2024 Nissan GT-R (R36)

[CodeRedR51]

We talk about it.

 

[VXR]

Amazing to think it'll be pushing 17 when 2024 rolls around!

 

[Hayden]

I’m hoping Nissan goes all out with this, the internal combustion engine deserves an epic swan song.

 

[ZEE]

What are Nissan smoking, why 2024? By that time alot of electric sports car like the Tesla roadster and Taycan mk2 will have been on the market longer stealing there market stake and sales. Why do you do this Nissan, the GTR is an old fogey now, replace it ASAP!

Maybe introduce a 4.0litre V6 with bigger cams and strokes?

 

[05XR8]

Got the news, but waited for R1600 to post. 👍

 

[kikie]

What are Nissan smoking, why 2024?

This is probably a hypothetical question but I'm going to answer it anyway.

A study by the EU Commission is supposed to form the basis for the new exhaust emission limits. The VDA (German Association of the Automotive Industry) is already warning that the move would result in the combustion engine being phased out from 2025.

“With the introduction of the planned EU-7 standard, the EU Commission will de facto ban cars with combustion engines from 2025,” said Hildegard Müller, President of the VDA.

https://www.electrive.com/2020/11/16/vda-worried-about-the-euro-7-emissions-standard/

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

2024? Yeesh, I didn't think Nissan would reuse the same R35 again for that long.

 

[Keef]

What are Nissan smoking, why 2024?

They've got to make sure it's good. It's going to have to last another 20 years!

 

[ProjectWHaT]

More confirmation of some sort of GTR successor

Nissan performance arm primes bespoke electrified sports car | Autocar

Nismo-tuned car will arrive in UK as indirect replacement for axed Nissan GT-R

www.autocar.co.uk

Speaking to Autocar, Nissan Nismo CEO Takao Katagiri confirmed the unnamed model will be sold in the UK as well as mainland Europe and the US, following its release in the car maker’s home country of Japan. He hinted it will arrive this decade.

“[There] is a very, very important vision [in Europe] for Nissan. It’s around the heart of this [new car],” said Katagiri, adding that Nissan’s Sunderland factory also makes the UK an “essential” market for the firm.

“This region [the UK] is very, very special for us, especially [for] performance cars. So one thing I can say is please wait. We are going to introduce a very exciting model to the UK market under the Nismo brand.”

This new car is likely to be powered by a hybrid powertrain and Katagiri confirmed a “combination” of hybrid and EV models will be launched.

He added that more mainstream models will come first, though.

Nissan’s timetable for solid-state batteries gives clues to when enthusiast-oriented EVs could arrive. Research is in a relatively advanced phase and a pilot factory is due to come online in 2024. The technology is expected to be ready by 2026 and the first production cars using it should be on the road by 2028.

 

[CyborgGT]

This is probably a hypothetical question but I'm going to answer it anyway.

https://www.electrive.com/2020/11/16/vda-worried-about-the-euro-7-emissions-standard/

That article gives me the impression that it's just Germany with the 2025 goal? Looking up the EU-7 regulation, it looks like the overall EU plan is aiming for 2035, and these dates seem to always get pushed back anyway as they get closer and the plan starts looking more unrealistic. My guess is that they put an arbitrary date out there just to put the pressure on the manufacturers to change. Toyota doesn't feel that electric is the only way forward, and while I'm no expert I'm inclined to agree.

Press corner

Highlights, press releases and speeches

ec.europa.eu

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Nissan Hyper Force

Nissan unveils all-electric, high-performance Nissan Hyper Force concept at Japan Mobility Show

At the Japan Mobility Show today, Nissan Motor Co. Ltd. unveiled the Nissan Hyper Force, the resounding finale to its innovative series of five “hyper” concept vehicles.

global.nissannews.com

It’s an all-electric high-performance supercar aiming to deliver the ultimate in driving pleasure while also offering high environmental performance and comfort for daily use.

At its core is a high-output all-electric powertrain with an optimal-weight-balancing, all-solid-state battery that can produce output up to 1,000 kW with precise and rapid acceleration. Powerful downforce, an advanced form of Nissan’s e-4ORCE all-wheel control technology, and light-weight body featuring high-strength carbon promise enhanced cornering and exceptional handling on circuits and winding roads.

The exterior design, with its wide and planted proportions, is a blend of sleek curves merging seamlessly with bold geometry that reflects the performance underneath. Incorporated throughout the design are elements, such as on the front and rear lamps, that pay homage to Nissan’s high-performance cars.

The exterior achieves high aerodynamic performance, which was developed together with the NISMO racing team, generating powerful downforce. The two-tiered aerodynamic structure under the front hood provides both strong downforce and high cooling performance. Meanwhile, the dual-level* rear diffuser optimally controls airflow. The front canards, front fender flip and both ends of the rear wing feature unique active aero functionality, while a newly developed plasma actuator suppresses air detachment to maximize grip and minimize inner-wheel lift during cornering. The lightweight forged carbon wheels aid aerodynamics and brake cooling.

The concept features two driving modes, “R” (racing) and “GT” (grand touring). The graphical user interface changes color and display according to the mode, and is designed to instantly display the most needed information for the driver in line with the driving circumstances. These graphics are the result of collaboration with Polyphony Digital Inc.

 

[Keef]

 

[RandomCarGuy17]

It looks like a mix of the styling language from the stupid Tesla Cybertruck, the fanmade Nissan R36 GT-R concept, and Nissan VGT Concept.

Though I do like the gold decal on the side, sort of a nice throwback to the Skyline R30.

Which now makes me wonder if the front bumper design is inspired by the R30 Super Silhouette Race Car.

 

[Sezu]

Polyphony collaborated with Nissan once again

I demand we see this car in the November update

 

[ProjectWHaT]

In retrospect, I was probably way too optimistic putting this in the R36 thread rather than the R35 haha

 

[Tornado]

The engineering ability of the company that refused to make a manual Nismo Z because the only transmission they had that could handle more torque than a mid 80s Corvette was the slushboxes they were buying from Mercedes, combined with the UI from the company that made Gran Turismo 5's menu system.





Not since the Arna has their been a more perfect collaboration.

 

[INEEDNAWZZZ]

Is that granite on the interior door panels? I've always wanted the inside of my car to look like my kitchen counters, gee, thanks Nissan!

 

[opelman]

Omg. So beutifull. 😭

 

[CTRL Garage]

Is that granite on the interior door panels? I've always wanted the inside of my car to look like my kitchen counters, gee, thanks Nissan!

it's forged carbon fiber

 

[05XR8]

It looks like a mix of the styling language from the stupid Tesla Cybertruck, the fanmade Nissan R36 GT-R concept, and Nissan VGT Concept.

Though I do like the gold decal on the side, sort of a nice throwback to the Skyline R30.
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Which now makes me wonder if the front bumper design is inspired by the R30 Super Silhouette Race Car.
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I guess this will be the next direction for Super GT.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

That's funny, the artstation watermarks aren't showing up for me.

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Nissan GT-R reborn as 1341bhp EV with solid-state battery | Autocar

Shock Tokyo show concept previews mega-power 4WD supercar that offers "the ultimate in driving pleasure"

www.autocar.co.uk

The dramatic concept car is billed by Nissan as its “vision for a next-generation all-electric high-performance supercar”, and is one of five launched by the brand under the ‘Hyper’ banner at the returning motor show in Tokyo as it looks to preview its next-generation of electric cars.

Tantalisingly, the Hyper Force confirms Nissan’s intentions that the GT-R will have a place in its line-up in the future; Nissan plans to offer a full range of models from small EVs to performance cars, in a bid to give customers the same choice as in the combustion era - and Autocar understands it could go on sale by the end of the decade.

“We want to provide choice for customers,” said Nissan CEO Makoto Uchida when asked by Autocar why Nissan was showing so many new concepts at once.

“We’re an EV pioneer and this is what we want to do. People’s expectations change and they don’t look at vehicles as before and in their needs and lives. We’ll hear from customers what they think about them [the concepts]. This is giving a look at our future plans. All concepts, we’d like to deliver. We need the customers to agree.”

[...]

The Japanese firm plans to have its pilot plant for solid-state battery production up and running in 2024, and the batteries in mass-production by 2028. The next GT-R is earmarked for the technology and is tipped to enter production in 2028 or 2029 as a trailblazer for what solid state batteries can do and the models they allow.

Hard to tell how much of this is speculation and how much is based on their interview with the CEO, but it does sound like this Hyper Force is a look into some sort of future electric GT-R and the battery technology will be ready by 2028, which will roughly be when the next GT-R will go in to production

 

[ProjectWHaT]

 

[ProjectWHaT]

Nissan confirms the next generation GTR will come in 3 - 5 years. It'll either be a hybrid or plug-in hybrid, depending on battery technology. It'll likely use the twin turbo V6 from the Armada as it will handle emissions up to 2032.

Confirmed: Next-Gen Nissan GT-R Will Be a Hybrid, Arriving in 3-5 Years

The Nissan Americas boss exclusively tells The Drive that an all-electric Nissan GT-R can't deliver the performance it needs as a flagship sports car.

www.thedrive.com

On Wednesday, at the 2025 New York Auto Show, Senior Vice President and Chief Planning Officer for Nissan North America, Ponz Pandikuthira, exclusively told The Drive about the R36 GT-R.

Pandikuthira said Nissan built some electric prototypes for the next-gen GT-R, but “basically it’s like it would complete one lap at the Nürburgring, and then you have to recharge the car. And then that charging is going to take you a while, and it’s just not authentic.”

“You just built a thing to check that box that you have a GT-R, but it’s not really a GT-R,” Pandikuthira said. “No, electric, I don’t think you’ll deliver with the technology that we have now, or even with solid state, the kind of performance that’s expected out of a GT-R.”

Pandikuthira reiterated, as he has in the past, that a GT-R has performance targets that are required to make it authentic. Those objectives include being able to set lap records at the Nürburgring (the exec made sure to mention how the R35 GT-R once bested the Porsche 911) and lap the legendary track multiple times at speed. “Hybrid technology, EV battery technology is not there yet to deliver that kind of supercar,” the VP said.

“Even if it’s all solid state (referring to next-gen battery technology Nissan has in prototype production), you’re not going to deliver the kind of performance expected out of a GT-R,” Pandikuthira said, referring to an electric version of the icon.

Pandikuthira elaborated on the upcoming next-gen battery technology, noting that “it might be alright for other electric cars that you could do that are the cruising around need to be seen at a country club, but the ultimate raw performance GT-R as an electric car, that’s really quite a ways away.”

“We are going to have a certain level of electrification there,” Pandikuthira said. The executive said, “solid-state batteries will be the key enabler to make that happen.”

The reason is heat management and energy density.

Pandikuthira made cases for the next GT-R being either a hybrid or a plug-in hybrid. The decision isn’t locked due to the unknowns with tomorrow’s battery tech, but he likes the idea of a plug-in hybrid. With today’s tech, though, a conventional hybrid makes more sense on a track.

“Think about a plug-in hybrid (with today’s technology) and you do two or three laps of the Nürburgring and you’re running out of juice. Then that car is not really working (at full power),” Pandikuthira said. The VP added that a plug-in hybrid necessitates a lot of additional weight, due to its larger battery pack.

Which kind of hybrid the GT-R ends up being will be determined by what kind of performance solid-state batteries deliver in reality, according to Pandikuthira.

“We know thermal management is going to be really good (with solid-state batteries),” Pandikuthira said.

“If I was given an ideal, I’d like a GT-R that I could drive for say 70 miles or so on all-electric range, putzing around town,” Pandikuthira said. The executive noted this would be his architectural wish list, because it would mean the GT-R could be driven on pure electricity.

“The whole point of the GT-R is [that] this isn’t a car that you drive only on special occasions. You want to drive your kids to school, you go to the grocery store, whatever your local driving, you actually got an EV,” the VP said. Then the car could tackle hot laps at a race track, theoretically, with tomorrow’s solid-state batteries.

Pandikuthira noted that a battery for a car like that with solid-state technology would only need to be “maybe 30 kWh.”

“That allows me then to give a fire-breathing V6 twin-turbo ICE component,” Pandikuthira said, noting a plug-in hybrid would offset the gas engine thanks to the majority of a day-to-day drive cycle being performed in an EV low-emissions mode.

“So will it be turbocharged? Absolutely, yes,” Pandikuthira said.

Every production car to wear the GT-R badge in history has had six cylinders under the hood to date.

Pandikuthira noted that the twin-turbo V6 in the new 2025 Armada is built to handle emissions all the way to 2032. “It is a very clean-burning engine for what it is,” the executive said. That twin-turbo V6 under the hood of the latest Armada has a GT-R-like scavenger oil pump.

A GT-R should be able to be driven any time, anywhere, any place, even in the snow, no problem whatsoever, according to Pandikuthira.

“If I had to put a timeline out there, next three to five years for the new GT-R,” Pandikuthira said.

The timeline for the R36 GT-R aligns with Nissan’s plans for solid-state battery production, which has been shifted to about 2028.