2023-24 Formula 1 Off-Track Thread
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Red Bull: There's no issue. ...But she's suspended.
It's extremely suspect. A lack of clarification and explanation, whether it can reasonably or legally be made or not, is hurting them and only Streisanding the whole thing. This woman has been suspended so...
She's making the whole thing up?
It is true but she's violated an NDA?
It is true but Red Bull value Horner over her?
Red Bull's initial statement did nothing to placate anyone nor cool down interest in the case. This is going to get very ugly.
It's extremely suspect. A lack of clarification and explanation, whether it can reasonably or legally be made or not, is hurting them and only Streisanding the whole thing. This woman has been suspended so...
She's making the whole thing up?
It is true but she's violated an NDA?
It is true but Red Bull value Horner over her?
Red Bull's initial statement did nothing to placate anyone nor cool down interest in the case. This is going to get very ugly.
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Absolutely ridiculous decision from Red Bull. Apparently she's talking to lawyers in London to fight them, apparently with the support of the Austrian side of the company.
Red Bull suspend woman who accused Christian Horner of inappropriate behaviour
The woman who accused team principal Christian Horner of inappropriate behaviour is suspended by Red Bull.www.bbc.co.uk
Certainly one of the decisions of all time
Only thing I can think is she's the leak and that's why they've done it.. But I have a feeling we're about to see some very serious internal conflict at Red Bull play out very publicly.
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Probably because her texts got leaked immediately after redbull cleared Horner. It’s a shame retaliation and possibly losing your job is the risk of speaking out at Redbull.
This should go to a real court instead of a sham investigation.
Red Bull suspend woman who accused Christian Horner of inappropriate behaviour
The woman who accused team principal Christian Horner of inappropriate behaviour is suspended by Red Bull.www.bbc.co.uk
Certainly one of the decisions of all time
Probably because her texts got leaked immediately after redbull cleared Horner. It’s a shame retaliation and possibly losing your job is the risk of speaking out at Redbull.
This should go to a real court instead of a sham investigation.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. RBR has always been the most toxic team in racing.
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If the accuser wanted that, they could have done that from the outset, in a UK civil court with a case against Horner - instead, they elected trial by media, and attempted to cause significant disruption to the team by releasing the info one hour before sessions on a race weekend.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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I mean, you're right about Jos.
But, he does seem to hold the strings to Max & that's the most important person in RBR right now.
Max Verstappen says father Jos is 'not a liar' after Christian Horner controversy
Max Verstappen says his father is "not a liar" in the wake of his claim that the controversy around Christian Horner is "driving people apart".
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I wonder at what point is F1 going to feel oversaturated
Growing up there was only 16 races a year, each one felt special, rare
Now there's 24 races. This year's speed order is almost identical to last year's.
It might be okay. I remember when the NFL added Thursday games and people said it was going to be oversaturated but it hasn't really happened.
We'll see
Growing up there was only 16 races a year, each one felt special, rare
Now there's 24 races. This year's speed order is almost identical to last year's.
It might be okay. I remember when the NFL added Thursday games and people said it was going to be oversaturated but it hasn't really happened.
We'll see
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Travel and logistics costs are going to end up being the main limiting factor for the schedule. Every new race they add will greatly compound the teams' already huge expenses for transporting cars, crews and literal entire data centers of technology from one country to another on a weekly basis, and that's not an area where you can really cut back on cost without severely compromising on quality and safety. Eventually it'll get to the point where that's just not sustainable for anyone, both in the financial and physical sense.
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2024 is wild. And to think, all of this started after Andretti/Cadillac were denied...
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Should probably get rid of Horner, Marko, Jos. But this doesn't seem possible without loosing Max and Newey too. On the other hand how long will Newey stay with 66 years? And yes Max would be hard to loose but probably many other drivers will win WDC in this car too for a fraction of the costs of Max and without beeing such a bad marketing person for Red Bull and F1 
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Who is it that's suspending Marko?
Last year, when he said one of his very racist things (I forget which one), RB Racing failed to condemn it and both a spokesperson and Horner said he wasn't a part of RB Racing but an adviser to RB and not employed by either entity (he is, in fact, an hotelier). This was, of course, not true then either as Horner and Marko are the only directors of Red Bull Racing. Guess he just forgot.
Now a RB Racing spokesperson is repeating the same line that Marko is not part of RB Racing, even though he is, and denying knowledge of the suspension, and he's not employed by RB... so who is suspending him?
Last year, when he said one of his very racist things (I forget which one), RB Racing failed to condemn it and both a spokesperson and Horner said he wasn't a part of RB Racing but an adviser to RB and not employed by either entity (he is, in fact, an hotelier). This was, of course, not true then either as Horner and Marko are the only directors of Red Bull Racing. Guess he just forgot.
Now a RB Racing spokesperson is repeating the same line that Marko is not part of RB Racing, even though he is, and denying knowledge of the suspension, and he's not employed by RB... so who is suspending him?
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Easy solution is Horner since you keep your winning driver, talent scout & car designer (in plain terms).
Bad problem is the Thais love Horner (hence why they did not suspend him during the investigation) & they own controlling stake. The main investor was with Horner after Bahrain, iirc.
He’s already inviting Helmut to be their new Lauda. He definitely is loving this.
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I think that they're definitely on equal levels when it comes to adapting to a car as that is usually the sign of a champion. But Max has a lot more years left at peak level where Lewis is already getting old.
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