2021 FIA Series Race Discussion

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To be clear, a negative BB is moving the balance forward (fronts do more braking), and a positive BB is moving the balance backward (rears do more braking), so BB+1 would be 1 click to the rear from neutral balance.

I've noticed that the front tyres wear more than the rears on this track, so be mindful of that if you do set a negative BB especially if you're in an FF because while you might gain in laptime you might end up killing your fronts and suffer for it in the second half of the race.
Yeah I had it at BB +3 even though the Aston is FR the fronts wear badly, probably the way I drive.

Anyhoo OZ in the Jag and D16, Q16 (did a bad lap should have been a bit better). So I keep clean and move up to 14th approaching the corkscrew when some idiot divebombs as I'm passing a guy who made a mistake, manage to survive and still in 14th. Last corner get pushes, 16th, first corner a mess and I just try and avoid the carnage only to get punted off at the second corner. Didn't reset so in last and over 10 secs behind 19th. I was going to quit, but I only FIA in OZ so didn't want to tank my ratings. So took it fairly easy, couple of quitters, passed a couple and idiots pitting bagged me 11th. Not going again, but could have had a decent race if it wasn't for idiots.
 
Finished 6th. P2 in the GT-R was on RS. I didn't know until it pit Lap 10. I got ahead of the mUstang about two laps earlier.
Had about 1-2 second gap to the Mustang and pit same lap as the GT-Rand switched to RS. Came out around 12th. Some other cars pit.

Even though the field was spread out, had to contend with traffic. I inadvertently side contacted the RC F into the first turn after pit exit. Took another lap to pass. Passed a Genesis and came up on the Citroen, blocking, for the last three laps.
Was catching the GT-R that lead(dropped to 5th). I was aptient with the Citroen at first. Then, the blocking in the apex was getting silly. Started placing my nose on its rear and also backing off the throttle on acceleration when I was behind it.

Last lap, I backed way off to the Corkscrew. It went a bit wide and slow. I hit the throttle to make a pass and a block. I placed it up the inside and rubbing. Between the downhill and penultimate corner, he moves over and parks the car.

I'd rather all tyres be used, than this type of sprint.
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Utter dumpster fire. Dirtiest FIA lobby I’ve ever seen. Q5, finished near the back after being pit maneuvered on lap 2 and then driven off at the second last turn when making my way back through the field.

I will be posting a video of the worst of it. Never seen anything like it.

Will have to go again.
 
Really not sure if I'm going to continue with FIA. Entered as Door 9. Q6 so happy with that. Got @ClanFever and @ShiftingGears in my lobby with some other known names. Many of the others not friendly.

Big surprise it was a mess. I was a bit sloppy as I just couldn't get my rhythm while trying to save tires. Thus began a few laps of people passing me, some with a push, and then binning it right after. Eventually I'm in p6 or so trying to hold steady when I get lag punted clean into the sand turn 1. By the time I get back on track I'm p9 and way behind. Promptly continue falling back as my tires give up. FFs ain't all that sometimes. People behind still shoving me wide, and in one case trying a Pit maneuver into the final turn by going on my outside. I save it, but lose the spot and another. Pit guy wrecks last lap so I get some justice, but ugly.

I didnt have huge speed, and apologies to @ClanFever and others I held up slightly while trying to save my tires. But if the races are going to be as dirty with the shoving and barging like this I think I'm over it in FIA. I dont like driving that super aggressively and if that's what it takes to have a decent race on these close tracks I'm out.

And PD needs to really reevaluate the merging of the regions. Lag was abysmal. I couldn't get anywhere near one car as it lagged over all 3 lanes of track constantly.

Good luck everyone else. Done and over it.
 
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Really not sure if I'm going to continue with FIA. Entered as Door 9. Q6 so happy with that. Got @ClanFever and @ShiftingGears in my lobby with some other known names. Many of the others not friendly.

Big surprise it was a mess. I was a bit sloppy as I just couldn't get my rhythm while trying to save tires. Thus began a few laps of people passing me, some with a push, and then binning it right after. Eventually I'm in p6 or so trying to hold steady when I get lag punted clean into the sand turn 1. By the time I get back on track I'm p9 and way behind. Promptly continue falling back as my tires give up. FFs ain't all that sometimes. People behind still shoving me wide, and in one case trying a Pit maneuver into the final turn by going on my outside. I save it, but lose the spot and another. Pit guy wrecks last lap so I get some justice, but ugly.

I didnt have huge speed, and apologies to @ClanFever and others I held up slightly while trying to save my tires. But if the races are going to be as dirty with the shoving and barging like this I think I'm over it in FIA. I dont like driving that super aggressively and if that's what it takes to have a decent race on these close tracks I'm out.

And PD needs to really reevaluate the merging of the regions. Lag was abysmal. I couldn't get anywhere near one car as it lagged over all 3 lanes of track constantly.

Good luck everyone else. Done and over it.
I am going to go in a later slot with a “take no prisoners” attitude. I’ve got good pace here (for my level) and I’m not going to tolerate what I just saw and let the cheaters win as a result.

If anyone tries to dive under me at the fast left hander before the corkscrew they will make sandcastles. Use me to get you around T1 or the final turn? Sandcastles.

I don’t like that this is what FIA has come to, but I have a very well developed competitive streak and I won’t be bullied by these idiots.
 
But if the races are going to be as dirty with the shoving and barging like this I think I'm over it in FIA.
I'm feeling the same about the whole game. FIA was OK when I started, but now it's just lucky getting a game where most are decent people. It makes me wonder if the idea of just one shot might not be a bad idea...but then if a front runner ruins his race he might decide to ruin it for others as well. I just can't believe that after all this time the pen/SR/DR system is just so useless, it's not bad it's totally pointless. There is no reason to try and drive clean.
Funny how I can play OZ with little to no lag issues (had 1 guy from Japan really bad that time) yet you can't play in your own region without issues. I usually see Australians and New Zealanders in the red.
 
I am going to go in a later slot with a “take no prisoners” attitude. I’ve got good pace here (for my level) and I’m not going to tolerate what I just saw and let the cheaters win as a result.

If anyone tries to dive under me at the fast left hander before the corkscrew they will make sandcastles. Use me to get you around T1 or the final turn? Sandcastles.

I don’t like that this is what FIA has come to, but I have a very well developed competitive streak and I won’t be bullied by these idiots.
You go ahead. Do what you need to. I burned a lot of that candle bright in my younger days. Dont need that garbage and stress anymore. Those willing to drive like scum to get the rewards can have them. I can bother with other stuff. I'll give a few more rounds a go before I completely give up, but not exactly focused on drilling it. The best races I've had all involved being mostly alone for a good chunk of the race. That speaks volumes.
 
Definitely had that leader who bins it so, take out anyone about to pass, in a Daily Race B today.

I'm not a fan of the different regions. At l ast with Oz/NZ only, I mainly know who I'm dealing with. When it's fresh players from other regions mixed in, stuff happens.
I've had epic races in the Daily, but these FIAs, with different regions, is nearly all out war.
 
You go ahead. Do what you need to. I burned a lot of that candle bright in my younger days. Dont need that garbage and stress anymore. Those willing to drive like scum to get the rewards can have them. I can bother with other stuff. I'll give a few more rounds a go before I completely give up, but not exactly focused on drilling it. The best races I've had all involved being mostly alone for a good chunk of the race. That speaks volumes.
I am old enough that if I was going to lose my competitive instinct it would have gone by now. I have spent a good part of my life playing relatively high level competitive sport and I find this competitive instinct bleeds into everything I do. That’s often not a great thing.

One of the reasons I have gotten so engrossed in GT Sport is that it scratches a competitive itch that my body no longer allows another outlet in winter. I still play cricket in summer to “tame the beast”. This background seems to make me less tolerant of people who make it a habit to deliberately flout the rules. In an RL sport they would have experienced enough ‘negative feedback’ to amend their attitude or leave the sport.

In the culture of my chosen RL sports I am simply considering delivering a shirtfront or a sharp bouncer.
 
Getting the hang of the tricky little bugger Alfa 4C, though Laguna being a handling track, and this being a tyre limited race definitely helps. Quali 17th, no slipstream. Climbed up to 9th by race end. Would've been 7th probably if I didn't waste so much time battling in the early stages. Saw plenty of people eat the dirt so watch your radar! Seems like everyone is getting desperate for points nearing the end of the season. No stop is definitely the way to go here, even with FFs you won't make up the pit loss.

Next 2 Manu races (Spa & Sardegna A) are both power tracks so my Alfa will just be there for participation points most likely :lol: :banghead:
 
I can see Spa being a Jag fest. I was more than surprised by how I got the lead from the Mustang. The 4WD made it a weapon. Spa is going to be much different.
 
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Utter dumpster fire. Dirtiest FIA lobby I’ve ever seen. Q5, finished near the back after being pit maneuvered on lap 2 and then driven off at the second last turn when making my way back through the field.

I will be posting a video of the worst of it. Never seen anything like it.

Will have to go again.

I always save this gif for moments like these...
 
And it’s happened again. Euro server first slot. All well when loading, lineup appears after “players getting ready” and there is no picture/video. Also can’t use left/right sticks to navigate and have to hard close the program to exit. Great way to lose DR. 🤬🤬
 
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Well, that was an interesting ride...

Went again in the 3rd slot. Both of the drivers who ruined my first slot were in the lobby. Bad qualifying laps followed by binning it at turn 2 (or 3?) and I was p19 very early.

Drove a good recovery race until I caught the “rejoin and push” driver from slot 1 (the same guy @05XR8 and I had experienced in Nations on Wednesday). Again he goes off on his own, this time he rejoins on the run to the fast left hander and as I catch him he swerves in front and blocks me. I play the long game and tuck in behind. He gets loose again through the 2nd last corner and I have him into the last turn. He stays inside and tries to block me. I just brake a touch later than him and tap his bumper.. Not a punt, but enough to push him a little bit wide. I take the right line and drive away. I finish p13.

I PM him after the race and suggest he stops driving dirty. I’m polite and he replies with some frankly lame excuses.

I enter slot 4, My new friend is in the lobby again. During warm up he PMs “truce”? I agree and tell him I have no interest in ongoing feuds. I mess up qualifying and start Q8. Into the race and I run smooth and relaxed. A couple of cars in front go off and I’m up to p6. Who should I catch up to but Mr Truce. No worries, I’m just looking to work with him. Lo and behold he goes off again(!) at turn 3 and I arrive as he’s coming back on. I try and let him pick a side to avoid contact and he swerves and then stays middle, Right in front of me?!? As I’m trying to go around him, he brakes early, and off he goes again. You wouldn’t read about it! Entirely unintentional from me, but he really didn’t leave me anywhere else to go.

I keep it neat and tidy to the end and the leader pits late to give me p4. I’m done with this one now. If you can get some clean air, the drive is enjoyable, but in low A lobbies any traffic is absolute mayhem.
 
UK was only slightly cleaner than OZ, but still a pointless waste of time. The odd time I was racing someone was fun, but too many pitters trying to barge though at the beginning or at the end. Went D9 Q6 and came P8. Clean race and I'd be in around 4th, well maybe not because these idiots slow themselves down as well as everyone else.
 
This was a good race but frustrating at times.
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First qualy lap got me provisional pole. I mucked up the corner after Rainey Curve on my second lap and could go no quicker. In the end I was pipped by a rapid Austrian in a Slophy. So P2 not bad.
It was obvious I was the only one around me to switch to hards as my warm up was longer than everyone elses. I was then shuffled backwards and then eventually spun by an ambitious move at the Corkscrew. I was now in 13th. I made a couple of positions back including a move around the outside of the Corkscrew. Then everyone came into the pits ahead of me except a Frenchman in a Cayman. I was gaining on him and eventually he mucked up his entrance to the Rahal and I got by him. Then he hits me at the last corner. Thankfully due to my braking I only go wide. This allows the Austrian back through alongside the Frenchman who now had a 2 second penalty. I got past the Frenchman when he served his penalty and tried to pull away from P3. A German in a WRX who stopped was starting to gain. Last lap and I am 0.5 seconds ahead going into the Corkscrew and the punt comes in. I make it across the gravel without a hint of spinning (thanks 4x4) and he goes past with a 2 second penalty. I just need to keep on his tail and my rightful 2nd is mine. He sulks into the pits thoroughly ashamed. (Never seen that before.) I cross the line P2 fending of P3. It turns out the WRX did a double soft stint and had a 1:02.00 penalty at the end. No need to ram someone off because of it though. Still P2 and the highest points of the season. That'll do nicely!
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I wonder if I would have held off for the win without my spin at the Corkscrew. Still not going to complain much.
 
I was absolutely sure I swapped my tyres over before the race started, and yet I started on the softs. Already jangled, I lost it coming out of the left hander before the Corkscrew, into the wall. Kinda figured maybe I should take advantage of the fact I'm already behind now to pit to hards, stupid, stupid error. Finished 17th.
 
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Victory but was so dirty at the start. Qualified 2nd and as I found out later, the only car to start on Hards. Ok yes I would be a little slower than the others but the diving and barging was ridiculous. I got a 2 second pen after getting punted into another car. Fell back into 7th. A Cayman on Softs, instead of waiting to pass on the next straight decided instead to just barge through putting me into the sand. The leading group didn’t pull away that much as they just spent the whole time fighting and barging each other. Was very satisfying watching the bargers pit, leaving me as the only no stopper and a big win margin :)

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Managed a clean quali lap which put me P7 and more importantly starting on the front straight. Survived the first lap but on lap 3 I went deep at the Corkscrew and lost a position. After that I slowly got into a rhythm but was still barely keeping up with the front pack, luckily for me there was a load of battling which kept me close and I managed to take a couple of positions from mistakes but other than that I couldn't do much more.

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A tale of two races today.

First slot qualified 4th, didn't nurse my cold tyres quite enough coming out of the hairpin and took a little trip to the sand, kept it facing the right way but dropped down to 9th, then experienced the dirtiest race I can remember!, was punted down to 18th at one point before recovering to 9th.

Second slot qualified 5th, managed to hold it together this time and was bouncing around between 4th and 6th throughout, always in touch of those in front, not managing to get away from those behind (until about lap 12), everyone was racing clean, all passes were properly done, really fun race!
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Considering that the last FIA races I did at Laguna Seca didn't go too well, I originally wasn't planning to make a serious effort for today's combo as I thought the WRX would be too ponderous and hungry on its tyres to be a contender. So count me incredibly shocked to find that I was setting regular low-1:25s during Free Practice (fastest lap being a 1:24.999) and got some encouraging pace and consistency in test lobbies. Would this be enough to finally lift the curse and land me another good points haul for this leg of Manufacturers?

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Met @NekoPufferPPP once more in what was one of the most varied Gr.4 grids I've seen in a while. Qualified 7th with a 1:26.567 behind a Ferrari and two Toyotas (best in testing was a 1:26.362). Podium rostrum was locked out by a Scirocco, TT Cup and Scirocco respectively. Think I could've saved more time had I not gone in too deep at Turn 11, though I'm not sure whether or not this would've got me anywhere near the 1:27.8 and 1:28s set by the top three starters.

Followed most of the grid in seeing through a no-stop on Hards; I say 'most of' because, as I was about to discover shortly, the German Viper starting in 16th initially went out on Softs. My objectives were simple; stay clean, look after the tyres and keep out of the sand as much as possible. Spent the first few laps shadowing the Ferrari, while the Greek Toyota (grey) fought past his Portuguese teammate (stock livery) in his bid to fight the FWD runners. The Corvette starting behind dropped off fairly quickly and was eventually overtaken by the Porsche as he served a track limits penalty. At Turn 4, on Lap 4, the Portuguese Toyota and the Ferrari drop all four wheels into the sand, giving me 6th as the Ferrari recovered from a resulting half-spin.

Two laps later, we see the Greek driver literally fighting the Monster Energy Scirocco for 3rd, the Scirocco having already worn his front tyres harder than most of us. His desperation to hang onto whatever place he was in was clear to see; upon being passed up the hill by the Portuguese Toyota, he proceeded to force his way back through as they went side-by-side through the Corkscrew. With the Toyota compromised, I slipped up the inside of Turn 10 to take 5th, looking to capitalise on the Scirocco's troubles with my healthier tyres and 4WD thrust. This was, of course, without reckoning the German Viper, who by the end of the first sector had fought his way through to 6th.

Sure enough, the Viper sticks his bonnet in at Turn 5 which, coupled with my wider line, sets me back a couple of places. Not to worry, though, as the Scirocco completely loses it coming out of Rahal and I squeak past him just before the Corkscrew. The Scirocco is having none of it, however. After tapping me once under braking he proceeds to shut the door on me; turns out that the Scirocco cut across front of the Ferrari upon rejoining the track, leading to contact which pushed the Scirocco forward. I eventually slipped past the Scirocco as he ran wide through Turn 10; his tyre struggles and squabble with the pack behind were enough to let me pull clear.

Tyre management by the half-way stage was excellent, with the WRX setting a consistent string of high-1:28s and 1:29.0s in cleaner air. Regained 5th on Lap 9 by virtue of the Viper pitting and later retiring after binning it in the Turn 11 gravel. From that point on, it was a case of reeling in and pressuring the Portuguese Toyota again on better tyres. I was careful not to wear my own tyres down too much in the process, and my patience paid off on Lap 15 when the Toyota almost lost it upon touching the sand at Rahal. Sailed through to 4th as a result and proceeded to reduce the gap behind the other Scirocco from around 4.1 to around 1.8 seconds even with an early upshift over the line. Not enough to challenge for the last podium spot, but enough to tell me that the WRX finished the stronger car.

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The curse has been lifted. I finally got a good result around Laguna Seca in a car which felt like it was designed for it! The stop-start nature of the track plays extremely well to the strengths of the 4WD system and turbo boxer engine, while consistency was top-notch with only a few minor touches of the sand and Turn 11 dirt. Given that my fastest total time in testing undercut that of the winning Toyota by a few tenths, I genuinely think I would've had the pace to potentially win or at least challenge for podiums. That being said, I'm still delighted with how the race worked out as it happened.

Good to see NekoPuffer again, too, and glad to know he got some consistency with how unforgiving this circuit can be with its sand traps. :cheers:
 
Does anyone know what time the last slot in the EMEA region is? I'm out at the moment and not sure if I'll get back in time for the last slot depending what time that is...
 
Does anyone know what time the last slot in the EMEA region is? I'm out at the moment and not sure if I'll get back in time for the last slot depending what time that is...
It starts in 30 minutes, 21:20 CEST.

My races tonight went to hell :lol:

So-so qual in the first race landing me a P9, made a mistake on lap 8 on the run up to the corkscrew which dropped me back to P13 and boy was it scruffy back there. Managed a P11 in the end, and decided to go for a second run.

Almost impossibly I managed an even *worse* quali and started P19, went to take a leak before the race started and came back to see that I had forgotten to change from softs to hards :lol: So commence project recovery! I drove like a maniac for 12 laps and pitted from P4 and came out P17 which was DFL at that point. Took two positions to finish P15. No worthwhile points and a fair amount of DR lost.

I knew I should've left it alone tonight :cheers:
 
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