rather than the right one. Don't get me wrong, the 991 is a brilliant car and I'm certain the 992 will be too, but from a size and "vibe" perspective the 991 definitely lost something from the 997 and earlier 911s. There was something quite special about sitting in what felt like a narrower cockpit and closer to the windscreen.

I suppose you can (and kinda do) get that from a Cayman these days, but that has its own problems (*cough*notenoughcylinders*cough*).

 

[VXR]

I didn't consider the safety angle, actually. As for the Cayman, I find the styling changes and the god awful new naming convention even more troubling than the engine!