2021 FIA Series Race Discussion

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Seems like a good day to bring this back - Good luck out there!

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Lets ave ittttttt
 
Well I've made a decision, doing 2 races per region and if too many suck I'm deleting this thing. There has always been too many bad games due to idiots/cheaters, but before you would always get at least 1 good game in a session.
1st race, I'm not that great so qualify 6th. After the initial bumping I'm 5th and comfortable with my pace and fuel saving. Bumped back several times and not happy, but close enough to the front to beat any pitters. That didn't last and only 1 guy in front of me didn't pit yet I came 9th. So in a clean race I would have been fighting for 1st and in this joke world I'm 9th. 1 of 6 and going as expected.

Race 2 sucked, but mostly me and the 650 can't fuel save enough, had 1 idiot but will give it a pass. I quit doesn't help this is a fairly sucky race.
 
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One and done. Terrible race, terrible lobby. Rather unfortunate cause this is one of my favourite combos.

Push to pass seemed to be the standard. Q2, finished P8.

140 or so points. (Not going to count)
+200 DR
-12 SR (Don't know how I got a red S, when I was punted off the road a few times)

Complete waste of time. Good luck to those yet to run. Reckon if this is where the driving standards are at, I'm probably done for the season on this account.
 
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One-and-done. I can't see much benefit in going again.

The shortshifting required to no-stop the Hyundai absolutely kills its power. It just has no oomph at the bottom of the rev range. It was one thing doing it in private lobbies/offline, but in the actual race? Oof. I found whilst practicing that some very light lifting and coasting into turns 1 and 4 helped make the fuel last but it just got me punted a couple of times in the race. The people who didn't get the memo about the length of the pitstop and went with a 1-stop just cause too much disruption as well.

The "highlight" (if you want to call it that...) of the race from my perspective was at the start of lap 7 when the Subaru in P4 (carrying a 1s penalty) was too far to the right going towards the Senna S, touching the grass and braking sideways before rejoining onto the racing line right in front of me and halting my momentum. That was really frustrating because it broke the slipstream train leaving me at the complete mercy of the Aston Martin behind.

Qualified P7, ended P8 for 161 points and a clean race bonus. The points won't count but if I can score 161 points in a race and have it not count towards my season with 2 rounds to go, it's been an absurdly good season by my standards. :)



Sidenote - Bonus shoutout to whoever rang my doorbell mid-race as well and had me shouting "Sorry, I can't come to the door right now!" and "I CAN'T COME TO THE DOOR RIGHT NOW!" too. :rolleyes:
 
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Thought I’d give it a go even though I knew I wasn’t quick here with the SLS. Needed to finish 7th or higher to improve my score so was a big ask. Qualified 14th so was expecting my worst result of the season :lol:

Instead, made my way up through the field and was in 8th by half way. Coming out of the hairpin in the middle, a Corvete in front had a really poor exit, I went past his slow car into 7th but for some reason he decided he hated being overtaken and purposely pushed me off at the next corner and I got pinballed back through the field to 12th. Had to do all the hard work again to get back to finish 7th, behind the ‘pusher’ in the Corvette. Improved my overall score by 4 points :lol: Definitely not doing that race again, perhaps ever!:lol:
 
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Feel like we've done Interlagos to death lately and if I remember it started with a Gr.4 daily race? Though I may be mistaken.

Very pleased with the qualy to start in 5th for this one, around my practice time pace which was about 2 seconds off the top 10 times, a symptom of how many times I've lapped this track over the last few weeks I imagine as I'm typically 3 or 4 off on my best day.

After some shoving around in lap 1 things opened up pretty nicely for me, looked to be riding a 5th place home without too much drama before putting it off into the grass on the last turn with 3 laps to go and ending up 8th. I thought about going again but my practice times were getting slower and to be honest I think I've just had enough of this track for a while so I'll grab the top 10 and call it a day.

I managed to avoid much of the trouble I'm seeing others report, aside from one guy using me as a wall to get around one of those middle sector turns who had the gall to complain about my not driving fairly for nudging him off in turn 1 after the fact. Some people...

Stay safe out there!
 
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Instead, made my way up through the field and was in 8th by half way. Coming out of the hairpin in the middle, a Corvete in front had a really poor exit, I went passed his slow car into 7th but for some reason he decided he hated being overtaken and purposely pushed me off at the next corner and I got pinballed back through the field to 12th. Had to do all the hard work again to get back to finish 7th, behind the ‘pusher’ in the Corvette. Improved my overall score by 4 points :lol: Definitely not doing that race again, perhaps ever!:lol:
Just in case our back to back posts look sus, um, this was not me :lol:
 
Jumped in to race A to recover some SR.

+4 SR
-1000 DR

And... yup, I went again, hoping for a clean race, irregardless of points to get myself back to SR99 (Not keen on the dailies, so figured it was the best was to recover SR)

Q2, Didn't survive Turn 1, lap 1. Pretty obvious punt by the guy in P3. Eventually got back on track in P8. Keen to see out the race. Keep it clean and recover SR.

Ran most of it in P8, till the first two cars went in to the pits, don't know what happened to the car in front of me, maybe the TV went off, he went straight in to the barrier at turn 1.

Up to P5.

Finished there.

SR Back to 99
DR back to 44k
+174 points.

Done for the season on this account. Good luck everyone running.
 
Hmm, this didn't quite go to plan. The straights didn't suit my car and whilst I was better in sector two it wasn't enough to beat the uphill grunt required. Add to that fuel saving and it's not a good mix.

Qualified 15th. First lap was largely clean. I decided to just get through it and see where I laid before fuel saving. I pretty much stayed here as I was overtaken but passed a spinner. The overtaker however just barged me wide at Bico do Pato so I wasn't very happy. I was then shortshifting from then on. It looked like I was doing o.k. with it but sometimes the fuel went down erratically. Some laps barely any was used, other laps a lot was used and they were similar laps too. My bargy friend managed to get a penalty and I went back ahead. They got close to me again into Juncao but were still far enough back plus the easier pass on the pit straight was open. I turned in and bang they were there flying into the apex uninvited. They stayed there and pitted me up the hill. For once I held the slide across the grass and as I swung around I clonked head on into the end of the barrier. I limped back onto the track with heavy damage and was some 8 seconds back in DFL. It only took a lap to catch back up with some slow moving cars who must also have been fuel saving. By this time people started to pit so we gained positions hand over fist. I looked at the fuel and saw that it was going to be close so decided to start changing fuel mix alongside shortshifting. This allowed the pitters to catch back up and pass, sometimes agressively because they are blind and cannot see that they will have an easy pass on a fuel saver out of the corner. With 2 laps to go I was suddenly alarmed that I had just about 1 lap of fuel left. The last 2 laps would have to be done with map 6. :eek:
I crossed the line for the last lap with 0.6 laps left. However the erraticness caught up and I ran out of fuel at the crest of the pit straight and coasted home in P14.
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Luckily I had a 7 second gap to the car behind and I still had 2 seconds when I crossed the line. I don't know how.
Without the stupid WRX who pushed me off I may have threatened the top 10. Also I need to practice better and learn some better fuel saving techniques.
Still I gained 1 place and finished ahead of the initial group I was battling. So it wasn't all bad.
Also the car who sent me off didn't finish. I guess he was the victim of his own aggressiveness.
 
So I woke up this morning, grabbed a nice cup of tea and sat down ready to do more practice for today. Now for those in the tech-know, and as a principal systems administrator, I got a phone call: CVE-2021-44228 - need to take over from the night shift. There goes my weekend.

Not doing the group 2 at Catalunya because A) I suck in the group 2s and B) I suck at Catalunya. Bring on Miyabi for my first race in 2 weeks plox.
 
FIA Gran Turismo Championship
2021 Manufacturers Cup - Season 2 - Round 8
Interlagos // Gr.4


Not my best track. The Cayman doesn't seem particularly optimal for the track either. But a fuel save race gave me a little hope going in tonight. Also had to hope power stayed on as there is a massive wind storm going on all day.

Qualified just ok, but was surprised to see my time only good enough to match my door number... 16th. Oh well. Wasn't thinking of anything better than top-10 tonight.

Struggled all race, to keep up, despite running at 3 on the fuel map, which is what I needed to do to finish without running out of fuel. I guess everyone else is changing the mix within each lap, and I just wasn't up for that. But it must be faster.

Had a minor squabble with a known sometimes-trouble-maker, but I have to admit that I sort of left the door open. It's just frustrating when you are running clean lines, and a guy is swerving and diving and a mess, so that he's occasionally faster in spots, but then you get doored for position, which costs you 3 spots... and then he says you were 'off the pace'. Um, I passed you twice already, I avoided contact when you lost the rear on entry at least three times, and overcame a 1.5sec track limits penalty (because I was behind a fishtailing driver like you)... but "I'm off the pace". OK. It was actually pretty fun racing, for the most part. So I'm not really upset about it.

And looking at the results, there wasn't a ton of movement overall through the field, so gaining 4 spots, nearly 6, wasn't a terrible result. My pace at that track will never leave me in a position to run up front.

Ran out of fuel at the line, in 12th, which at this track was good enough to call it a night. I'm committed to one-and-done racing in the name of discretion, anyway. It's been a pretty fun season, overall.

#16 / Q16 / R12 / -200 DR / 116 (throwaway) FIA points and some fun battles regardless

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Back to FIA after a few weeks. Well, I actually did the Maggiore reverse race a couple of weeks ago which I didn't post about, where I had absolutely no pace with the Jag and ended up 15th on top split...

Americas Slot 2, door #19 on a 275-points 2nd split lobby. Qualified P8, 3 tenths off pole. PB would have only gained me 1 or 2 places.

Had done a little bit of fuel saving practice, the Jag is not particularly a great car to fuel save, but tried to do the best I could. Short shifting, trying to make good use of slipstream and using fuel map 3 on the twisty sector, I did manage to save enough fuel to just get to the end without going backwards.

A guy who made a mistake repassed me aggressively, almost had to get out of his way to avoid a colission. Other than that, clean race, built a 4-5 sec gap to the guys behind so I was able to concentrate on the fuel and not the guys behind.

Unfortunately, I eventually lost the slipstream and didn't manage to save enough fuel to attack the guys ahead at the end, ended just a second behind the group ahead. But still, a solid P7 at the end and scoring 206 points, which is honestly more than I expected here! :)

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Dredge’s Alt Adventures: Episode 11

My Canadian friend has had zero time to practice this week and so was going in cold in the WRX. Starting at 18854/99 in a 99 point lobby.

Qualifying was another strange one. I am still flummoxed by the people who think qualifying is about beating the cars just in front or behind them. On my first flyer I got blocked at the double left by a Cayman who ran wide, got a penalty and then jumped straight back on to the racing line at half speed. My second lap was relatively clear and logged a low 39 for pole.

Lap 1 and I wasn’t sure if fuel in the WRX so used some aggressive short shifting and let P2 go by to get the slip. We then put a couple of seconds on the rest of the field over the next 3 laps. On lap 4 the one stoppers arrived and one of them simply pushed to pass everyone in his way. I watched on as he and p1 got tangled up in a full throttle battle for the next 3 laps. By this time I had dropped to p7 but the fuel and tyre situation was good. On lap 7 the pit stops started and by the end of lap 9 I was back to p1 with a one second lead on a Corvette in P2 who was also playing the smart game and no stopping.

The rest of the race went without incident and on lap 15 I had enough fuel to open it up a bit and turn a 2 second gap into a 5 second gap, and that’s where it stayed. 99 points and 20368/99.
 
Sounds like me not doing the FIA race was a good thing, just felt that not only was I not skill enough to make fuel while being quick but this race was gonna attract "those" drivers.

What I am looking forward to is GR.2 at Catalunya for Nations Cup, a combo I always manage to do well with. Tuning is gonna throw me a curve ball so I actually have to get over my "All I do is make everything worse" mood if I want to take part. Thankfully, Medium and Softs are a thing so strategy is also a thing.
 
FIA Gran Turismo Championship
2021 Manufacturers Cup - Season 2 - Round 8
Interlagos // Gr.4


Well, I put in some time because Interlagos is a good track for A LOT of Brazilians...and there would be plenty tonight. Got my time trial in to the 1:37s and learned to drive in the slip in some practice lobbies. I was determined to break the bad luck streak.

Lobby opens and I'm door number 13 in 2nd split, just about where I like to be. Had my qualy interrupted but I made the most of it and qualified p6. From that point forward it was goal "No Mistakes." After a nearly perfect race (did make one small error on lap 1 turn 1), I capitalized on others mistakes and managed to pick up two spots and finished with my highest haul of the year, 262 points. Snagged 1100 DR as well. Ended the night early with a smile on my face. Then I took the family out for dinner!! LOL.

 
Been a while since I've been here...life, you know. Have missed a bunch of FIA races this season, but recently I made time to do a few because they were too good to miss. The "green hell" is always heaven for me, and with a P2 in manu a while back, a win and some podiums in the c races there, and a hard fought 3rd in the Mazda at la Sarthe last week, I'm back to DR-A.
Entered the race yesterday in my Aston. I hate fuel races because I always end up screwing up while playing with the mix. Actually did some testing and found out that by extreme short shifting (barely lighting the first bars of the shift bar) I could make the distance. The Aston like to be shifted early anyway, and I was only loosing 2 to 3 mph by start finish over my best drive with full power. Managed a p3 start position, and got away clean with the leaders. Stayed close for the draft, but around lap 5 I saw the leader was pulling a gap, so I made a move into t4 and started reeling in the Nissan in 1st. Got in the tow, and was settled, looking for my first FIA win, when out of nowhere a Lancer knocks me wide in T1, and I loose the draft on L12 or 13. I followed him the rest of the lap, then he pitted...Thanks. I managed to run down the leader by the last lap, and was (barely) in the draft coming on to the straight. He was swerving and was following, and he faked me into a penalty by going over the line. P2 it is.
 

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So, got what I feel is a good setup and a run in one of the practice lobbies tells me that lap 11 appears to be the sweet spot for going from Mediums to Softs. Feeling pretty good about tomarrow night's race, maybe not so much the initial start because it feels like people cannot handle standing starts but otherwise feels like the familiar strategy game I've repeatedly utilized in these GR.2 combos.
 
So, got what I feel is a good setup and a run in one of the practice lobbies tells me that lap 11 appears to be the sweet spot for going from Mediums to Softs. Feeling pretty good about tomarrow night's race, maybe not so much the initial start because it feels like people cannot handle standing starts but otherwise feels like the familiar strategy game I've repeatedly utilized in these GR.2 combos
There’s no mandatory tires required so you can do 2 stints on softs instead of a medium stint if you can make that work.
 
The Horror! The Horror!
Group 2, grid start, mixed eras of cars and tuning. the final run into turn 1 until the hairpin on the back straight were absolute chaos. Cold tires, braking distances all messed up from the tuning, twitchy high powered cars and a few with the 'send it' attitude made it a challenge to survive. I made it though.

Qualified p12 in the '08 GTR. Using a slightly adjusted @Mistah_MCA tune to fit my style. Launched up to the top 10 straight off the start. Ease off into 1 as they are trying to take it 3 wide ahead, but like last week I get rammed from behind. Made a split second decision to yeet through the run off of turn 2 rather than hit someone else and exit in p4, bouncing off an ready sideways car on reentry. Then my dirty tires make me a sitting duck for turns 3 and 4 as over the rest of the lap I get bundled back down to p11.

I set about managing my tires and keeping it steady. Some minor bumps and taps here and there both given and received, but fairly clean racing. By the end of my stint I haven't dropped much time at all but others are getting slow and sloppy and I'm in p8 when I pit end of lap 9.

Exit in p10 in front of a known chaos magnet, the car I had been racing came out behind him. By the end of the lap they went from 0.8 behind to 4 seconds, never saw either again. Consistently worked on keeping my laps clean and smooth and just kept gaining. Worked my way up to p6 after a couple of cars spun off and I got a couple good battles in that I managed to win. Finish p6 with 167 points. Mental. I hate this track with a passion and didn't feel like doing this race up until about 20 minutes prior.

Hope you all get some good luck on there to help with your race as well. And get the final chicane and that back straight kink right. Nailing those most laps protected me from too many bombs into the hairpin or turn 1.

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Been doing some practice for this week's manufacturer race...another tuning race. This setup got me very close to the lead time, only 0.164s off.

Be careful on the exit in the final hairpin...the tail end likes to slip out.

[IMPORTANT EDIT] - It's a standing start. Use this gear ratio instead:

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I optimized the first two gears for a more even application of power off the start. Try not to shift down into 2nd too early in the last hairpin...(or at all, however you like)

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Been doing some practice for this week's manufacturer race...another tuning race. This setup got me very close to the lead time, only 0.164s off.

Be careful on the exit in the final hairpin...the tail end likes to slip out.

[IMPORTANT EDIT] - It's a standing start. Use this gear ratio instead:

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I optimized the first two gears for a more even application of power off the start. Try not to shift down into 2nd too early in the last hairpin...(or at all, however you like)

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So the last right-hander you use second gear? I leave third gear and restart in third gear, maybe am I wrong?
It would be nice to see the video of yours Hot lap! :)
 
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I'm liking these tuning races though I wouldn't want them to be the norm.
I set the gears with acceleration in mind and dialled down my nemesis: Understeer. Add the downforce et all and the car felt great in my hands.

Things looked promising when I grabbed P2 on the grid. I may have had pole if it weren't for closing in on 2 cars at the end of my first lap as I was only 4 hundredths off pole.
I'm actually glad I started P2 as it allowed me to stay to the inside of turn 1. Of course it is chaos. A car behind goes full Verstappen and missiles down my inside and takes out P1. More cars cut the corner and end up spinning. I come out of the corner a little bruised but still facing the right way. I'm still P2 though and it looks as if I have pace in spades over P1. I can't make the move into T4 but get a chance into T5. The car ahead lost it on braking and 4 wheel drifts. This opens up the apex for me to take it and pull away from the cars behind. By my pit stop on Lap 9 I am 12 seconds ahead. I come out in P3 but take P2 on the start finish straight next lap. P1 (Who was Q1) pits at the end of that lap. I am now back in the lead and have gained 3 more seconds over P2. I stretch it to 20 seconds by the end of the race and come home for another tuning win!
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Thankfully the distraction of the cat loudly exclaiming I feed her now didn't put me off.
Happy it was a lonely race. I could just focus on putting my laps in and keeping it on the black stuff. Chuffed. PD better not get rid of this rounds points too.
 
Not a fan of this Nations round if I'm honest. Catalunya's one of my weaker tracks as I just can't get that sector 3 chicane right, so adding tuning and setting the slipstream to weak on top of it? Eep. :crazy:

This round was basically a case of turn up and see what happens. It wasn't great, but it also wasn't an absolute disaster like Le Mans last week.

Following on from my thoughts at Big Willow, I'm still not sure about unlocking tuning. Kind of got my doubts over whether the game's physics model handles it accurately too. So far my impression of the tuning seems to be rake the car as hard as you can so you can throw the car around corners, tighten the rollbars and suspension to max and then tweak elsewhere as needed to make the car stable for your driving style. If you don't, you're going to be massively off the pace. Rinse and repeat.

I am far from an expert on tuning, but the basic understanding I picked up from the first game I played that had it (the F1 series) is that tight rollbars and suspension can help with handling but come with the trade-off of wearing the tyres faster because it increases the demands on them. Doesn't seem to be the case in GT Sport though? I tried a 9 lap test Soft stint in race conditions with the tune set to allow the car's body weight as much movement as possible and another where it was restricted as much as possible - no difference that I could see. Definitely willing (and hoping!) to be proved wrong though.

As for the race, I started P10 after setting a 1:35.135 in the Xanavi. It dominated the Motul Autechs on the row in front of me off the line so I quickly moved up a couple of places. I ran wide trying to go side-by-side through turn 7 and got a track limits penalty though, so I lost them again on the following lap.

From there it was shuffling back and forth. I scooped up 2 places on lap 17 when the two cars I was closely following served track limits penalties but then lost both of them on the final lap when I got punted at turn 1 and again on turn 4. :irked: End result, P11 for 136 points with P12 more than 12s behind.

 
I spent 3 days making a tune for the Lexus '16, had friends testdrive it and finally this morning I threw it in the bin, spent 10 minutes making a setup for the Lexus 08 and went with that.
Did one test race to see tire wear.
Went in the third slot, had door#6, but for run wide in Q and dive bombed by a guy I know can be trouble.
So I qualified as P14 in the only Lexus 08 in the field. There's a Nissan 08 and a NSX 08, the rest is -16 cars, mostly Nissan.
Start goes and I jump 3 players then focus on survival for lap 1, there's cars bumping and pushing each other everywhere but I stay alert, grab a opening and pass someone on the lap.
Then it's head down and work on consistently hitting my marks.
I stay out of trouble, even though I had to let a guy by with using indicators to show what way and place to pass.
There's a few scraped quarter panels on the last lap but nothing serious.
I finish in p7 with the highest score for the season
 
There’s no mandatory tires required so you can do 2 stints on softs instead of a medium stint if you can make that work.
That's kinda the problem that has only been confirmed with testing: I can't make that work. Doing that strategy, it still means the fuel isn't in the ideal spot for my driving to really get the most out of the car and in turn, I just get slower. The strategy I have employed multiple times always gives me the softest compound on the lowest amount of fuel towards the end and therefore over the race, I get faster and faster. So sure mandatory tires aren't a thing this week, but the Medium-to-soft strategy simply always worked the best for me even before mandatory tires became a thing.
 
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