2024 US Presidential Election Thread

[Duke]

Yea or stay home. That was my point.

Do you really see her gender as a significant issue?

[edit] A significant issue among Democrat voters, I mean.

 

[Danoff]

Do you really see her gender as a significant issue?

I think gender may have played a role with reduced turnout. Is that significant? In the outcome.

Generally gender was heavily divided in this election. And Trump was basically elected for being an asshole strongman. Seems hard to say it's not significant.

 

[Biggles]

So, Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence. Can we expect to see a pact between Russia and Trump's America, leading to the invasion and partition of Poland, Finland and (of course) Ukraine?

 

[Dave A]

So, Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence. Can we expect to see a pact between Russia and Trump's America, leading to the invasion and partition of Poland, Finland and (of course) Ukraine?

Finland and Poland, categorically no chance Russia step foot in either of those without staring WW3.

 

[Savolainen83]

Finland and Poland, categorically no chance Russia step foot in either of those without staring WW3.

 

[Blitz24]

So what does Gaetz resigning from Congress do for his AG appointment?

 

[CTznOfTime]

Whether he gets the AG position or not, someone is pulling the strings to help Gaetz Avoid being convicted....

So what does Gaetz resigning from Congress do for his AG appointment?

Daddy trump protecting all the goons with brown orange noses.

 

[Imari]

He's going to install a loyalist, at least he can install an incompetent loyalist.

This is about the best that can be hoped for. Trump is in a position where if he had competent people in the roles around him and they all agreed on what they wanted to get done, they could achieve some truly terrifying things.

There's a good chance that they all trip over their own schlongers in greed though.

Finland and Poland, categorically no chance Russia step foot in either of those without staring WW3.

Right, but I don't think WW3 is off the cards here for anybody. There's a bunch of world leaders that seem almost eager to start WW3. And for some reason they all seem pretty buddy buddy with each other.

 

[Scaff]

This is about the best that can be hoped for. Trump is in a position where if he had competent people in the roles around him and they all agreed on what they wanted to get done, they could achieve some truly terrifying things.

There's a good chance that they all trip over their own schlongers in greed though.

I wish I could be so confident, this time around he has a lot of well-organised and well-funded people behind him (not in cabinet positions - they would never sully themselves with that) with very, very detailed plans of what they want done, and the agenda they want seems to be bubbling to the surface. All of which is formed well before Jan, back before (and well into) his first term the regime was an uncoordinated, directionless mess, this time is very, very different.

Trump's ego is the biggest blocker to that rather than cabinet incompetence (they can be replaced), and should Trump's mental incapacity finally, fully catch-up with him, we get Vance, and then we are all well and truly screwed.

 

[Meythia]

we get Vance, and then we are all well and truly screwed.

 

[Dave A]

Right, but I don't think WW3 is off the cards here for anybody. There's a bunch of world leaders that seem almost eager to start WW3. And for some reason they all seem pretty buddy buddy with each other.

I agree that WW3 is possible, but I don't see a scenario where the US teams up with Russia in opposition to NATO which was what would happen should the post I responded to come true.

 

[Scaff]

It's a shame Hunter S Thompson has passed away, he would have a field day with this.

 

[Kriptical]

Definitely feels as if we are on the star trek timeline. Maybe a couple years behind.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4990414-tommy-tuberville-warns-republicans-donald-trump-agenda/

Timmy has a message for the Republicans who want to vote against nominations.

 

[Blitz24]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4990414-tommy-tuberville-warns-republicans-donald-trump-agenda/

Timmy has a message for the Republicans who want to vote against nominations.

Swamp creature tries to defend himself in adding to the swamp.

 

[UKMikey]

Definitely feels as if we are on the star trek timeline. Maybe a couple years behind.

How did they end up fixing the environment problem? Was it because there were a lot fewer people around after the war or did friendly aliens come in and teach them how to fix everything?

 

[Danoff]

I'm not sure I'm opposed to Gaetz. Ok hold on, hear me out.

The reason we're in this mess is because people weren't paying attention. We're not going to get out of it until they are. That means that the Trump admin necessarily must be painful. It has to be painful enough that people need to wake up to the idea that there are more important things than cheeseburgers that cost $2 less. Until they can make that choice, there is no hope. So before anything gets better, it needs to get a whole lot worse. And a whole lot worse is Matt Gaetz.

Yes people are going to get hurt. Justice will not be done. Innocent people will suffer. That is baked in to our future.

 

[TheCracker]

So, Tulsi Gabbard as Director of National Intelligence. Can we expect to see a pact between Russia and Trump's America, leading to the invasion and partition of Poland, Finland and (of course) Ukraine?

I don't see a pact between Russia and Magamerica, not in any official capacity, but Trump could play hardball threatening to defund or pull out of NATO, as he has done in the past, until he gets his* way. America pulling out of NATO would essentially mean the end of NATO as we know it. Even if the other members quickly create a new alternative pact, it would create an oppotunity for Putin to further push his expansion plans during the chaos it would bring.

*his way meaning whatever Daddy Vlad wants him to do.

 

[McLaren]

I'm not sure I'm opposed to Gaetz. Ok hold on, hear me out.

The reason we're in this mess is because people weren't paying attention. We're not going to get out of it until they are. That means that the Trump admin necessarily must be painful. It has to be painful enough that people need to wake up to the idea that there are more important things than cheeseburgers that cost $2 less. Until they can make that choice, there is no hope. So before anything gets better, it needs to get a whole lot worse. And a whole lot worse is Matt Gaetz.

Yes people are going to get hurt. Justice will not be done. Innocent people will suffer. That is baked in to our future.

You might want to hang out in the LeopardsAteMyFace subreddit, then. Going to be the best area on Reddit for the next year or so.

 

[Danoff]

You might want to hang out in the LeopardsAteMyFace subreddit, then. Going to be the best area on Reddit for the next year or so.

Another point on the Gaetz thing...

Would I be sad for congress to have their time taken up impeaching and removing Gaetz when he breaks rampantly breaks the law and pisses off the public? No, that sounds exactly like the kind of thing a Trump congress should be working on. Everything and anything that distracts from actual legislation is good.

 

[MatskiMonk]

So before anything gets better, it needs to get a whole lot worse.

I've been thinking the same thing for a while...

I'm just wondering if perhaps it needs to get worse before it can get better.

The question is, how bad does it need to get. Your idea of bad in some respects, will be music to other peoples ears... I'd say it's probably only really the economy that is universal - you need that to bite everyone HARD - like undeniably hard... if Trump doesn't actually totally **** that up, things may get terrible to normal people with morals and ethics, but not be bad enough to change the minds of Trump voters.

 

[Danoff]

I've been thinking the same thing for a while...

The question is, how bad does it need to get. Your idea of bad in some respects, will be music to other peoples ears... I'd say it's probably only really the economy that is universal - you need that to bite everyone HARD - like undeniably hard... if Trump doesn't actually totally **** that up, things may get terrible to normal people with morals and ethics, but not be bad enough to change the minds of Trump voters.

Yea, I think you're right about the economy.

In terms of how bad does it need to get, the pandemic was barely bad enough. So lots of people dying and a devastated economy is like... the minimum it seems. I think that whatever camps get set up to house the deported people that we can't figure out where to send will generate some horrific human rights abuses. And that kind of thing could finally make it home to some people.

I wonder if their opinions ever get to matter though.