2024 US Presidential Election Thread

[Famine]

I can't believe Actually-Homelander was found to be to be completely unelectable even after destroying his state to give himself a foundation to run.

Now let's see how much of Trump he gobbles in fealty after months of butting heads (and strange shoes).

 

[Liquid]

Now let's see how much of Trump he gobbles in fealty after months of butting heads (and strange shoes).

Did Trump insult him or his family at all? Because now he'll be sucking the guy's wotsit and pretend none of those things happened.

 

[TexRex]

[DeSantis' campaign dies]

Vaxxed?

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Well, we got ourselves a 2 horse race and Haley really has no reason to drop out.

 

[TexRex]

Heh.

 

[TheHun99]

A question to the US voters here: this is gonna be my first US presidential election where I can vote (became citizen in May 2022), thus never voted in the primaries. Can I vote for both the Democratic and GOP candidates, or just the one I'm a registered voter for?

 

[TexRex]

A question to the US voters here: this is gonna be my first US presidential election where I can vote (became citizen in May 2022), thus never voted in the primaries. Can I vote for both the Democratic and GOP candidates, or just the one I'm a registered voter for?

Depends on the state. Check your state's election website.

Edit: It looks like Pennsylvania is a closed primary state, which means you're limited by your registration status. But check for yourself to be certain.

 

[Blitz24]

A question to the US voters here: this is gonna be my first US presidential election where I can vote (became citizen in May 2022), thus never voted in the primaries. Can I vote for both the Democratic and GOP candidates, or just the one I'm a registered voter for?

I know in NJ you can only vote in the primary that you are a registered party member of.

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Depends on the state. Check your state's election website.

Edit: It looks like Pennsylvania is a closed primary state, which means you're limited by your registration status. But check for yourself to be certain.

This is going to get interesting. As far as I know, changing your party preference in states with closed primaries does not lock you into voting for that party's candidate in the GE. So with Joe Biden having already locked up the democratic nomination, are we going to see notable amounts of democratic voters change their party affiliation (particularly in blue states) to vote not-Trump in the Republican primary? It didn't seem like an effective strategy when it was a 3+ horse race, but with only 2...

 

[TexRex]

GOPer cries "election interference" over trial delay Trump asked for

Elise Stefanik whines after Alina Habba objected to continuing trial on Monday due to sick juror.

www.salon.com

Moo.

 

[Yard_Sale]

I’ve been shouting from the roof of buildings for a few years now - that if Trump is serious about ever winning an election, he needs (…and needed) to choose Tim Scott as his running mate. It makes sense from a policy, OPTICS, electability and most importantly….a “future forward” perspective for the Republican Party. FWIW, he was the only candidate I’ve ever donated to. I always wondered why the Republican Party didn’t elevate Tim Scott more on the primary campaign trail, and it became apparent when he was the first one to drop out - and that the cake was baked all along for Trump to be at the head of the ticket for popularity reasons, with Scott as his running mate for rebranding.


A Trump-DeSantis ticket would please the rednecks…but red necks have never been accused of looking at the bigger picture. Ever.

Vivek - talented speaker, but….meh. I get big Obama vibes from him

Niki Haley with her experience as UN ambassador, would be the logical choice as Secretary of State.

Chris Christie just needs to go to fat camp.




I’ll be shocked if Tim Scott isn’t named Trump’s running mate this year. If the part was looking for a female running mate, obviously Nikki Haley or Kristi Noem would be the logical choice. But I honestly don’t think the majority of the female Republican base gives a damn if a female is on the ticket or not.

From my perspective, this is a once in fifty year chance for the Republican Party to successfully rebrand themselves for the next few decades at a minimum. I’ll be curious to see how they play this.

 

[McLaren]

Vivek might as well be your evidence why Tim Scott isn't going to be Trump's running mate; his base does not like minorities.

But at a certain point in time, I think that what you would think of as racism in this country—or you can fill in the blank, sexism or any other -ism or form of discrimination—it gets to be small enough, not to be zero, but small enough that the best thing we can do is let it atrophy to irrelevance.”

One voter explained to Apoorva Ramaswamy that skeptics of her husband’s campaign “mentioned his dark skin and they think he’s Muslim.” (The Ramaswamys are in fact Hindu). The Bulwark quoted another Iowa voter as saying, “I’m not being prejudiced, guys, but I don’t like [Ramaswamy’s] name. I don’t like where he came from. After 9/11, I still harbor a lot of hard feelings.”

Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy Can’t Escape GOP Racism

The two presidential candidates are boxed in by the bigotry they deny exists.

www.thenation.com

 

[Danoff]

From my perspective, this is a once in fifty year chance for the Republican Party to successfully rebrand themselves for the next few decades at a minimum. I’ll be curious to see how they play this.

Yes - by refusing to support the only president that ever attempted to overthrow the government, and holding him accountable.

 

[TexRex]

Trumpism, man.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Vivek might as well be your evidence why Tim Scott isn't going to be Trump's running mate; his base does not like minorities.

Nikki Haley and Vivek Ramaswamy Can’t Escape GOP Racism

The two presidential candidates are boxed in by the bigotry they deny exists.

www.thenation.com

Come on man. You know thats a cherry-picked take.


Besides, I’ve discussed with you before how I think when given the opportunity, rednecks would leap at the chance to vote for a Trump-Scott ticket - just to prove that they’re not…well…red necks

 

[TexRex]

I think

Still the fundamental flaw.

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[McLaren]

Come on man. You know thats a cherry-picked take.

Lol, it references multiple instances to Vivek's wife personal interaction; she could've easily come out & swiped these away as outliers. The article even quotes how a right-wing tabloid used the old racist trope about Vivek being appointed to 7-Eleven. But, don't worry; Nikki Haley is going through it as well as multiple right-wingers mock her over being Indian.

She's Asian Indian, not Native American Indian like these MAGA morons think.


Denial is strong in the Republican party, I get it. But, the fact of the matter is, Trump's base has a large amount of racism & sexism within' it.

 

[Joey D]

From my perspective, this is a once in fifty year chance for the Republican Party to successfully rebrand themselves for the next few decades at a minimum.

It's a chance, but they're going to continue to roll out the same asinine crap that Trump infected the party with. They could rebrand themselves as pro-small government, reducing taxes, and pro-middle class, but all they're going to do is make trans people the boogeyman when they make up a tiny percentage of the population and get mad when women want reproductive healthcare. The Republican Party's current ideas are terrible and only really appeal to out-of-touch boomers who think young people are the problem, racist asshats, and billionaires who think they need welfare.

Trump has ruined the Republican Party and it will take a long time to undo his damage. And I say this as someone who used to vote Republican but wouldn't even think about voting for any of those anti-American clowns now.

 

[Famine]

Speaking of terminal density:

Fake Joe Biden robocall tells New Hampshire Democrats not to vote Tuesday

The call, an apparent imitation or digital manipulation of the president's voice, says, "Voting this Tuesday only enables the Republicans in their quest to elect Donald Trump again."

www.nbcnews.com

This is so dumb. Literally no part of it makes sufficient sense to warrant someone actually doing it...

 

[Keef]

Speaking of terminal density:

Fake Joe Biden robocall tells New Hampshire Democrats not to vote Tuesday

The call, an apparent imitation or digital manipulation of the president's voice, says, "Voting this Tuesday only enables the Republicans in their quest to elect Donald Trump again."

www.nbcnews.com

This is so dumb. Literally no part of it makes sufficient sense to warrant someone actually doing it...

It's still a felony to whoever programmed the call.

 

[TheCracker]

From my perspective, this is a once in fifty year chance for the Republican Party to successfully rebrand themselves for the next few decades at a minimum. I’ll be curious to see how they play this.

They 'successfully' rebranded themselves in the run-up to 2016 and don't appear to have any inclination to waver from this direction.

 

[UKMikey]

They 'successfully' rebranded themselves in the run-up to 2016 and don't appear to have any inclination to waver from this direction.

There's money in grifting.

 

[TheHun99]

Depends on the state. Check your state's election website.

Edit: It looks like Pennsylvania is a closed primary state, which means you're limited by your registration status. But check for yourself to be certain.

Thanks for the info, checked the PA election website and yes, it's a closed primary.

This is going to get interesting. As far as I know, changing your party preference in states with closed primaries does not lock you into voting for that party's candidate in the GE. So with Joe Biden having already locked up the democratic nomination, are we going to see notable amounts of democratic voters change their party affiliation (particularly in blue states) to vote not-Trump in the Republican primary? It didn't seem like an effective strategy when it was a 3+ horse race, but with only 2...

I wonder whether it would make sense to change to Republican for a short time. According to this poll, Trump is at 65% in PA, while Haley is barely around 14%...

 

[Joey D]

I wonder whether it would make sense to change to Republican for a short time. According to this poll, Trump is at 65% in PA, while Haley is barely around 14%...

That's what people did in Utah. A Democrat was never going to win anything in Utah, so people who were Democrats were often registered as Republicans so they could vote for the best Republican candidate in the primary.

 

[TheHun99]

That's what people did in Utah. A Democrat was never going to win anything in Utah, so people who were Democrats were often registered as Republicans so they could vote for the best Republican candidate in the primary.

I get that, just in this case I can't see a scenario where there's any chance for Haley to win the PA GOP primary - at that point going through the hassle of changing the registration is not worth it.

 

[Joey D]

I get that, just in this case I can't see a scenario where there's any chance for Haley to win the PA GOP primary - at that point going through the hassle of changing the registration is not worth it.

In Utah we could do it online in about 30 seconds. I take it it's not the same way in PA?

 

[Keef]

Still the fundamental flaw.

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Apparently it's very commonly attributed to Churchill for some reason. It's not just Twitter talking about this either...he looks like an idiot in the NYT now lol.

From my perspective, this is a once in fifty year chance for the Republican Party to successfully rebrand themselves for the next few decades at a minimum. I’ll be curious to see how they play this.

They already did rebrand. Trump did it all by himself in 2016 and the brand has remained the same since then. The Republican Party effectively doesn't exist anymore - it has completely lost control of its constituency and the candidates they choose. Trump was an accident the first time but ever since then he is the party. This is a runaway train until Trump dies, literally. He's created a cult of personality and evoked the inner asshole buried within tens of millions of Americans. The Republican Party has absolutely zero power to control what's going on here and Trump said it himself recently when he described Haley as an old-school "corporatist" Republican that nobody wants anymore.

The Party truly fell apart when McCain died, and now that Romney is retiring there are zero charismatic "normal" people left to speak for it. Mitch McConnell is still alive somehow, Lindsey Graham stands for whatever is popular that day, all the 2016 candidates made fools of themselves and there are so many they aren't worth mentioning, and the party now has young guys eager to become dictators like JD Vance, Josh Hawley, and Tom Cotton.

I also find it amusing that you mentioned Tim Scott being some sort of "rebrand". On the Senate's website, Rick Scott and Tim Scott are listed next to each other because alphabetical order. I'm curious if Rick has ever wondered how Tim ended up with the same last name as him.

 

[UKMikey]

I'm curious if Rick has ever wondered how Tim ended up with the same last name as him.

If you were to ask him, I think he'd end up pleading the fifth on that one.

 

[Keef]

Joe Manchin is freaking out.

 

[TheHun99]

In Utah we could do it online in about 30 seconds. I take it it's not the same way in PA?

I have to check that tbh, gonna see whether it's easy or not.