2023-24 Formula 1 Off-Track Thread

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I'm just curious as to why Michael Andretti was the problem. Now that it's just GM, things seem to be progressing all along 🤔. I just saw an F1 article able the statement on GM joining in 2026 and from reading it, it sure sounds like a done deal.
GM is more likely to pay out of their own pocket rather than rely entirely on sponsorships who might walk out if results aren't produced after the first year, and thus they can be charged whatever is demanded for the privilege of feeding the other hogs at the trough. Also they're probably more receptive to buying out a team like Audi did and thus not upsetting the status quo.
 
GM is more likely to pay out of their own pocket rather than rely entirely on sponsorships who might walk out if results aren't produced after the first year, and thus they can be charged whatever is demanded for the privilege of feeding the other hogs at the trough. Also they're probably more receptive to buying out a team like Audi did and thus not upsetting the status quo.
Funny, Andretti tried to buy out Sauber, didn't work...
 
Let the driver speculation commence. They'll obviously be talk of Sargeant returning but I don't he's good enough. Maybe they poach someone from Indy. Of the current grid most of the good ones are under contract for 2026 already, I think Russell is the only exception.
 
Let the driver speculation commence. They'll obviously be talk of Sargeant returning but I don't he's good enough. Maybe they poach someone from Indy. Of the current grid most of the good ones are under contract for 2026 already, I think Russell is the only exception.
Herta was always spoken about by Andretti.

My guess is Valterri Bottas for the experience and Colton Herta for the 'Muricans and new blood.
 
Funny, Andretti tried to buy out Sauber, didn't work...
Again, that's because Andretti was living off sponsorship money and isn't a manufacturer with a (theoretically) limitless bankroll. Both Audi and GM have deeper pockets and the ability to write off their expenses, so they're far less likely to go bust after the first season if it doesn't pan out well.
 
Again, that's because Andretti was living off sponsorship money and isn't a manufacturer with a (theoretically) limitless bankroll. Both Audi and GM have deeper pockets and the ability to write off their expenses, so they're far less likely to go bust after the first season if it doesn't pan out well.
No wonder there was so much reluctance to accept the Cadillac effort as long as Andretti was involved.
 
Andretti Cadillac F1 really turning into a Renault reunion


Not sure that's a good thing.
The Renault F1 team's lack of results doesn't mean everyone in the team was incompetent. All F1 teams, even the backmarkers, have loads of talent. But a lack of resources or mismanagement will stifle their potential.

The team's main issue was always corporate meddling from Renault Group's business side, or indifference at other times, which led to reduced budgets and resources. Rossi was the worst example of this. The team was never managed by someone with racing experience in the last 15 years, until recently when Oakes took over as TP. And Alpine has since started to look a lot better immediately.

Rob White has 2 decades of experience in F1, as well as being part of a championship winning team, that will be valuable to a team with no F1 experience. You can't build a competitive F1 team completely from scratch without anyone who's previously worked in F1. It might be better to poach top talent from the best teams, but most would probably not want to leave for a start up team.

Now all they need is Abiteboul to complete the circus.
Yeah Abiteboul is a clown, his new team has never won anything. Oh wait...

He is actually a good example of Renault's problems, he's talked about the issues he had with Renault's corporate management, and that being the reason he left. But people only care about the memes from DtS.
 

Which colour scheme is better?

Blue with white nose looks way better to me. I always associate yellow and black with Corvette racing, it doesn't really fit the Cadillac brand in my opinion.

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I'm sure there's a certain veteran driver with 12 F1 seasons under his belt who can step into the breach.
 
Full time stewards would mean salaries, benefits, paying for all accommodations, etc. The FIA are too cheap to do that.

You would think they would have a bit of money to spare when they're charging drivers 2000 euros for each point they score if they want to keep their super license for the following season.
 
Blue with white nose looks way better to me. I always associate yellow and black with Corvette racing, it doesn't really fit the Cadillac brand in my opinion.

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To be honest, i think using Corvette (and therefore yellow) rather than Cadillac is a better fit in F1. Corvette as a brand has much more kudos outside of north america, but i guess its a marketing thing with GM wanting to push the Cadillac brand into new markets.
 
To be honest, i think using Corvette (and therefore yellow) rather than Cadillac is a better fit in F1. Corvette as a brand has much more kudos outside of north america, but i guess its a marketing thing with GM wanting to push the Cadillac brand into new markets.
I think it's very similar to how for Toyota, they use Lexus branding for GT3 and Toyota for LMH. Or how Honda raced in GT3, whereas Acura is in LMDh.
 
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To be honest, i think using Corvette (and therefore yellow) rather than Cadillac is a better fit in F1. Corvette as a brand has much more kudos outside of north america, but i guess its a marketing thing with GM wanting to push the Cadillac brand into new markets.
Well, don't forget Cadillac is a luxury oriented marque which fits the opulent image of Formula 1 more. AMG, Aston Martin, Alpine, Audi, and previously Alfa Romeo (god that is too many A's) are all upscale brands that people associate with people who have money to burn. Sports car oriented Corvette branding in F1 would kinda stick out awkwardly, like Camry branding does in NASCAR now among the Mustangs and Camaros.
 
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