2021 FIA Series Race Discussion

[roamingbard13]

Ran my first couple races for Ford last night.

I raced a forgettable Slot 2, with a poor qualifying time, and then getting pushed off about Lap 7 after clawing up to 10th place. A couple COD hits later had me finishing P17 for 78 points.

I went in Slot 3. Got matched with @Groundfish and @Roman_GT23 . Qualifying went much better and got a P4 start. A couple of people in front of me made some fatal mistakes, and I ended up P1 in a breakaway with a Chilean driver that I see frequently in practice and @Roman_GT23 . The Chilean and I bump drafted and swapped places a few times without really fighting, and then he took P1 and got me out of slip. I think roughly halfway through the race, it sounded like Roman had a wheel failure of some sort and he dropped back. At that point, I had a 3.5 second gap back to P3, and my goal was just to cruise as much as possible and to finish the race without any big errors. I ended up crossing the line in P2 about 5 seconds behind first and a second and a bit in front of P3.

I can’t complain about these points...this beats my previous lifetime points record by 40ish.

Hat tip to @Stencedaddy for the sick Ecoboost livery.

 

[stpatty]

I was a bit hesitant about racing at Seaside in the GT-R. It just seemed a bit sluggish compared to its rivals, and the death chicane seemed to be a hit or miss most times.

One strong qualifying, epic 4 way battle for the lead and last lap dominance later....

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I guess the lesson here is "You never know how it'll play out. Just enter the race."

This is one of the few tracks where the Gr.4 car can do well.

 

[Norrin Radd]

I’m honestly half tempted to just not do Manu anymore, it just seems kind of pointless now. You pick 2 cars, only one of which will ever be any good. Then that one good car is only good at half of its races or less, so there’s 75% of the races that aren’t even worth doing. Add in South America now and all the dodgy connections, and it’s just not worth it. I just wanna race every race, I really dislike having to skip races over a crapy car. So I think I’ll just stick to Nations from now on where it’s actually a drivers contest, not a who’s car is best at this track contest.

Yeah, having to plan your races on your manufacturer is frustrating. But it is still good fun, trying to get the best out of your car on a track that doesn't suit it (I acknowledge even though I'm an A rank driver, I'm not racing the kinda people you are, or at your level haha).
But I prefer that to nations. Seems like drivers are so much more desperate and aggressive with nation.
Add to that, personal preference, I don't enjoy racing in road cars. So limits the races I would do for nations.

More with @crusselz here, nations with these pens has just been dodgems, manu has sometimes been rough but good races are possible. Add the karts, road cars and rally to nations and got to go with manu. It would be better if they were set up to better allow strategy between cars. The one coming is going to be won by those who don't stop IMO, so FFs and most 4wd cars are really going to struggle. Just did a test run and the Aston wasn't losing that much by the end, yes it was easier to make a mistake but if you apply this to better drivers who also tend to save tyres better (many have a wheel which is an advantage for this) this is going to be by car. Now if you had full tyre choices this would mean that most cars would be competitive, good tyre guy/car runs with meds and bad tyre guy/car either runs hards or softs with a stop. Since they put in this mandatory tyre selection which doesn't suit every cars optimal run it does mean that car selection is a bigger part of winning than it should be.

So anyhoo did a no stop run and really can't see stopping working, will try but honestly any slight advantage made is going to be lost by having to overtake people possible for the second time. Maybe if your right at the front and I mean top 4 at worst you could have the chance of getting far enough in front to stop and come out in a fairly good position with slightly better tyres. If your in a high tyre wearing car this looks like a bad joke.

 

[Pigems]

In all honestly, being Gran Turismo, there should probably be a strictly road car series. GT has always been about road cars, that’s where the comes from.

But on the Manu subject, trying to run a crap car on a track the doesn’t suit it is just maddening and boring. Why bother entering a race that you don’t have a chance to finish well in? It’s just a waste of time. I like a pure drivers contest, not an artificially evened out field of cars, I could care less about having a varied grid.

 

[Norrin Radd]

In all honestly, being Gran Turismo, there should probably be a strictly road car series. GT has always been about road cars, that’s where the comes from.

But on the Manu subject, trying to run a crap car on a track the doesn’t suit it is just maddening and boring. Why bother entering a race that you don’t have a chance to finish well in? It’s just a waste of time. I like a pure drivers contest, not an artificially evened out field of cars, I could care less about having a varied grid.

Yes a competition series where everyone had the same car either over a series or different car every event would be nice, but I think that should be added rather than a replacement to this. IRL races are more often race what you bring rather than one make, but we only get one make here in dailies and then it's usually A. Will GT7 expand the racing?

 

[Pigems]

More with @crusselz here, nations with these pens has just been dodgems, manu has sometimes been rough but good races are possible. Add the karts, road cars and rally to nations and got to go with manu. It would be better if they were set up to better allow strategy between cars. The one coming is going to be won by those who don't stop IMO, so FFs and most 4wd cars are really going to struggle. Just did a test run and the Aston wasn't losing that much by the end, yes it was easier to make a mistake but if you apply this to better drivers who also tend to save tyres better (many have a wheel which is an advantage for this) this is going to be by car. Now if you had full tyre choices this would mean that most cars would be competitive, good tyre guy/car runs with meds and bad tyre guy/car either runs hards or softs with a stop. Since they put in this mandatory tyre selection which doesn't suit every cars optimal run it does mean that car selection is a bigger part of winning than it should be.

So anyhoo did a no stop run and really can't see stopping working, will try but honestly any slight advantage made is going to be lost by having to overtake people possible for the second time. Maybe if your right at the front and I mean top 4 at worst you could have the chance of getting far enough in front to stop and come out in a fairly good position with slightly better tyres. If your in a high tyre wearing car this looks like a bad joke.

That’s kind of my point though, where’s the fun in losing to someone who in an equal car, would be 10-15s behind you by race end. That’s not a good race, that’s getting knee capped before you even step onto the ice to start. It’s artificial parity, like a salary cap in sports. Your literally better off to skip the races your car sucks at, so you’re not adding to the points totals of the people with good cars, it’s pretty poor when the best race strategy for an event is to skip it.

 

[csmirnoff]

Add in South America now and all the dodgy connections, and it’s just not worth it.

Both the servers in US and Sao Pablo, Brazil appear to be used for the Americas region in Manufacturers now. Not sure if the server location is assigned randomly or whether it looks at where are most drivers from. But I've been in slots clearly on Sao Pablo servers (North Americans had 3 bars max, South Americans 4-5 bars) and other slots on US servers (where it was the opposite, South Americans on 3 bars max, North Americans on 4-5).

As a general rule, I find people on 3 bars are usually fine to race with, the game is just reflecting the higher ping to the server. With 1 or 2 bars, it starts becoming dodgy, and you can see drivers lagging all over the place.

 

[Geauxgreddy]

2021 Manu Exhibition Round 2
DTS GR4

Slot 2, 43K DR, A/S Lobby
Door 19

Slot 2 - All week I've been doing well. All I had to do was put in my avg Qualifying and the rest would be fine. Didn't happen as I wasn't warmed up for the slip stream understeer. Qualified p12 with a 1:46.9xxx. It was a bumper to bumper dive bombing race. But DTS always is, so I was ready for it. I was not ready to be pushed off track on lap 8 on turn 4. Street Justice occurred. P9 in the end. The final pace of p2 was the same as my avg practice pace. So, I went again.

Slot 3
A/S Lobby, Door 15, 43K DR
Pretty sure I was joined by @sk1719 in this one, if not, it was the first race. I decided to ditch the slip and go solo. Turned out to be wise, qualified with a 146.2xx. Only good for p4 though. Plan was to just hang out in the slip until lap 7 or so, then race. Let the mayhem happen behind me. Turn 1, the Ferrari gets all out of shape and we lose the slip and I lose a spot right away. A few laps alter, another mistake in front cost me two more spots. Grrrr. But, we eventually settled in and had a tight battle for p4.

All in all, a good night...and most importantly, had no deaths in the COD!

 

[D_Dragline]

That's just it. If starting in the top 5, with some leaders on RM, can a sprint on RS for about half distance, build enough gap, to be there at the end on fresh RM? MAybe with lighter fuel load? My test to answer that, will be on race day.

I’ve just run a test race in the F-Type. A no stop on mediums is a no-brainer. The Jag isn’t great on tyres, but I’m only lapping about 0.5 seconds slower by the last lap. I would need the softs to be at least 1.5 seconds per lap quicker to make a one stop viable. I think they’re less than a second.

The real challenges are going to be avoiding getting pit manouvered out of the final turn and managing the dive bombers into turn 1. There’s also plenty of scope for dirty driving in the left hander before the esses and on the final turn entry.

With 20 cars on such a small track, there’s no avoiding close quarters racing and bumping/punting.

 

[Norrin Radd]

I’ve just run a test race in the F-Type. A no stop on mediums is a no-brainer. The Jag isn’t great on tyres, but I’m only lapping about 0.5 seconds slower by the last lap. I would need the softs to be at least 1.5 seconds per lap quicker to make a one stop viable. I think they’re less than a second.

The real challenges are going to be avoiding getting pit manouvered out of the final turn and managing the dive bombers into turn 1. There’s also plenty of scope for dirty driving in the left hander before the esses and on the final turn entry.

With 20 cars on such a small track, there’s no avoiding close quarters racing and bumping/punting.

I did the Aston and because of my skill level the second run with the stop was always going to be faster. Saying that it was only 8 seconds better and the AIs are much easier to pass than real people. If you could do a stop and stay on softs I think it would be about the same as running meds, but as is your going to lose too much in traffic to make it up and I still needed to run about half the race on meds.

 

[Groundfish]

So I think I’ll just stick to Nations from now on

I’m gonna enter races that look fun, and I feel I am competitive and that’s it!

Yeah, having to plan your races on your manufacturer is frustrating. But it is still good fun

I think so.

Hat tip to @Stencedaddy for the sick Ecoboost livery.

I saw that in the intro! Great race! Nice point haul!

Your literally better off to skip the races your car sucks at

For me I skip the ones I suck at! Also ones my car sucks at! Life’s too short!

Both the servers in US and Sao Pablo, Brazil appear to be used for the Americas region in Manufacturers now

I think it’s a double edged sword. Thus far I’ve been matched with better drivers, but I did see an issue last night where the AMG wasn’t teleporting but maybe dropping a frame just enough to make close racing tough at best.
I’ll take the larger player pool to keep the riff raff out. Hate to say it but there’s some known riff raff close to my level and they were in my lobbies before which made it unbearable. No more!

Edit for me I race when I feel I can compete. Take Manu. I will race at Panorama of course but that’s it.
Karts...A big favorite but the track choice....Even though I love karts I may pass on that...Why not something cool like horse thief mile?
See you manufacturer guys at the Mountain! Never liked any Sardegna except the dirt!

 

[OJBrit]

I'm... not? It was made to me, and I'm pointing out that it's not a good one - FIA does give fewer points for beating worse opponents, which the English Football League doesn't do...

... yet. Don't give them any ideas either.

I dunno. When my team can stuff 3 past Swansea who are near the top of the league get played off the park by Barnsley it would sting less to know we wouldn't have gotten the points anyway.

I haven’t raced on this layout but that last corner looks like a punters dream after flying up that hill flat out!

Isn't that every corner currently?

For me I skip the ones I suck at! Also ones my car sucks at! Life’s too short!

If I did that I wouldn't be racing at all.

 

[Rotary_Pilot]

That was a disaster, and although I did end up finishing P6 in my last race, a disconnect and being punted to the back in the previous two races did drop my DR down a cliff.

I don't want to play bumper cars, but at this point at lower DR levels, there is no incentive to actually overtake in acceptable or even grey area maneuvers. Much easier to just punt, dive bomb or push someone off that is ahead or attempting an overtake.

I was side by side with a GTR on the main straight, who had a better drive out of the final corner on lap2, and used the slip to go inside. I give plenty of room through the right hander and am on the inside going into the first chicane, hold my line, keep the position, and am ahead no contact into the left hander leading to the esses, when he or she brakes late, no way they make that corner if not for me to bounce off. Semi pit maneuver and I'm drifting into the esses. Catch them back under the bridge (either they hit the wall after the COD or hit the brakes, not sure). They go inside on the defense , so I take the outside planning on the main straight, but no, immediately they start trying to bang me off the track as we approach the braking zone. I'd had enough and hit the brakes early and got inside, offering them the off track excursion the had wanted to gift me. Never saw them again, but did nearly get to P5, crossed the line just on their bumper.

It was my best result of the night but I was against slower drivers, and had I not stooped to the level of the GTR I'd likely have finished further back. Unfortunately this is one of many examples of this type of driving these last couple weeks, and I am not enjoying this at all.

Good news is I hadn't planned on karts and am on the fence for Sardegna, so a week off might be the ticket for me.

 

[Groundfish]

If I did that I wouldn't be racing at all.

To me, ever since I’ve started on this game I’ve put tons of time into areas I love and ignored areas I don’t.
But for me, in order for me to have the desire to race, not just also ran drive in a race, I have to feel confident I can compete, in these FIA races, especially since I enter once. Once.

For me that means not just knowing how to get a laptimes, but understanding how I want to race the track. I’m personally not going to enter a lot of events, because I won’t race unless I have that confidence. No offense to me but Sardegna layouts...I don’t like them...Tokyo I dislike also...
I guess for me that’s why games like Dirt Rally 2 are there for me when GTS has lackluster imo combos...

 

[OJBrit]

I get you.
For me I enjoy being in a race and you just never know what could happen. I could have won a race in an unfavourable car yesterday but luck wasn't on my side. Still had a great race. Afterall you should do things you enjoy.

 

[GTWolverine]

Last night was another frustrating night, but at least it ended on a happy note instead of a disconnect like Interlagos...
Slot 2: Messed up my first qualifying lap by missing every single apex possible, then had someone overtake me going into the 2nd hairpin on my 2nd lap and ruin that lap too. Started 18th, finished 15th.

Slot 3: Messed up both of my laps again and qualified 17th. Hit the CoD on Lap 1, but kept going hoping to pick up spots as others had issues. I only made it up to 16th by the end so I parked it and waited for the disqualification as I couldn't be bothered to care anymore.

Slot 4: Didn't screw up my qualifying, but I was just slow. Started 14th, finished 13th. I had a chance at a Top 10, but got mugged by everyone and everything at the end. I got eaten up on the straights by Aston's, and massively outbraked by everything else. The Corvette could really use that extra 1% horsepower that they took away last BoP...

Slot 5: FINALLY managed to get a good qualifying time in with a 1:46.3, which I'd been able to do easily all week, but couldn't do at all today before the final slot. This was good enough for 8th, and I only needed to gain 1 spot to get to my 200 point goal. Unfortunately I lost some spots early due to being extra cautious at the CoD and leaving too much room on the inside to avoid hitting the inside walls, which resulted in me bouncing over the curbs instead and into the outside wall on the exit. Still, it's preferable to lose 10 mph that way than to come to a dead stop and kill your engine on the inside walls... I immediately gained all of the spots that I lost back in the first chicane the following lap as they tangled and ran wide on the exit, allowing me an easy run up the inside heading into the first hairpin. From then on, I nervously tried to keep the car off the inside walls at CoD, and kept losing time there, but eventually the cars I was battling with fought too hard and allowed me to break the slipstream. 2 cars in front of me died at the CoD, and I ultimately finished 5th for 222 points as a result.

Hopefully next round I can finally put together a good result without trying EVERY. SINGLE. SLOT. Or at the very least hopefully I'll suck so bad I'll know immediately and won't waste my time on further slots.

 

[Timm Sheehan]

Yes a competition series where everyone had the same car either over a series or different car every event would be nice, but I think that should be added rather than a replacement to this. IRL races are more often race what you bring rather than one make, but we only get one make here in dailies and then it's usually A. Will GT7 expand the racing?

Same car might be a good idea and if you remember we had the Toyota Supra series last year, turn out didn't appear to be as well as expected.

 

[Groundfish]

Still had a great race. Afterall you should do things you enjoy.

Word.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Jumped into Slot 1 last night (b/s lobby, repping Jaguar). DTS is a track I’m pretty comfortable with so I hotlapped around for 10 minutes before qualifying just to make sure my braking points were still solid with Hard tires.

1st lap of qualifying I pitted out behind a guy that was clearly slower than me. I kept trying to stick a nose in so he’d get the hint to let me by so if anything...I could help him out with my slip stream. He wasn’t getting the hint so I had to muscle him outta the way on the 90 degree right at the bottom of the hill before COD. Quickly caught a slipstream for the second lap, which kinda helped me out, but kinda got in the way too.

Got to COD the second time around and I botched it, but got off waaaaay easy with only a slight brush against the exit wall. Somehow managed a 3rd in qualifying.

race starts, I get by second really quickly when he leaves the inside door wide open on the first uphill chicane. Latch onto first and follow him around for 2 laps keeping my distance (Brazilian) to see if he plays fair or not. Lap 3 I start putting a wheel in on every corner trying to pressure him into a mistake. Shoulda known that wasn’t going to happen as it’s a Brazilian driver’s SOP to swerve block you in every long straight and braking zone.

lap 4, I finally get by at the start finish after I wide-apexed’ him on the last turn and blew by him on the exit as he went defensive. Our roles reverse as he then follows me around for a lap, sticking a wheel in on me with every intent of pushing me wide at every corner. I would normally call it tough driving in his part, but since he’s Brazilian, I know it’s just a matter of time before he loses patience and blatantly punts me. 20 seconds later, he does just that at the bottom of the hill as we near the COD. Into the wall I go, he gets a 2 second penalty. I quickly recover and get right back on him as he brushes the wall on COD.

I follow him around, he serves his penalty and I give the peace sign out the window as I go by. The next two laps, we stay about 2 seconds apart, and he goes for one more dive-bomb attempt on the uphill chicane at the end of home straight. He misses, overcooks the corner and spins out.

it’s lap 9 by this point....so I watch the guys behind me to see if anyone is going to put or not. 1 guy in 5th goes in at the end of lap 9. No one else does so I assume we’re all just going to gut it out for the rest of the exhibition. By lap 11 I have a 5 second lead that’s holding. From there on out, I just concentrated on smooth lines to manage my quickly deteriorating tires, and avoiding any dumb mistakes. I brake tap going into COD just to make sure I don’t throw it away.

white flag comes out, I’m 7 seconds out front....so I relax my grip (a la Ford vs Ferrari) and stick my left hand out the window, waving at the crowd as I circulate once more on my proverbial victory lap. I take a nice wide line going into the last right hander, nail the exit and power slide into the checkers...champagne showers already on my mind.

First ever FIA win, first ever podium for that matter

Brazilian accuses me of dirty driving in the post race chat. I ask him if I can send him a friend request. I see that he’s typing a lengthy message for about 20 seconds....so I wait for the exact opportune time and exit the lobby. Not a doubt in my mind that his message just missed me, yielding all that effort he spent typing wasted.

nothing better than outsmarting a bully on and off the race course!

 

[Jwptexas]

It's definitely a challenge entering a race with a car not suited for the combo but that also makes the wins that much sweeter.

Terrible night not much worth mentioning other than some Brazilian in 20th place while I'm in 12th driving inside my car for a lap and half like I was chasing a ghost.

I was just waiting to punt or be punted didn't want to pull over and stop. First time for everything I guess!

 

[05XR8]

In all honestly, being Gran Turismo, there should probably be a strictly road car series. GT has always been about road cars, that’s where the comes from.

But on the Manu subject, trying to run a crap car on a track the doesn’t suit it is just maddening and boring. Why bother entering a race that you don’t have a chance to finish well in? It’s just a waste of time. I like a pure drivers contest, not an artificially evened out field of cars, I could care less about having a varied grid.

That's what PD have been doing. Creating races for people that prefer one make and for people that like the challenge of GT racing.

Just like the real life GT3 & GT4 races, you know the various manufacturers have their strengths and weaknesses at different tracks and conditions. The wet race coming up. We know an MR triumphs over an FR. An FR that has been strong in the past dry races, may now give someone who is in an MR, a chance to have a good result.

The same in real life, a GT4 X-Bow, just can't out accelerate a GT4 Camaro at Monza. At twisty tracks, the X-Bow has the advantage.
We saw this with the GR.4 Nations M4 vs RC F and C7 vs Cayman.

Even with road car races, players choose that META. Whether it be the F50 or 911. That's the only way a player gets to be competitive, in those type of artificial run what you brung.

The problem only seems bigger now, because we have fewer races. Didn't seem as much of a problem when we had the longer schedules. It was still a problem choosing a manufacturer, because everyone pretty much knows what to expect.

As a side, this week's Daily Race C, threw up various amounts of cars that people have used. Hasn't been a One Make in my races. Maybe it has in some regions.
Moving forward, I think my suggestion about giving players the option to choose either manufacturer car or both, frees up the player's mentality, of fretting about the one possible underperforming car.

 

[MCL1974]

I haven’t raced on this layout but that last corner looks like a punters dream after flying up that hill flat out!

it is. I was just behind you in a lobby earlier today and got punted a bit there. Cars are unstable because of the previous corners so it is a bit difficult in its approach. Fun track though! really like driving it so far. But need a lot more practice....

 

[Roman_GT23]

Ran my first couple races for Ford last night.

I raced a forgettable Slot 2, with a poor qualifying time, and then getting pushed off about Lap 7 after clawing up to 10th place. A couple COD hits later had me finishing P17 for 78 points.

I went in Slot 3. Got matched with @Groundfish and @Roman_GT23 . Qualifying went much better and got a P4 start. A couple of people in front of me made some fatal mistakes, and I ended up P1 in a breakaway with a Chilean driver that I see frequently in practice and @Roman_GT23 . The Chilean and I bump drafted and swapped places a few times without really fighting, and then he took P1 and got me out of slip. I think roughly halfway through the race, it sounded like Roman had a wheel failure of some sort and he dropped back. At that point, I had a 3.5 second gap back to P3, and my goal was just to cruise as much as possible and to finish the race without any big errors. I ended up crossing the line in P2 about 5 seconds behind first and a second and a bit in front of P3.

I can’t complain about these points...this beats my previous lifetime points record by 40ish.

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Hat tip to @Stencedaddy for the sick Ecoboost livery.

Dude I'm still swearing about it because that was my best shot at good points, especially when I spent like $2600 on this fanatec setup? R1 for me (slot 2) people left and right were just being super impatient and forcing moves instead of working together. Eventually I got bullied by someone on entry to death chicane and I paid the price. I was so fed up I rage quit -2K DR

Slot 3 - As quoted above. I was content just following Roam to catch the leader. Unfortunately I think they secretly did something to the Viper's handling characteristics so I never got a good run off exit like it used to do. Not to mention I could never really pull up to Roam's bumper to give him a push. Then with 5? laps to go I go to downshift and my wheel wouldn't register the inputs. I just nursed it to the next safest spot. Tried to turn my wheel on and off but by the time I got going I was 13th. Then final corner (so like a corner later) same thing happened. I pulled into the pits. Turned off my wheel, disconnected it from the hub, reconnected it and got going but race ruined. -1200 DR

Slot 4 - It was going good. I had teammates working with but one by one we kept hitting the death chicane. Unfortunately this put me with a Brazilian that had his race ruined by hitting the death chicane earlier and was passing people by ANY means necessary. I gave him a ton of room into T1 but he decided to just divebomb and push me into the gravel on T2. Later he made a mistake and I got back by but then into the esses he divebombed me again and tried to force me wide. I was having none of it. Then into the hairpin he was on the outside line. I broke a touch later and started to move to the inside to block the potential cut back, sure enough he dove to the inside and just punted me. Wound up spinning and fell to 17th. Typical Brazilian behavior. 🤬 -1100 DR


At this point now I'm going to have to start racing dirty because this is two weeks in a row no one is giving anyone any respect, at least around me. I'm just going to have to go by killed or be killed. There are some people I race with regularly that I know are clean and I'll give them the respect but IMO merging NA and SA is a big mistake. It's just a glorified dailies lobby now but with points.

 

[Pigems]

That's what PD have been doing. Creating races for people that prefer one make and for people that like the challenge of GT racing.

Just like the real life GT3 & GT4 races, you know the various manufacturers have their strengths and weaknesses at different tracks and conditions. The wet race coming up. We know an MR triumphs over an FR. An FR that has been strong in the past dry races, may now give someone who is in an MR, a chance to have a good result.

The same in real life, a GT4 X-Bow, just can't out accelerate a GT4 Camaro at Monza. At twisty tracks, the X-Bow has the advantage.
We saw this with the GR.4 Nations M4 vs RC F and C7 vs Cayman.

Even with road car races, players choose that META. Whether it be the F50 or 911. That's the only way a player gets to be competitive, in those type of artificial run what you brung.

The problem only seems bigger now, because we have fewer races. Didn't seem as much of a problem when we had the longer schedules. It was still a problem choosing a manufacturer, because everyone pretty much knows what to expect.

As a side, this week's Daily Race C, threw up various amounts of cars that people have used. Hasn't been a One Make in my races. Maybe it has in some regions.
Moving forward, I think my suggestion about giving players the option to choose either manufacturer car or both, frees up the player's mentality, of fretting about the one possible underperforming car.

Oh I get that’s how it is irl in GT4/3, I just don’t like it. I don’t care if the cars look different, just make them all perform the same. I don’t wanna lose because the other guys car is better, why even show up at all in that case? It’s a waste of an evening. What’s the point of a 6 race series when you only realistically have a shot in 1/2 of 6 races. It just seems silly to me.

 

[05XR8]

Oh I get that’s how it is irl in GT4/3, I just don’t like it. I don’t care if the cars look different, just make them all perform the same. I don’t wanna lose because the other guys car is better, why even show up at all in that case? It’s a waste of an evening. What’s the point of a 6 race series when you only realistically have a shot in 1/2 of 6 races. It just seems silly to me.

I think cars performed the same in GT6 online Seasonals and lobbies. Can't remember there being stand out cars, from the GT3/Dream Car choices we had.
The PP system also seemed to work for road cars.

Maybe PD will rectify in the next game.

 

[Groundfish]

The Corvette could really use that extra 1% horsepower that they took away last BoP...

Lol I felt like my shift points were all wrong a few times! The gr4 likes to rev a little...For some reason it’s just a little slow.

At this point now I'm going to have to start racing dirty because this is two weeks in a row no one is giving anyone any respect, at least around me. I'm just going to have to go by killed or be killed.

TCS. It really helps when you get around “optimistic” “racers”
Personally I enjoy the South Americans. I like how they race, mostly. It’s better to have them vs half a lobby of dirty slow NA people who have always been and will always do you for no good reason.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

TCS. It really helps when you get around “optimistic” “racers”

I was just going to write that. If the going gets tough on Sardegna, the tough gets going.. just flick the TCS to 2 and when they try to push touoff mostly they go off instead.

 

[xxPinkyKissxx]

it is. I was just behind you in a lobby earlier today and got punted a bit there. Cars are unstable because of the previous corners so it is a bit difficult in its approach. Fun track though! really like driving it so far. But need a lot more practice....

Yeah saw you were there just behind at the start. Good to see you on track. My first attempt at racing there and definitely need a lot of more practice if I’m going to enter. Need to take care of the tires more which is difficult in the Jag.

 

[MCL1974]

Yeah saw you were there just behind at the start. Good to see you on track. My first attempt at racing there and definitely need a lot of more practice if I’m going to enter. Need to take care of the tires more which is difficult in the Jag.

a big issue at this track is also drivers hitting the walls in the twisty section. Had twice that cars unghosted right in front of me after a mishap, costing me a lot of time.

think it is a shame if this race turns out to be another tyresaving drive. Would have prevered that PD would have made both soft and medium mandatory.

Saw you having a good fight in lap two, actually missed my braking point because of that because I was more busy watching your progress then the corner ahead....after that it all went downhill a bit for me. "Luckily" my wife had diner ready around lap ten so had to quit or have my diner cold.

 

[Roman_GT23]

Good to know. I'll keep that in mind for the next one.